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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Time Masters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Time Masters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: At the end of the episode episode, Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 2016, Mick's training at the hands of the Time Masters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition addition, Mick spares Snart and stays with the team team, not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Time Masters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.



* BadFuture: For starters, corporations now double as federal governments - ''even'' in Central City. And outside of Kasnia, the whole world is an overpopulated, poverty-ridden mess, with repeated mention of food riots. (And the only reason Kasnia is stable is because it's a PoliceState)

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* BadFuture: For starters, corporations now double as federal governments - ''even'' in Central City. And outside of Kasnia, the whole world is an overpopulated, poverty-ridden mess, with repeated mention of food riots. (And the only reason Kasnia is stable is because it's a PoliceState)PoliceState.)



* BilingualBonus: Intentionally or not, Kasnia sounds similar to "kaźnia", old polish word for execution.

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* BilingualBonus: Intentionally or not, Kasnia sounds similar to "kaźnia", an old polish Polish word for execution.



* ContinuityNod: Gideon mentions a dream Sara had about [[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS1E8NightOfTheHawk a nurse]].

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* ContinuityNod: Gideon mentions a sexual dream Sara had about [[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS1E8NightOfTheHawk a nurse]].



* DownerEnding: The Legends failed to prevent Savage from using Per Degaton to advance his own power. If anything, they made matters ''worse'', as Savage manipulates Degaton into murdering his father, then uses his new influence over the Kasnian Conglomerate to unleash a deadly virus that devastates the world's population five years earlier than it had before the timeline changed. Besides which, the teams efforts to forestall Savage's rise to power didn't do a thing to change the timeline. On top of all that, with Mick having failed to capture the team, the Time Masters have dispatched an even deadlier group of assassins whose mission is explicitly to kill them.

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* DownerEnding: The Legends failed to prevent Savage from using Per Degaton to advance his own power. If anything, they made matters ''worse'', as Savage manipulates Degaton into murdering his father, then uses his new influence over the Kasnian Conglomerate to unleash a deadly virus that devastates the world's population five years earlier than it had before the timeline changed. Besides which, the teams team's efforts to forestall Savage's rise to power didn't do a thing to change the timeline. On top of all that, with Mick having failed to capture the team, the Time Masters have dispatched an even deadlier group of assassins whose mission is explicitly to kill them.



* HardTruthAesop: Ultimately not killing Per Degaton proves to be more harmful; the Armageddon virus is released and most of the world is wiped out, which could have been avoided had they killed him.

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* HardTruthAesop: Ultimately Ultimately, not killing Per Degaton proves to be more harmful; the Armageddon virus is released and most of the world is wiped out, which could have been avoided had they killed him.



* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: Most of the team is ''deeply'' uncomfortable with killing an innocent child even if he's destined to be a dictator. However Per Degaton isn't that innocent thanks to Savage's teaching, he's like something out of a Nazi Youth Camp.

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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: Most of the team is ''deeply'' uncomfortable with killing an innocent child even if he's destined to be a dictator. However However, Per Degaton [[TeensAreMonsters isn't that innocent innocent]] thanks to Savage's teaching, he's teaching--he's like something out of a Nazi Youth Camp.



* ItsAllMyFault: Rip tries to get through to Mick by saying that he's responsible for bringing Mick along, and he shouldn't have any quarrel with Snart. Mick replies that he's just gonna kill both of them anyway.

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* ItsAllMyFault: Rip tries to get through to Mick by saying that he's responsible for bringing Mick him along, and he Mick shouldn't have any quarrel with Snart. Mick replies that he's just gonna kill both of them anyway.



* ShaggyDogStory: The team goes to 2147 to make sure Per Degaton doesn't help Vandal Savage's rise to power...unfortunately all they do is cement it.

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* ShaggyDogStory: The team goes to 2147 to make sure Per Degaton doesn't help Vandal Savage's rise to power...unfortunately unfortunately, all they do is cement it.



