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Playing With: No True Scots Man
Basic Trope: Someone makes a generalization about a group of people, and when given a counterexample, arbitrarily redefines the group to exclude that person.
  • Straight: "Goths all wear clunky combat boots. What? Ravenna prefers sleek stiletto boots? Well, she's no real Goth."
  • Exaggerated: Alice ends up defining "Real Goths" so narrowly that the majority of Goths do not fit her definition.
  • Downplayed: Alice's exclusion isn't inherently part of the definition (if it was, it wouldn't be the fallacy at all) but is still something most people really wouldn't associate with the group. For example, she says "Goths don't wear pink lipstick!"
  • Justified: ???
  • Inverted:
    • "Only a Goth would dye her hair black. What? Susan does it? Well, then I guess she's a Goth too."
    • Raveena is accepted as a goth even though she never claims to be one because she follows many of the habits of goths.
  • Subverted: Raveena is said by Alice not to be a goth... but because of a list of clearly defined attributes by Alice, which others agree she doens't meet.
  • Double Subverted: ... But many of them are constantly changed and made narrower and narrower as time goes on.
  • Parodied: Raveena is defined as not being Goth enough by something pointlessly silly, like not wearing a very specific nail polish which is hard to get.
  • Zig Zagged: Raveena is seemingly defined as being then not being a Goth at random.
  • Averted: "Well OK, Ravenna's a Goth too, but most Goths aren't like that."
  • Enforced: ???
  • Lampshaded: ???
  • Invoked: ???
  • Exploited: ???
  • Defied: ???
  • Discussed: ???
  • Conversed: ???

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