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** We want some AudienceSurrogate for not-so-athletic men, let's GiveGeeksAChance for their WishFulfillment!

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** We Alternatively: "We want some AudienceSurrogate and/or PowerDynamicsKink for not-so-athletic men, let's GiveGeeksAChance for their WishFulfillment!WishFulfillment!"
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** WishFulfillment and AudienceSurrogate of [[NonActionGuy non-athletic male audiences]].

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** WishFulfillment and We want some AudienceSurrogate of [[NonActionGuy non-athletic male audiences]].for not-so-athletic men, let's GiveGeeksAChance for their WishFulfillment!
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** WomenPreferStrongMen[=/=]AllAmazonsWantHercules.
** AmazonChaser.

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** WomenPreferStrongMen[=/=]AllAmazonsWantHercules.
WomenPreferStrongMen[=/=]AllAmazonsWantHercules
** AmazonChaser.AmazonChaser

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'''Alice''': No, no I wouldn't.

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'''Alice''': No, no I wouldn't.wouldn't....



-->'''Diane''': What do you prefer in men then?

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-->'''Diane''': -->'''Diane''': ...What do you prefer in men then?



-->'''Alice''': I like and want to feel I'm the knight in shining armor and he's the damsel-in-distress princess.

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-->'''Alice''': I like and want to feel that I'm the knight in shining armor and he's the damsel-in-distress princess.princess.
-->'''Diane''': Sounds sweet, I'm interested.

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* '''Discussed''': ???

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* '''Discussed''': ???'''Discussed''':
-->'''Diane''': What do you prefer in men then?
-->'''Alice''': Hmmm...Someone small, shy and could succumb to my every whim.
-->'''Diane''': Sounds strange, why's that?
-->'''Alice''': I like and want to feel I'm the knight in shining armor and he's the damsel-in-distress princess.

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* '''Exaggerated''':
** Charles is so weak, he can't squish a fly, but this makes Alice fall madly in love with him.
** AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs

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* '''Exaggerated''':
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'''Exaggerated''': Charles is so weak, he can't squish a fly, but this makes Alice fall madly in love with him.
** AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs
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** Alice is actually evil and [[BastardGirlfriend takes pleasure in the suffering of others]], so she only dates guys she knows can't fight back.

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** Alice is actually evil and [[BastardGirlfriend [[FetishizedAbuser takes pleasure in the suffering of others]], so she only dates guys she knows can't fight back.
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** [[HaremSeeker Alice want both of them at the same time.]]

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** [[HaremSeeker Alice want wants both of them at the same time.]]



** AuthorTract for WishFulfillment of [[NonActionGuy non-athletic male audiences]].

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** AuthorTract for WishFulfillment and AudienceSurrogate of [[NonActionGuy non-athletic male audiences]].

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* '''Averted''': Alice dates neither of them.
* '''Enforced''': "That whole 'WomenPreferStrongMen' thing is getting a little old, don't you think? Pretty soon, it might develope UnfortunateImplications. Let's stay away from it."

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Alice dates neither of them.
** [[HaremSeeker Alice want both of them at the same time.]]
* '''Enforced''': '''Enforced''':
**
"That whole 'WomenPreferStrongMen' thing is getting a little old, don't you think? Pretty soon, it might develope develops UnfortunateImplications. Let's stay away from it.""
** AuthorTract for WishFulfillment of [[NonActionGuy non-athletic male audiences]].

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob is stronger than Charles, but Charles is smarter. Since Alice is already clever, she doesn't want to butt heads with Charles, so she chooses Bob. Bob turns out to be DumbMuscle and annoys Alice so much she goes back to Charles. Charles is an InsufferableGenius, and Alice eventually gives up on both of them and stays single.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Zagged''':
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Bob is stronger than Charles, but Charles is smarter. Since Alice is already clever, she doesn't want to butt heads with Charles, so she chooses Bob. Bob turns out to be DumbMuscle and annoys Alice so much she goes back to Charles. Charles is an InsufferableGenius, and Alice eventually gives up on both of them and stays single.single.
** Alice loves that Charles is skinny and weak, but she also loves that he's got some [[{{Determinator}} serious grit]].



* '''Reconstructed''': No one messes [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend knowing what Alice can do to them]].

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* '''Reconstructed''': No one messes with Charles [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend knowing what Alice can do to them]].

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* '''Exaggerated''': Charles is so weak, he can't squish a fly, but this makes Alice fall madly in love with him.

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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
**
Charles is so weak, he can't squish a fly, but this makes Alice fall madly in love with him.him.
** AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs
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* TheSocialDarwinist

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* ** TheSocialDarwinist
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** Meta: The board tries to enforce this trope in Alice and Charles in order to avoid the UnfortunateImplications of [[WomenPreferStrongMen girls preferring strong guys]]. A ton of backlash is sent their way anyway, because it just implies that the only way a girl can have a fulfilling relationship is if she gets with a man weaker than her.



** Alternatively, Bob's weak traits lead him to have a complex about fixing them, and he sees Alice admiring the traits he despises in himself to be insulting and condescending.
* '''Reconstructed''': And the next time Charles found them, [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend they were hospitalized]].

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** Alternatively, Bob's weak traits lead him to have a complex about fixing them, and he sees Alice admiring the traits he despises in himself to be insulting and condescending.
* '''Reconstructed''': And the next time Charles found them, No one messes [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend they were hospitalized]].knowing what Alice can do to them]].

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** AmazonChaser.
* '''Gender Inverted''':



* '''Gender Inverted''': AmazonChaser.