--> '''Ray:''' He allowed my tech to be perverted by the defense industry. That is so Sidney.

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--> '''Ray:''' He allowed my tech to be perverted by the defense industry. industry! That is so ''so'' Sidney.



* UnreliableNarrator: Rip tells the Team that 2147 was considered the pinnacle of human civilization. Yet later we learn that outside of Kasnia there are huge problems with famine and overpopulation, and that corporations are running most of the planet.

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* UnreliableNarrator: Rip tells the Team that 2147 was considered the pinnacle of human civilization. Yet later later, we learn that outside of Kasnia there are huge problems with famine and overpopulation, and that corporations are running most of the planet.



* YouWouldntShootMe: Per Degaton tells this to Rip at gun's point because Savage taught him to recognize a killer. He's right and Rip decides to spare him.

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* YouWouldntShootMe: Per Degaton tells this to Rip at gun's point gunpoint because Savage taught him to recognize a killer. He's right and Rip decides to spare him.

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** Additionally though, the title could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.



* TrailersAlwaysSpoil:
** A few weeks before the episode aired, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (his father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.
** Additionally though, the title could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.

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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil:
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TrailersAlwaysSpoil: A few weeks before the episode aired, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (his father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.
** Additionally though, the title could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.
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* BelatedBackstory: We got to see the time during Kendra and Carter's incarnations as Prof. Boardman's parents, many episodes after the latter two's deaths.

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Time Masters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Time Masters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.



* RealityEnsues:
** Rip's act of mercy, while affecting, doesn't do a thing to break Savage's influence over Per Degaton. As soon as they're alone together again, Savage manipulates Degaton into carrying out his will.
** At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Time Masters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Time Masters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.
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* SiblingRivalry: Turns out Ray has an identical twin named Sidney, and they don't get along.

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* SiblingRivalry: Turns out Ray has an identical twin a brother named Sidney, and they don't get along.



* WeirdnessCensor: Rachel Turner is only mildly bemused that Ray looks ''exactly'' like a bust of the founder of her company.

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* WeirdnessCensor: Rachel Turner Dr. Bryce is only mildly bemused that Ray looks ''exactly'' like a bust of the founder of her company.
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** A few before the episode aired, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (his father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.

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** A few weeks before the episode aired, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (his father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.
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** A few weeks ago, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (His father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.

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** A few weeks ago, before the episode aired, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (His (his father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of father hires Vandal Savage S a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of father hires Vandal Savage S as a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.
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* SadlyMythTaken: Invoked; Savage presents the story of Oedipus to Per Degaton as a young prince triumphing over his father and taking his throne, omitting the various subtle details that caused this chain of events in the original myth.

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad hires Vandal Savage be a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad father hires Vandal Savage be S a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.



* TheManBehindTheMan: Savage to Per Degaton, at least until Savage decides to step up to the front.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: Savage to Per Degaton, both father and son Degatons, at least until Savage decides to step up to the front.



* RealityEnsues: Rip's act of mercy, while affecting, doesn't do a thing to break Savage's influence over Per Degaton. As soon as they're alone together again, Savage manipulates Degaton into carrying out his will.
** At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Timemasters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Timemasters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.

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* RealityEnsues: RealityEnsues:
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Rip's act of mercy, while affecting, doesn't do a thing to break Savage's influence over Per Degaton. As soon as they're alone together again, Savage manipulates Degaton into carrying out his will.
** At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Timemasters Time Masters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Timemasters Time Masters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.



* TheReveal: Mick reveals that since he failed to bring in the team, the Time Masters have sent the Hunters -- time-traveling robots to erase the team from history.



* SelfMadeOrphan: Young Per Degaton killed his own father under Savage's suggestion.
* ShaggyDogStory: The team goes to 2147 to make sure Per Degaton doesn't help Vandal Savage's rise to power... unfortunately all they do is cement it.

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* SelfMadeOrphan: Young Per Degaton killed kills his own father under Savage's suggestion.
* ShaggyDogStory: The team goes to 2147 to make sure Per Degaton doesn't help Vandal Savage's rise to power... unfortunately all they do is cement it.



