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* In ''VideoGame/BearAndBreakfast'', Will is the pessimistic one of the main trio and is described as "grumpy on the outside, but surprisingly... [[BaitAndSwitchCharacterIntro even more so on the inside]]". Despite this, he still tags along with them as a good friend.
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%%* Inchiki, from the first [[EatTheDog Menchi]]-[[ADayInTheLimelight Centric]] episode of ''Anime/ExcelSaga'', appears to be this. [[spoiler:We later learn that he is actually TheMole]]. ZERO CONTEXT EXAMPLE

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Contrast DividedWeFall. May contrast with LeastIsFirst as their {{Foil}}, but more often is a {{foil}} for TheHero, who will likely tell them that SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers when they get heavy on the sour. Compare with TheResenter, who actively resents the hero, and with DeterminedDefeatist, in which it's the ''hero'' who has a bad attitude about the odds of success. Often overlaps with be a KnightInSourArmor.

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Contrast DividedWeFall. May contrast with LeastIsFirst (a lowest-status character steps forward first, shaming the higher-status ones into supporting a course of action) as their {{Foil}}, but more often is a {{foil}} for TheHero, who will likely tell them that SillyRabbitCynicismIsForLosers when they get heavy on the sour. Compare with TheResenter, who actively resents the hero, and with DeterminedDefeatist, in which it's the ''hero'' who has a bad attitude about the odds of success. Often overlaps with be a KnightInSourArmor.
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* In the first few episodes of ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'', Vince was this. This faded, and was given to Spinelli on a few occasions.

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* In the first few episodes season of ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'', Vince was this. a mild case of this to T.J. Whenever T.J. came up with a plan, Vince always insisted it was crazy at first and tried to point out the reasons why it wouldn't work. This eventually faded, and was given to Spinelli on a few occasions.occasions instead.
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* [[TheCoroner Medical Examiner]] Perlmutter from ''Series/{{Castle}}''.

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* [[TheCoroner Medical Examiner]] Perlmutter from ''Series/{{Castle}}''.''Series/{{Castle|2009}}''.
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* While Tim started out as a rather idealistic [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]] after almost everyone he loves died, Bruce pulled a couple of rather heartless manipulation attempts on him, and three out of four of his adoptive siblings either try to kill him or frame him for murder he becomes incredibly cynical, stating that when he was forced to hear the anti-life equation in the moments while he still retained his sense of self he ''found he agreed with it'' but tried to fight its control because he'd made oaths when he took on the Robin mantle. His cynicism was starting to lighten up after [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 Kon]], [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie]], and [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} Bart]] came back and gave him some actual support but then ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}} happened and erased that version of Tim.

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* While Tim started out as a rather idealistic [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]] ComicBook/{{Robin|1993}} after almost everyone he loves died, Bruce pulled a couple of rather heartless manipulation attempts on him, and three out of four of his adoptive siblings either try to kill him or frame him for murder he becomes incredibly cynical, stating that when he was forced to hear the anti-life equation in the moments while he still retained his sense of self he ''found he agreed with it'' but tried to fight its control because he'd made oaths when he took on the Robin mantle. His cynicism was starting to lighten up after [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 Kon]], [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie]], and [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} Bart]] came back and gave him some actual support but then ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}} happened and erased that version of Tim.
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* Inchiki, from the first [[EatTheDog Menchi]]-[[ADayInTheLimelight Centric]] episode of ''Anime/ExcelSaga'', appears to be this. [[spoiler:We later learn that he is actually TheMole]].

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* %%* Inchiki, from the first [[EatTheDog Menchi]]-[[ADayInTheLimelight Centric]] episode of ''Anime/ExcelSaga'', appears to be this. [[spoiler:We later learn that he is actually TheMole]]. ZERO CONTEXT EXAMPLE

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* In Creator/SandyMitchell's ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' novel ''Death Or Glory'', when discussing difficulties getting through a mountain range, the guide Sandy Kolfax says it hardly matters since they will all die before they get there, and later Cain catches him drinking and he professes that it does not matter, as they will all die. But he does lead them. [[spoiler:To the mountains, even. Where he dies]].



* In Creator/GrahamMcNeill's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''Literature/{{Ultramarines}}'' novel ''Dead Sky Black Sun'', when Uriel urges a group of Space Marines and two Imperial Guardsmen to help him, Vaanes, the leader of the group, was the last to agree, with the observation that he knew Uriel would be trouble. After they leave, he carefully ensures that Uriel knows they could all die. [[spoiler:He finally decides that Uriel's plans can not work and that honour is not good enough to die for]].

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** In Creator/SandyMitchell's ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' novel ''Death Or Glory'', when discussing difficulties getting through a mountain range, the guide Sandy Kolfax says it hardly matters since they will all die before they get there, and later Cain catches him drinking and he professes that it does not matter, as they will all die. But he does lead them. [[spoiler:To the mountains, even. Where he dies.]]
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In Creator/GrahamMcNeill's ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' ''Literature/{{Ultramarines}}'' novel ''Dead Sky Black Sun'', when Uriel urges a group of Space Marines and two Imperial Guardsmen to help him, Vaanes, the leader of the group, was the last to agree, with the observation that he knew Uriel would be trouble. After they leave, he carefully ensures that Uriel knows they could all die. [[spoiler:He finally decides that Uriel's plans can not work cannot work, and that honour is not good enough to die for]].for.]]
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* Creator/CSLewis' ''Literature/ChroniclesOfNarnia'':

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* The ''VideoGame/StarFox'' team's second AcePilot, Falco Lombardi, doesn't think too highly of [[TheHero Fox]] and is OnlyInItForTheMoney.

