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** American Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, British Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, American Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland. Though Quinn could be considered a subversion as his parents are both from Ireland, making him a dual citizen, and he spent parts of his childhood in Dublin and Offaly.

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** American Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, British Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, American Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland. Though Quinn could be considered a subversion as although he was born and raised in Chicago, his parents are both from Ireland, making him a dual citizen, and he spent parts of his childhood in Dublin and Offaly.
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* ProductionPosse: Neil Jordan regular Creator/StephenRea - who he worked with in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'', ''Film/TheCryingGame'', and ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' - plays Ned Broy.

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* ProductionPosse: Neil Jordan regular Creator/StephenRea - who he worked with in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'', ''Film/TheCryingGame'', and ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' - plays Ned Broy. Creator/IanHart plays Joe O'Reilly, the first of many collaborations with Neil Jordan (The Butcher Boy, The End of The Affair, Breakfast on Pluto).
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** Creator/MichaelCimino was attached to direct the film for a while, and Creator/GabrielByrne was his choice for the lead.

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** Creator/MichaelCimino Creator/{{Michael Cimino|Director}} was attached to direct the film for a while, and Creator/GabrielByrne was his choice for the lead.
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* SameContentDifferentRating: Due to the film's historial significance, the Irish film board gave the film a PG rating despite its violet content. The video release was given a 12 rating (the UK/Irish equivalent to PG-13).

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* SameContentDifferentRating: Due to the film's historial historical significance, the Irish film board gave the film a PG rating despite its violet violent content. The video release was given a 12 rating (the UK/Irish equivalent to PG-13).
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** Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland. Though Quinn could be considered a subversion as his parents are from Ireland, making him a dual citizen, and he spent parts of his childhood in Dublin and Offaly.

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** American Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, British Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, American Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland. Though Quinn could be considered a subversion as his parents are both from Ireland, making him a dual citizen, and he spent parts of his childhood in Dublin and Offaly.
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* SameContentDifferentRating: Due to the film's historial significance, the Irish film board gave the film a PG rating despite its violet content. The video release was given a 12 rating (the UK/Irish equivalent to PG-13).
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** Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland.

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** Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland. Though Quinn could be considered a subversion as his parents are from Ireland, making him a dual citizen, and he spent parts of his childhood in Dublin and Offaly.

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* CoolCar: Collins' official state car had been a yellow Leyland Eight. Out of which just 18 were made and none survived in original form, only one is still extant, assembled from spares in 1929 with a short chassis and roadster bodywork. So the car got played in the film by another gem from TheRoaringTwenties, a Lanchester 40.
* DawsonCasting: Liam Neeson was in his forties playing Michael Collins from his late twenties to early thirties.

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* CoolCar: Collins' official state car had been a yellow Leyland Eight. Out of which just 18 were made and none survived in original form, only one is still extant, assembled from spares in 1929 with a short chassis and roadster bodywork. So the car got played in the film by another gem from TheRoaringTwenties, a Lanchester 40.
* DawsonCasting: Liam Neeson Creator/LiamNeeson was in his forties playing Michael Collins from his late twenties to early thirties.



** Julia Roberts as Kitty Kiernan, Ian Hart as Joe O'Reilly, Aidan Quinn as Harry Boland.
** Alan Rickman as Éamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New York City. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.
** Liam Neeson is also Northern Irish, playing the Cork native Michael Collins.
* ProductionPosse: Neil Jordan regular Stephen Rea - who he worked with in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'', ''Film/TheCryingGame'', and ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' - plays Ned Broy.

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** Julia Roberts Creator/JuliaRoberts as Kitty Kiernan, Ian Hart Creator/IanHart as Joe O'Reilly, Aidan Quinn Creator/AidanQuinn as Harry Boland.
** Alan Rickman Creator/AlanRickman as Éamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New York City. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.
** Liam Neeson Creator/LiamNeeson is also Northern Irish, playing the Cork native Michael Collins.
* ProductionPosse: Neil Jordan regular Stephen Rea Creator/StephenRea - who he worked with in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'', ''Film/TheCryingGame'', and ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' - plays Ned Broy.



* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: The film had been tossed around since TheSixties, with Creator/RichardHarris expressing interest in playing Michael Collins in a biopic. Creator/RobertRedford was also briefly inspired to do the film in TheEighties and went to Dublin to research for it. Creator/KevinCostner had likewise been interested.



** Michael Cimino was attached to direct the film for a while, and Gabriel Byrne was his choice for the lead.
** Mary Louise Parker was on the verge of signing on to play Kitty when Neil Jordan heard that Julia Roberts was interested in the role.
** The film had been tossed around since the 60s, with Richard Harris expressing interest in playing Michael Collins in a biopic. Robert Redford was also briefly inspired to do the film in the 80s and went to Dublin to research for it. Kevin Costner had likewise been interested.
** The film was going to be released with a 15 rating in Ireland. But the censors decided to release it with a PG, despite the violence, for its historical significance.

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** Michael Cimino Creator/MichaelCimino was attached to direct the film for a while, and Gabriel Byrne Creator/GabrielByrne was his choice for the lead.
** Mary Louise Parker Creator/MaryLouiseParker was on the verge of signing on to play Kitty when Neil Jordan heard that Julia Roberts Creator/JuliaRoberts was interested in the role.
** The film had been tossed around since the 60s, with Richard Harris expressing interest in playing Michael Collins in a biopic. Robert Redford was also briefly inspired to do the film in the 80s and went to Dublin to research for it. Kevin Costner had likewise been interested.
** The film was going to be released with a 15 rating in Ireland. But the censors decided to release it with a PG, despite the violence, for its historical significance.significance.
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** Alan Rickman as Eamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New York City. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.