* TheReveal: Mick reveals that since he failed to bring in the team, the Time Masters will have sent the Hunters - time traveling robots to erase the team from history.



* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: A few weeks ago, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (His father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.

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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: TrailersAlwaysSpoil:
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A few weeks ago, the trailer for the second half of this season showed Per Degaton preparing to kill someone in their sleep (His father). This scene does not happen until the end of the episode, meaning that whilst watching, it was easy to guess [[ShaggyDogStory the result of]] [[NiceJobBreakingItHero the team's attempt to prevent the]] BadFuture.
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* BadFuture: For starters, corporations now double as federal governments - ''even'' in Central City. And outside of Kasnia, the whole world is an overpopulated, poverty ridden mess, with repeated mention of food riots. (And the only reason Kasnia is stable is because it's a PoliceState)
* TheBadGuyWins: At the end of the episode, everything works out in Savage's favour; he has control of the Kasnian Conglomerate and the Armageddon virus to aid his plans, he's well-positioned to rid himself of Per Degaton when he's outlived his usefulness, and he has a base of operations for his future campaign of world domination.

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* BadFuture: For starters, corporations now double as federal governments - ''even'' in Central City. And outside of Kasnia, the whole world is an overpopulated, poverty ridden poverty-ridden mess, with repeated mention of food riots. (And the only reason Kasnia is stable is because it's a PoliceState)
* TheBadGuyWins: At the end of the episode, everything works out in Savage's favour; favor; he has control of the Kasnian Conglomerate and the Armageddon virus to aid his plans, he's well-positioned to rid himself of Per Degaton when he's outlived his usefulness, and he has a base of operations for his future campaign of world domination.



* BreatherEpisode: In the Series/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes. That being said, [[DownerEnding the]] [[TheBadGuyWins ending]] isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.
* TheBusCameBack: Carter and Prof. Boardman both return in flashback scenes.

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* BreatherEpisode: In for the Series/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes. That being said, [[DownerEnding the]] [[TheBadGuyWins ending]] isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.
* TheBusCameBack: Carter and Prof. Boardman both return in flashback scenes.flashbacks.



* TheDreaded: The Hunters, which the Time Masters will now sent upon the Legends, are so terrifying that the only advice Mick is able to give the team is to ''run''.

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* TheDreaded: The Hunters, which the Time Masters will now sent send upon the Legends, are so terrifying that the only advice Mick is able to give the team is to ''run''.



** Tor Degaton, although he's the head of an oppressive PoliceState, flat out refuses Savage's suggestion of "[[TheSocialDarwinist culling the herd]]" (with the "herd" being the overpopulated outside world). This gets him assassinated by his own son.

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** Tor Degaton, although he's the head of an oppressive PoliceState, flat out flat-out refuses Savage's suggestion of "[[TheSocialDarwinist culling the herd]]" (with the "herd" being the overpopulated outside world). This gets him assassinated by his own son.



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad has Vandal Savage be a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad has hires Vandal Savage be a personal tutor for his son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.

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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Ultimately not killing Per Degaton proves to be more harmful; the Armageddon virus is released and most of the world is wiped out, which could have been avoided had they killed him.


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* HardTruthAesop: Ultimately not killing Per Degaton proves to be more harmful; the Armageddon virus is released and most of the world is wiped out, which could have been avoided had they killed him.
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* BreatherEpisode: In the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes. That being said, [[DownerEnding the]] [[TheBadGuyWins ending]] isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.

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* BreatherEpisode: In the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} Series/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes. That being said, [[DownerEnding the]] [[TheBadGuyWins ending]] isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.



* DemotedToExtra: In the first two episodes, Creator/FalkHentschel's name was part of the main credits. Here, he's only billed in the guest star lineup, not with the [[AndStarring "Special Guest"]] citation like the guesting former cast members of the other Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} shows. Possibly justified since Carter only appeared in flashbacks.

