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*ReferencedBy: The anime ''Anime/HelloSandybell''. The Shearers cars registration number is FAB 1, the same as Lady Penelope's car.
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** It's now believed that Cobby was actually referring to having recorded the countdown for a Thunderbirds alarm clock released in 1992. It can be heard on YouTube and it's certainly not the original Peter Dyneley recording.

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** It's now believed that Cobby was actually referring to having recorded the countdown for a Thunderbirds alarm clock released in 1992. It can be heard on YouTube Website/YouTube and it's certainly not the original Peter Dyneley recording.
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*** It wasn't "resolved", as that suggests that Anderson was finally allowed to make the new series - he wasn't involved in any way, and indeed production didn't begin until the year after he had died. ITV had been planning on a remake of Thunderbirds for some time, they just didn't see Gerry Anderson as needing to be part of the equation.

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* CreatorKiller: Screenwriter William Osborne's film career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.

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** Creator/JonathanFrakes' career took a huge hit with this film's box-office failure and it took him a few years before he could start working regularly again as a TV director.
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Screenwriter William Osborne's film career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.



* StarDerailingRole:
** Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche working in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'' and several other films, and saw success as a director with ''The Childhood of a Leader'' and ''Vox Lux''. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.
** Creator/JonathanFrakes' career took a huge hit with this film's box-office failure and it took him a few years before he could start working regularly again as a TV director.

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StarDerailingRole: Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche working in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'' and several other films, and saw success as a director with ''The Childhood of a Leader'' and ''Vox Lux''. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.
** Creator/JonathanFrakes' career took a huge hit with this film's box-office failure and it took him a few years before he could start working regularly again as a TV director.
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* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/JonathanFrakes was excited at the prospect of moving to London, working at the legendary Pinewood Studios, and directing heavyweights like Creator/BenKingsley and Creator/BillPaxton.



* CreatorBacklash: While he's proud of the final product, Creator/JonathanFrakes has spoken out about how Universal's decision to pit the film against tentpoles like ''Shrek'' and ''Spider-Man'' destroyed its chances. Frakes has also said that Brady Corbet was miscast as the lead while still praising Corbet's skill as an actor.



* CreatorKiller:
** Screenwriter William Osborne's film career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.
** Creator/JonathanFrakes hasn't directed another feature film, and has since focused on acting and TV directing.

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CreatorKiller: Screenwriter William Osborne's film career has never recovered from being credited on this '''and''' ''Film/FatSlags'' in the same year.
** Creator/JonathanFrakes hasn't directed another feature film, and has since focused on acting and TV directing.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The film was meant to come out in the spring as a fun family film to lead into the summer. However, Universal thought they had a blockbuster on their hands and moved it to a summer release against juggernauts like ''Shrek'' and ''Spider-Man''. Stiff competition and poor reviews led to box-office failure and damaged careers all around.



* StarDerailingRole: Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche working in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'' and several other films, and saw success as a director with ''The Childhood of a Leader'' and ''Vox Lux''. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.

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Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche working in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'' and several other films, and saw success as a director with ''The Childhood of a Leader'' and ''Vox Lux''. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.reception.
** Creator/JonathanFrakes' career took a huge hit with this film's box-office failure and it took him a few years before he could start working regularly again as a TV director.

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*** It wasn't "resolved", as that suggests that Anderson was finally allowed to make the new series - he wasn't involved in any way, and indeed it didn't happen until the year after he had died. ITV had been planning on a remake of Thunderbirds for some time, they just didn't see Gerry Anderson as needing to be part of the equation.

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*** It wasn't "resolved", as that suggests that Anderson was finally allowed to make the new series - he wasn't involved in any way, and indeed it production didn't happen begin until the year after he had died. ITV had been planning on a remake of Thunderbirds for some time, they just didn't see Gerry Anderson as needing to be part of the equation.



** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases retain their 4:3 versions.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. The ITV subsequently chose to use the 16:9 versions for the UK Blu-ray release, but the North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases retain their releases, along with the Japanese and German ones, use the 4:3 versions.versions with original mono soundtracks. While the 16:9 versions inevitably lose picture information from the top and bottom of the frame, by being true close-up optical scans of the 35mm prints they do provide a closer look at the details of puppets, sets and props.
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*** It wasn't "resolved", as that suggests that Anderson was finally allowed to make the new series - he wasn't involved in any way, and indeed it didn't happen until the year after he had died. ITV had been planning on a remake of Thunderbirds for some time, they just didn't see Gerry Anderson as needing to be part of the equation.
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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases retain their 4:3 version.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases retain their 4:3 version.versions.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. In a bizarre attempt to sell the series in widescreen, ITV cut off the top and bottom of the fullscreen prints. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases [[BetterExportForYou do not do this]].
*** This was not a "bizarre attempt", it was accepted business sense. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. ITV also did this for UFO and Space:1999, but in the latter two cases, the 4:3 versions were the ones used for the UK Blu-ray releases.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. In a bizarre attempt to sell the series in widescreen, ITV cut off the top and bottom of the fullscreen prints. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases [[BetterExportForYou do not do this]].\n*** This was not a "bizarre attempt", it was accepted business sense. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. ITV also did this for UFO and Space:1999, but in the latter two cases, the The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases retain their 4:3 versions were the ones used for the UK Blu-ray releases. version.
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*** This was not a "bizarre attempt", it was accepted business sense. When ITV was having the HD masters created from the original 35mm film prints, it deliberately created both 4:3 and 16:9 versions, as it is easier to sell HD archive programming to other broadcasters if it is 16:9. ITV also did this for UFO and Space:1999, but in the latter two cases, the 4:3 versions were the ones used for the UK Blu-ray releases.
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* TheWikiRule: [[http://thunderbirds.wikia.com/wiki/Thunderbirds_Wiki The Thunderbirds Wiki]].
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* ActingForTwo: David Graham voices Gordon, Brains, Parker and Kyrano.

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* ActingForTwo: David Graham voices Gordon, Brains, Parker and Kyrano. Ray Barrett voices John, The Hood, and the Duchess of Royston.
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* CrossDressingVoices: All the young boys were voiced by Sylvia Anderson and Christine Finn, while Ray Barrett voiced the Duchess of Royston.

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* CrossDressingVoices: All the young boys were voiced by Sylvia Anderson and Christine Finn, while Ray Barrett Creator/RayBarrett voiced the Duchess of Royston.
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** It's now believed that Cobby recorded the countdown for a Thunderbirds alarm clock released in 1992. It can be heard on YouTube and it's certainly not the original Peter Dyneley recording.

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** It's now believed that Cobby was actually referring to having recorded the countdown for a Thunderbirds alarm clock released in 1992. It can be heard on YouTube and it's certainly not the original Peter Dyneley recording.
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** It's now believed that Cobby recorded the countdown for a Thunderbirds alarm clock released in 1992. It can be heard on YouTube and it's certainly not the original Peter Dyneley recording.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. In a bizarre attempt to sell the series in widescreen, ITV cut off the top and bottom of the fullscreen prints. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases do not do this.

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** Even the Blu-Ray releases weren't immune to pruning. In a bizarre attempt to sell the series in widescreen, ITV cut off the top and bottom of the fullscreen prints. The North American Creator/ShoutFactory releases [[BetterExportForYou do not do this.this]].
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* CharacterCelebrityEndorsement: Not just back in the series's heyday in the 60s, but even in much later decades, demonstrating the show's staying power in UK pop culture:
** Lady Penelope appeared in a rather sexist ad for Swinton car insurance, in which she was shown as utterly incapable of driving FAB 1 on Parker's day off.
** Not as sexist, but even weirder, a DVLA ad in which Parker fails to pay FAB 1's road tax, and Lady P reacts by cutting his strings.
** A Kit Kat advert which shows the classic title sequence, until the narrator says "Thunderbirds are go!" and, to his irritation, Thunderbird 1 fails to take off because Scott is having a break.
** Brains body-popping to "Rhythm is a Dancer" in an ad for Drench bottled water, with the drink (and modern video effects) making him far more mobile than he'd ever been in the show. (Tagline: "Brains perform better when they're hydrated.")
** One Specsavers ad for reaction lenses saw Virgil and the Hood involved in a jet-pack chase through some underground tunnels. When they emerged into the sunlight, Virgil's visor went dark while the Hood was dazzled, causing him to crash in a fiery explosion worthy of the series.
** Lyons Maid's ice lollies had a major Creator/GerryAnderson deal in the sixties. In addition to Lady Penelope advertising the Fab, their other "space age" lollies were tied to other Supermarionation programmes: Zoom was ''Series/FireballXL5'', Sea Jet (and Super Sea Jet) were ''Series/Stingray1964'' and Orbit was ''Series/CaptainScarletAndTheMysterons''.
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* StarDerailingRole: Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'', and several other films. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.