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* '''Gender Inverted''': AmazonChaser.** Alice, a lesbian, prefers women weaker than her.

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* '''Played For Laughs''': Charles comically plays out most of the tropes of housewives.



* '''Implied''': Charles is shown to be weak, and someone asks what Alice sees in him. She just smiles.



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%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???

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** Alternatively, Bob's inferior traits lead him to have a complex about it, and he sees Alice admiring the traits he despises in himself to be insulting to his real desires.

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** Alternatively, Bob's inferior weak traits lead him to have a complex about it, fixing them, and he sees Alice admiring the traits he despises in himself to be insulting to his real desires.and condescending.
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** Alternatively, Bob's inferior traits lead him to have a complex about it, and he sees Alice admiring the traits he despises in himself to be insulting to his real desires.
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** WomenPreferStrongMen.

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** WomenPreferStrongMen.WomenPreferStrongMen[=/=]AllAmazonsWantHercules.
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** Alice only got with Charles because she likes feeling superior to him.

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** Alice only got with Charles because she is vain and likes feeling superior to him.



* '''Played For Drama''': Bob calls out Alice for her choice in Charles, stating that the only reason she would want someone like that is to either take advantage of him or it's because [[SmugSuper she finds Charles amusing]].

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* '''Played For Drama''': Bob calls out Alice for her choice in Charles, stating takes time to talk to Charles and states that the only reason she would want someone like that two reasons Alice is to interested in him is either to take advantage of him or it's because [[SmugSuper she finds Charles amusing]].

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** Alice only got with Charles because she likes feeling superior to him.



* PlayedForDrama: Bob calls out Alice for her choice in Charles, stating that the only reason she would want someone like that is to either take advantage of him or it's because [[SmugSuper she finds Charles amusing]].

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* PlayedForDrama: '''Played For Drama''': Bob calls out Alice for her choice in Charles, stating that the only reason she would want someone like that is to either take advantage of him or it's because [[SmugSuper she finds Charles amusing]].

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* PlayedForDrama: Bob calls out Alice for her choice in Charles, stating that the only reason she would want someone like that is to either take advantage of him or it's because [[SmugSuper she finds Charles amusing]].



%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???

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%%* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
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** Alice wants someone she can take care of and [[DeclarationOfProtection protect]] because it makes her feel more confident, she wants people to like & respect her, and/or it gives her a sense of purpose.

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** Alice wants someone she can take care of and [[DeclarationOfProtection protect]] because it makes her feel more confident, she wants people to like & and respect her, and/or it gives her a sense of purpose.



** WomenPreferStrongMen
** NoGuyWantsAnAmazon
* '''Gender Inverted''': AmazonChaser

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** WomenPreferStrongMen
WomenPreferStrongMen.
** NoGuyWantsAnAmazon
NoGuyWantsAnAmazon.
* '''Gender Inverted''': AmazonChaserAmazonChaser.



* '''Enforced''': "That whole 'WomenPreferStrongMen' thing is getting a little old, don't you think? Pretty soon, it might develope UnfortunateImplications. Let's stay away from it.
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow... Alice... wouldn't you prefer that {{hunk}}, Bob, over there?" "No, no I wouldn't."

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* '''Enforced''': "That whole 'WomenPreferStrongMen' thing is getting a little old, don't you think? Pretty soon, it might develope UnfortunateImplications. Let's stay away from it.
it."
* '''Lampshaded''': "Wow...'''Lampshaded''':
-->'''Diane''': Wow...
Alice... wouldn't you prefer that {{hunk}}, Bob, over there?" "No, there?\\
'''Alice''': No,
no I wouldn't."



** Meta: The board tries to enforce this trope in Alice and Charles in order to avoid the UnfortunateImplications of girls preferring strong guys. A ton of backlash is sent their way anyway, because it just implies that the only way a girl can have a fulfilling relationship is if she gets with a man weaker than her.
* '''Reconstructed''': And the next time Charles found them, [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend they were hospitalized.]]

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** Meta: The board tries to enforce this trope in Alice and Charles in order to avoid the UnfortunateImplications of [[WomenPreferStrongMen girls preferring strong guys.guys]]. A ton of backlash is sent their way anyway, because it just implies that the only way a girl can have a fulfilling relationship is if she gets with a man weaker than her.
* '''Reconstructed''': And the next time Charles found them, [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend they were hospitalized.]]hospitalized]].
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Fetish Fuel should not be linked to even on YMMV pages; it's a short-term clean-up project to dewick. If there is any in-universe fetishes at work, it needs to go under the Fetish trope.


** Charles is TroubledButCute, insecure, and feels like he needs someone to protect him, and looks to Alice, who [[FetishFuel happily obliges]]. Charles is [[JerkJock harassed]] by Bob and his friends for it.

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** Charles is TroubledButCute, insecure, and feels like he needs someone to protect him, and looks to Alice, who [[FetishFuel happily obliges]].obliges. Charles is [[JerkJock harassed]] by Bob and his friends for it.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob is stronger than Charles, but Charles is smarter. Since Alice is already clever, she doesn't want to butt heads with Colin, so she chooses Bob. Bob turns out to be DumbMuscle and annoys Alice so much she goes back to Charles. Charles is an InsufferableGenius, and Alice eventually gives up on both of them and stays single.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob is stronger than Charles, but Charles is smarter. Since Alice is already clever, she doesn't want to butt heads with Colin, Charles, so she chooses Bob. Bob turns out to be DumbMuscle and annoys Alice so much she goes back to Charles. Charles is an InsufferableGenius, and Alice eventually gives up on both of them and stays single.

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