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* DemotedToExtra: In the first two episodes, Creator/FalkHentschel's name was part of the main credits. Here, he's only billed in the guest star lineup, not with the [[AndStarring "Special Guest"]] citation like the guesting former cast members of the other Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} Series/{{Arrowverse}} shows. Possibly justified since Carter only appeared in flashbacks.
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The title is clearly referring to Per Degaton and his relationship with his father, Tor.


* TrivialTitle: As written in TerminologyTitle above, the episode title refers to both Rachel Turner (Ray's great-great-great-great- niece) and Aldus Boardman (Kendra and Carter's son in their [[TwentiethCentury 20th Century]] incarnation). However, both are hardly the focus of the episode.
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** Though the title could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.

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** Though Additionally though, the title could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.
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** The title can also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.

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** The Though the title can could also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.
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* NoNewFashionsInTheFuture: Subverted in so far as while the fashion is just what you'd expect in your average [[PuttingOnTheReich dystopian police state]], there are no new ''textiles'' in the future. The clothes are still simply made out of wool, much to the annoyance of Jax.


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** The title can also refer to Per Degaton, son of Tor Degaton.
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* GenreSavvy: After hearing Rip talk about his son, Per Degaton quickly realises that Rip brought him to an abandoned area to kill him, and, even when Rip has a gun aimed at him, figures out that Rip wouldn't actually kill him.
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** Mick commented that there's nothing heroic about killing a child.

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** Mick commented that there's nothing heroic about killing a child. Somewhat hypocritical though, as he intended to kill Snart's sister during all possible stages of her life last episode.
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** At the end of the episode Mick and Snart have a fistfight to decide what happens to the former. While they might have been evenly matched in 2016 Mick's training at the hands of the Timemasters lets him quickly take control of the fight and beat the daylights out of Snart. In addition Mick spares Snart and stays with the team not because he's realized the error of his ways but because the Timemasters have sent something worse than him to finish the job and there's safety in numbers.
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* HeelFaceTurn: With a hint of EnemyMine; since he failed to capture the Legends for the Time Masters, Mick is as much a target for the Hunters as they are, so he aligns with them to stay on the run and stay alive.

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* HeelFaceTurn: HazyFeelTurn: With a hint of EnemyMine; since he failed to capture the Legends for the Time Masters, Mick is as much a target for the Hunters as they are, so he aligns with them to stay on the run and stay alive.
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* EliteMooks: After easily facing down terrorists with 20th century guns a few episodes back, the team almost lose against the ATOM robots that can fly and counter the team's powerful energy attacks with their own lasers.
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* CurbstompBattle: When Gideon shows Savage's coup against Per Degaton, Vandal easily kills an armoured Degaton in two knife moves. To further cement how mighty Savage is, offscreen he defeats Sara without breaking a sweat.

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* AnalogyBackfire: For Vandal Savage, [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing the legend of Oedipus]] is an inspirational tale about a man who murdered his father to become a great and powerful king. He leaves out the fact that Oedipus killed his father by accident, won the crown of Thebes by defeating the Sphinx and especially that [[SurpriseIncest it didn't end well]] [[EyeScream for him]].

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* AnalogyBackfire: For Vandal Savage, [[Theatre/OedipusTheKing the legend of Oedipus]] is an inspirational tale about a man who murdered his father to become a great and powerful king. He leaves out the fact that Oedipus killed his father by accident, won the crown of Thebes by defeating the Sphinx and especially that [[SurpriseIncest it didn't end well]] [[EyeScream for him]]. The twisting of the tale is likely deliberate on Savage's part; he only really needs [[{{Patricide}} one element]] of it to sink in for his plans to work, with the rest of the story being pure manipulation.



* TheBadGuyWins: At the end of the episode, everything works out in Savage's favour; he has control of the Kasnian Conglomerate and the Armageddon virus to aid his plans, he's well-positioned to rid himself of Per Degaton when he's outlived his usefulness, and he has a base of operations for his future campaign of world domination.