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* StarDerailingRole: Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche working in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'' and several other films.films, and saw success as a director with ''The Childhood of a Leader'' and ''Vox Lux''. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.
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* NamesTheSame: Tin Tin shares a name with [[Comicbook/TinTin a certain Belgian reporter,]] which is the [[ScrewedByTheLawyers chief reason]] her name was changed to Tanusha "Kayo" Kyrano in the remake.
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** The Tracys are played by Masayuki Sakamoto (Jeff), Hiroshi Nagano (John), Yoshihiko Inohara (Scott), Go Morita (Virgil), Ken Miyake (Gordon) and Junichi Okada (Alan). All of them are members of the boy band Music/{{V6}}.

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** The Tracys are played by Music/{{V6}} members Masayuki Sakamoto (Jeff), Hiroshi Nagano (John), Yoshihiko Inohara (Scott), Go Morita (Virgil), Ken Miyake (Gordon) and Junichi Okada (Alan). All of them are members of the boy band Music/{{V6}}.(Alan).
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* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Creator/GerryAnderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the Creator/ITCEntertainment library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Creator/JonathanFrakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of the death of a rigger who fell while dismantling a set, and a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.

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* TroubledProduction: Had been in DevelopmentHell since the mid 90s. It was originally conceived as a CGI film, inspired by the success of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'' ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory1'' and then later as a vehicle for the Baldwin brothers (with Creator/SeanConnery as Jeff). Creator/GerryAnderson was brought on as a creative consultant but let go when Working Title felt that they had enough people on the creative team already. Eventually it entered production with a much younger target audience in mind. Three major script changes also happened during production; not helping was the film "falling through the cracks" when Seagram (the liquor company) acquired Creator/PolygramFilmedEntertainment (who had started the project during their ownership of the Creator/ITCEntertainment library) and merged it with Creator/{{Universal}}. Creator/JonathanFrakes did manage to knock $3 million off the budget due to his fast shooting style, but that seems to open up another can of worms altogether; outside of the death of a rigger who fell while dismantling a set, and a few cast members getting heatstroke, the filming itself went smoothly.
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** An idea for the climax was to have the Mole as piloted by The Hood sever one of the supports of the London Eye and one of its passenger pods would fall in. However, the people who ran it said no, on account of it being a potential terrorist target, and hence was changed to the "[[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Olympic Monorail]]". Another one was that ''Thunderbird 2'' would have swept through other parts of London, including near the Houses of Parliament and also past the Mayor’s building, blowing all of its windows out. This was also dropped for security reasons.

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** An idea for the climax was to have the Mole as piloted by The Hood sever one of the supports of the London Eye and one of its passenger pods would fall in. However, the people who ran it said no, on account of it being a potential terrorist target, and hence was changed to the "[[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Olympic Monorail]]". Another one was that ''Thunderbird 2'' would have swept through other parts of London, including near the Houses of Parliament and also past the Mayor’s building, blowing all of its windows out. This was also dropped for security reasons.reasons, although some trailers do feature a clip of Thunderbird 2 flying around Parliament Square.
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* ActingForTwo: David Graham voices Gordon, Brains, Parker and Kyrano.



* TalkingToYourself: David Graham voices Gordon, Brains, Parker and Kyrano.
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* StarDerailingRole: For Creator/SophiaMyles.

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* StarDerailingRole: For Creator/SophiaMyles.Creator/BradyCorbet and Creator/SophiaMyles both saw their careers plummet after this film bombed. Corbet never starred in another major blockbuster again, although he eventually found a comfortable niche in independent cinema with ''Film/MysteriousSkin'', ''Film/MarthaMarcyMayMarlene'', ''Film/{{Melancholia}}'', and several other films. Myles, on the other hand, suffered another flop with ''Film/TristanAndIsolde'', while transitioning toward television didn't work either when ''Series/{{Moonlight}}'' got a mixed reception.

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