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The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in the pages of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.
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The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in on the pages shelves of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series are an extinct species). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus placoderms or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series are an extinct species). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own. But what about the animals? In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally. In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own.
But what about the animals? In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally.
In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once.A person can Even if two people were to enter the pocket dimension years apart (from our perspective in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to outside world) they might arrive on the exact same day. day from the perspective of someone living in Dinotopia. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur dinosaurs unknown in their time from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, people--people from their perspective--who future, that is--who arrived before they did.
But what about the animals? In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally.
In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own. But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally. In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own. But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally. In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own.
But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally.
In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally.
In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own. \n But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally. \n In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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** Should be said that the idea of the different species co-existing being anachronistic depends on the reader's worldview...it works quite well for those who hold young-earth/creationist beliefs.
[[WMG: Building off the above WMG, Dinotopia is literally "a land apart from time"]]
Let's look at what we know about Dinotopia. It appears to be fairly large for an island, but does not appear on maps. It contains prehistoric animals from every imaginable era, yet they have not evolved significantly from the way they appeared millions of years ago. This suggests that Dinotopia occupies a separate plane of reality from the rest of the world. As described in the previous WMG, it's possible that the Sunstones or the advanced technology of Posidos are responsible for hiding Dinotopia in a parallel dimension of its own.
But what about the animals? The In the first book alone, the 19th century protagonists mention names like ''Protoceratops'', ''Tyrannosaurus'', and ''Quetzalcoatlus'', none of which would have been known to science at the time. If Dinotopia were a location in the outside world that could be reached by anyone, this is a problem. The only way to reconcile this anachronism with the 19th century setting is if the first book's subtitle--"A Land Apart From Time"--is taken literally.
In other words, not only does Dinotopia occupy a pocket dimension separate from the outside world so it does not appear on maps, but time does not flow there the same way it does in the outside world. It exist in multiple different times at once. A person can enter in the year 1500, and another person can enter in the year 2000, but from someone observing within Dinotopia, both will appear to arrive on the same day. The protagonists probably learned the names of dinosaur from some 20th- or 21st-century arrivals--people from the future, from their perspective--who arrived before they did.
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* This seems to originally have come from the TV series, but still makes sense in the book context. Either this or the previous one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
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* This seems to originally have come from the TV series, but still makes sense in the book context. Either this or the previous one beats ones beat the FridgeHorror page though.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series don't seem to be any known species either). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series don't seem to be any known species either).are an extinct species). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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** Readers are explicitly told they're seeing only pieces of Posidos' technology. It could be that it was their work which created the pocket dimension in the first place. Don't have enough space to expand, or afraid of invaders? Build a separate dimension to hide out in.
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** Readers are explicitly told they're seeing only pieces of Posidos' technology. It could be that it was their work which they were the ones who created the pocket dimension in the first place. Don't have enough space to expand, or afraid of invaders? Build a separate dimension to hide out in.
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[[WMG: Posidos was originally founded by the first sapient species of dinosaurs]]
* One species of dinosaur achieved sapience themselves, and built an early metropolis. For whatever reason (possibly the [[PowerCrystal sunstones]]) their technological advancement skewed towards biology and genetics, not chemistry and engineering. Whichever species this first one was decided that sapience was something every species should share, and [[UpliftedAnimal uplifted the other species of dinosaurs into sapience]].
* These genetic engineers made other tweaks, both aesthetic to fit their culture's ideals of beauty (no feathers), communication (making sure everyone had the proper vocal organs to speak a common language), and psychology (minimal in-group out-group division/discrimination), but ultimately decided that they preferred cities that were part of the landscape like Waterfall City, leaving the original Posidos to live on the mainland. Millenia later, by the time humans came along, nobody could remember the uplifting or who performed it. While the sunstones were still there, the humans of Posidos learned to make sunstone-based technology and decided that they were "superior" because of their engineering and robotics/transportation technology, not realizing that the dinosaurs had found their own perfect way of living.
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** Or, somewhat similar to the pocket thing, the sunstones could be used for disguising the island's existence from the outside world. Either one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
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[[WMG: Or, somewhat similar to the pocket thing, the sunstones could be used for disguising the island's existence from the outside world.]]
* This seems to originally have come from the TV series, but still makes sense in the book context. Either this or the previous one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
[[WMG: Some of the dino differences are due to them being subspecies, rather than the same as their ancient ancestors.]]
* This would explain some of the species that seem to actually have feathers lacking them, and things like the Dimorphodons flying longer distances and the two-legged stance of the Skybaxes (who we already know are a fictional Quetzalcoatlus subspecies.) Adaptation would also explain the Skybaxes being able to carry a rider despite the actual creature's body probably not being able to support weight other than its own. It also may explain why the Skybaxes in ''First Flight'' looked so different from the later Skybaxes.
* This seems to originally have come from the TV series, but still makes sense in the book context. Either this or the previous one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
[[WMG: Some of the dino differences are due to them being subspecies, rather than the same as their ancient ancestors.]]
* This would explain some of the species that seem to actually have feathers lacking them, and things like the Dimorphodons flying longer distances and the two-legged stance of the Skybaxes (who we already know are a fictional Quetzalcoatlus subspecies.) Adaptation would also explain the Skybaxes being able to carry a rider despite the actual creature's body probably not being able to support weight other than its own. It also may explain why the Skybaxes in ''First Flight'' looked so different from the later Skybaxes.
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** Should be said that the idea of the different species co-existing being anachronistic depends on the reader's worldview...it works quite well for those who hold young-earth/creationist beliefs.
** Or, somewhat similar to the pocket thing, the sunstones could be used for disguising the island's existence from the outside world. Either one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
* Headcanon accepted!
** Or, somewhat similar to the pocket thing, the sunstones could be used for disguising the island's existence from the outside world. Either one beats the FridgeHorror page though.
* Headcanon accepted!
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series don't seem to be any known species either). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world (and the dolphins featured in the series don't seem to be any known species either). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.neighbors.
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* Headcanon accepted!
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world. Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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* And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world.world (and the dolphins featured in the series don't seem to be any known species either). Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in the pages of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.
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The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in the pages of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.space.
*And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world. Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
*And there's more. No one has ever arrived there without a huge storm destroying their ship, yet no eternal storm is visible from shore, and our satellites don't see it either. Possibly storms open the gate there? The sea life doesn't intermix, there are no schools of present-day fish in Dinotopian waters and no trilobites, dunkleosteus or marine reptiles in the outside world. Dinotopian astronomers ought to be able to see satellites and space stations (you will totally see these eventually if your spend your life looking at the stars), but they don't seem to in modern-day Dinotopia stories. Not to mention that the mixture of prehistoric species is (in the world at large) totally anachronistic, with species that went extinct tens of millions of years before their neighbors evolved ''having'' those neighbors.
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[[WMG: Dinotopia is actually in a pocket dimension of its own.]]
The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in the pages of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.
The maps in the book reveal the island to be at least several hundred miles across. Something that big would surely be easily seen from space using satellite imagery by now (surely even at the time the first book was created)... but all we have as evidence of its existence is a forgotten, weather-beaten old journal lost in the pages of a library? Surely this must imply it occupies a space connected to, but not quite part of, the space occupying the surface of Earth, such that it cannot be seen from space.