* BreatherEpisode: In the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes.

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* BreatherEpisode: In the Franchise/{{Arrowverse}} as a whole, given that it airs the day after one of the most dramatic ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' episodes of all time, "Eleven Fifty-Nine". For that matter, it's this in the context of ''Legends'' as well, coming after a string of far more serious and dramatic episodes. That being said, [[DownerEnding the]] [[TheBadGuyWins ending]] isn't exactly sunshine and rainbows.



* ContinuityNod: Gideon mentions a dream Sara had about [[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS1E8NightOfTheHawk a nurse]].



* DownerEnding: The Legends failed to prevent Savage from using Per Degaton to advance his own power. If anything, they made matters ''worse'', as Savage manipulates Degaton into murdering his father, then uses his new influence over the Kasnian Conglomerate to unleash a deadly virus that devastates the world's population five years earlier than it had before the timeline changed. Besides which, the teams efforts to forestall Savage's rise to power didn't do a thing to change the timeline. On top of all that, with Mick having failed to capture the team, the Time Masters have dispatched an even deadlier group of assassins whose mission is explicitly to kill them.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Mick commented that there's nothing heroic about killing a child.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: Tor Degaton chooses to let the team go rather than risk his son's life.
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Mick commented that there's nothing heroic about killing a child.child.
** Tor Degaton, although he's the head of an oppressive PoliceState, flat out refuses Savage's suggestion of "[[TheSocialDarwinist culling the herd]]" (with the "herd" being the overpopulated outside world). This gets him assassinated by his own son.



* GenreSavvy: After hearing Rip talk about his son, Per Degaton quickly realises that Rip brought him to an abandoned area to kill him, and, even when Rip has a gun aimed at him, figures out that Rip wouldn't actually kill him.



* HeelFaceTurn: With a hint of EnemyMine; since he failed to capture the Legends for the Time Masters, Mick is as much a target for the Hunters as they are, so he aligns with them to stay on the run and stay alive.



* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad has Vandal Savage be a personal tutor for his son!?

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: What kind of dad has Vandal Savage be a personal tutor for his son!?son!? This is apparently a family trait; Per Degaton refuses to believe that Savage would ever betray him. One imagines that his death came as something of a surprise.



* LoveIsAWeakness: Per Degaton, clearly influenced by Savage, expresses views to this effect, referring to his father as weak, and seeming disappointed that Tor was willing to spare the Legends in exchange for his son's life.
* TheManBehindTheMan: Savage to Per Degaton, at least until Savage decides to step up to the front.



* PuttingOnTheReich: The Kasnian uniforms bear an uncomfortable resemblance to Nazi uniforms, although the Kasnian Conglomerate, while oppressive, is presented as a lesser evil than Vandal Savage. Until he takes over, at least.
* RealityEnsues: Rip's act of mercy, while affecting, doesn't do a thing to break Savage's influence over Per Degaton. As soon as they're alone together again, Savage manipulates Degaton into carrying out his will.



* TheSocialDarwinist: Savage compares reducing the population of Earth to culling a herd.



* WeirdnessCensor: Rachel Turner is only mildly bemused that Ray looks ''exactly'' like a bust of the founder of her company.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tor Degaton, while being the ruler over a police state, still seems to have some standarts and a sense of honour. It's what Vandal and his son see as a weakness.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Tor Degaton, while being the ruler over a police state, still seems to have some standarts standards and a sense of honour. It's what Vandal and his son see as a weakness.



* WouldHurtAChild: The main conflict of the episode.

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* WouldHurtAChild: The main conflict of the episode. Snart advocates killing the young Per Degaton, while most of the team objects. Rip eventually tries to execute Degaton for the sake of preventing Savage's rise to power and the death of his own son. Ultimately, Rip finds that he can't bring himself to kill the boy.
* YouHaveFailedMe: Since Mick failed to bring in the Legends, he's as much of a target for the Hunters as they are.

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