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** Alan Rickman as Eamon Éamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New York City. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.

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* DistancedFromCurrentEvents: During filming, the IRA ceasefire ended when a bomb was exploded in London's Canary Wharf. As a result, the ending was re-shot to focus more on the love story between Michael Collins and Kitty Kiernan - and downplay the breakdown of Anglo-Irish Treaty negotiations.



* TooSoon: During filming, the IRA ceasefire ended when a bomb was exploded in London's Canary Wharf. As a result, the ending was re-shot to focus more on the love story between Michael Collins and Kitty Kiernan - and downplay the breakdown of Anglo-Irish Treaty negotiations.
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** Alan Rickman as Eamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New Jersey. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.

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** Alan Rickman as Eamon De Valera is a curious case. He was half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New Jersey.York City. WordOfGod even said that the character was better played by a non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.
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* CoolCar: Collins' official state car had been a yellow Leyland Eight. Out of which just 18 were made and none survived in original form, only one is still extant, assembled from spares in 1929 with a short chassis and roadster bodywork. So the car got played in the film by another gem from TheRoaringTwenties, a Lanchester 40.
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* CastingGag: Brendan Gleeson plays Liam Tobin. He had played Michael Collins himself in a film called ''The Treaty''.
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Factual error: Collins had no children; O'Malley was his great-grandnephew, not his great grandson.


* RealLifeRelative: Aengus O'Malley, great-grandson of the real Michael Collins, plays a student in the scene at Marsh library.

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* RealLifeRelative: Aengus O'Malley, great-grandson great-grandnephew of the real Michael Collins, plays a student in the scene at Marsh library.

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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman, Ian Hart and Julia Roberts. Aidan Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.
** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it was necessary that he be played by a non-Irishman who lacked such preconceptions and would be able to play the role as a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev was also so ethnically diverse (a Spanish Cuban father, born in New York City) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view. And it certainly didn't hurt that Rickman was an astonishingly close likeness for de Valera, too.

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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman, CastingGag: Brendan Gleeson plays Liam Tobin. He had played Michael Collins himself in a film called ''The Treaty''.
* DawsonCasting: Liam Neeson was in his forties playing Michael Collins from his late twenties to early thirties.
* FakeIrish:
** Julia Roberts as Kitty Kiernan,
Ian Hart and Julia Roberts. as Joe O'Reilly, Aidan Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.
as Harry Boland.
** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Alan Rickman as Eamon De Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it is a curious case. He was necessary half-Irish, half-Spanish and born in New Jersey. WordOfGod even said that he be the character was better played by a non-Irishman non-Irish actor to get a more rounded performance.
** Liam Neeson is also Northern Irish, playing the Cork native Michael Collins.
* ProductionPosse: Neil Jordan regular Stephen Rea -
who lacked such preconceptions he worked with in ''Film/TheCompanyOfWolves'', ''Film/TheCryingGame'', and would be able ''Film/InterviewWithTheVampire'' - plays Ned Broy.
* RealLifeRelative: Aengus O'Malley, great-grandson of the real Michael Collins, plays a student in the scene at Marsh library.
* TooSoon: During filming, the IRA ceasefire ended when a bomb was exploded in London's Canary Wharf. As a result, the ending was re-shot to focus more on the love story between Michael Collins and Kitty Kiernan - and downplay the breakdown of Anglo-Irish Treaty negotiations.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Michael Cimino was attached to direct the film for a while, and Gabriel Byrne was his choice for the lead.
** Mary Louise Parker was on the verge of signing on
to play Kitty when Neil Jordan heard that Julia Roberts was interested in the role as role.
** The film had been tossed around since the 60s, with Richard Harris expressing interest in playing Michael Collins in
a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev biopic. Robert Redford was also so ethnically diverse (a Spanish Cuban father, born briefly inspired to do the film in New York City) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view. And it certainly didn't hurt that Rickman the 80s and went to Dublin to research for it. Kevin Costner had likewise been interested.
** The film
was an astonishingly close likeness going to be released with a 15 rating in Ireland. But the censors decided to release it with a PG, despite the violence, for de Valera, too.its historical significance.

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** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it was necessary that he be played by a non-Irishman who lacked such preconceptions and would be able to play the role as a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev was also so ethnically diverse (a Spanish Cuban father, born in New York City) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view.
** Rickman also bears an astonishing likeness to de Valera, which helps.

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** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it was necessary that he be played by a non-Irishman who lacked such preconceptions and would be able to play the role as a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev was also so ethnically diverse (a Spanish Cuban father, born in New York City) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view.
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view. And it certainly didn't hurt that Rickman also bears was an astonishing astonishingly close likeness to for de Valera, which helps.too.
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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman and Julia Roberts. Aidan Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.

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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman Rickman, Ian Hart and Julia Roberts. Aidan Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.
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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman and Julia Roberts. Aiden Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.

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* FakeIrish - Alan Rickman and Julia Roberts. Aiden Aidan Quinn also had to Irish it up a bit due to having a far more Americanised accent.
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** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it was necessary that he be played by a non-Irishman who lacked such preconceptions and would be able to play the role as a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev was also so ethnically diverse (Cuban blood, born in New York) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view.

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** Justified, in Rickman's case- the director felt that, so deeply ingrained is the popular image of Éamon de Valera in the Irish national consciousness, it was necessary that he be played by a non-Irishman who lacked such preconceptions and would be able to play the role as a three-dimensional character, rather than a two-dimensional caricature. Dev was also so ethnically diverse (Cuban blood, (a Spanish Cuban father, born in New York) York City) that his Irishness isn't really important from a casting point of view.

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