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* The ''VideoGame/StarFox'' ''Franchise/StarFox'' team's second AcePilot, Falco Lombardi, doesn't think too highly of [[TheHero Fox]] and is OnlyInItForTheMoney.
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* This is what makes James Acaster so entertaining on Series 7 of ''Series/{{Taskmaster}}''. The other contestants, consisting of the goofy Phil Wang, the fun-loving Kerry Godliman and Jessica Knappet, and the batshit insane perverse {{Troll}} Rhod Gilbert, are all generally having a good time, enjoying themselves, joking around, and overall rolling with the punches. James, meanwhile, is a downright ''bitter'' sourpuss who seems to genuinely be having a bad time, frequently has a scowl on his face, and goes off on several tirades and delivers a couple of TheReasonYouSuck speeches to his contestants and ''even the Taskmaster himself''. His funniest running gag is his utter refusal to even ''acknowledge'' [[BeleagueredAssistant Alex Horne]] at the beginning of tasks: while everyone else will respond in kind to Alex's greeting, James just walks past in silence and reads the task.
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* While Tim started out as a rather idealistic [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]] after almost everyone he loves died, Bruce pulled a couple of rather heartless manipulation attempts on him, and three out of four of his adoptive siblings either try to kill him or frame him for murder he becomes incredibly cynical, stating that when he was forced to hear the anit-life equation in the moments while he still retained his sense of self he ''found he agreed with it'' but tried to fight its control because he'd made oaths when he took on the Robin mantle. His cynicism was starting to lighten up after [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 Kon]], [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie]], and [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} Bart]] came back and gave him some actual support but then ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}} happened and erased that version of Tim.

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* ''ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy2008:'' Gamora starts off as one of these. [[spoiler:That she didn't entirely sign up of her own free will, but through psychic nudging from Mantis, might have something to do with this.]]
* While Tim started out as a rather idealistic [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Robin]] after almost everyone he loves died, Bruce pulled a couple of rather heartless manipulation attempts on him, and three out of four of his adoptive siblings either try to kill him or frame him for murder he becomes incredibly cynical, stating that when he was forced to hear the anit-life anti-life equation in the moments while he still retained his sense of self he ''found he agreed with it'' but tried to fight its control because he'd made oaths when he took on the Robin mantle. His cynicism was starting to lighten up after [[ComicBook/Superboy1994 Kon]], [[ComicBook/Batgirl2009 Stephanie]], and [[ComicBook/{{Impulse}} Bart]] came back and gave him some actual support but then ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}} happened and erased that version of Tim.



* ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'': Though he respects Charles Xavier's ideals of peace, Colossus finds his aversion to killing opponents reckless and dangerous. This was elaborated upon after he saved the team by killing Xavier rogue mutant son, Legion.

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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.
* JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf complain about every single act on ''Series/TheMuppetShow''. [[FridgeLogic And yet they have box seats for every single show]]. Reasons for why range from "[[CausticCritic They're theater critics!]]" to "We don't even know how to get out of this stupid theater box!" to simply "[[VoodooShark I guess we'll never know!]]"
** Also Sam Eagle, who despite how particular he is about the acts still has no intention of leaving the show (and Kermit has no intention of firing him).


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* JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf complain about every single act on ''Series/TheMuppetShow''. [[FridgeLogic And yet they have box seats for every single show]]. Reasons for why range from "[[CausticCritic They're theater critics!]]" to "We don't even know how to get out of this stupid theater box!" to simply "[[VoodooShark I guess we'll never know!]]"
** Also Sam the Eagle, who despite how particular he is about the acts still has no intention of leaving the show (and Kermit has no intention of firing him).
* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.
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* Marco from ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' was this at first.[[ItsPersonal And then it got personal]].

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* Marco from ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' was this at first. [[ItsPersonal And then it got personal]].
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* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': [[spoiler: J. Jonah Jameson]] has become one in recent years, after [[Spoiler:Spidey revealed his secret identity to him over dinner.]]

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* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': [[spoiler: J. Jonah Jameson]] has become one in recent years, after [[Spoiler:Spidey [[spoiler: Spidey revealed his secret identity to him over dinner.]]
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* ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': [[spoiler: J. Jonah Jameson]] has become one in recent years, after [[Spoiler:Spidey revealed his secret identity to him over dinner.]]
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But if so, they will regard it as a SenselessSacrifice. The GrumpyBear that they are, they make no bones about considering TheHero's {{plan}} futile, and may join only because [[ThePowerOfFriendship their friends are]], and anything else is also futile. Possibly even only because it's their only way to avoid DyingAlone. Often the oldest member of the group, and prone to SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids (Though not often so gloomy as to be TheEeyore.) When it dawns on them that victory is possible, an attack of HopeIsScary is not uncommon.

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But if so, they will regard it as a SenselessSacrifice. The GrumpyBear TheCynic that they are, they make no bones about considering TheHero's {{plan}} futile, and may join only because [[ThePowerOfFriendship their friends are]], and anything else is also futile. Possibly even only because it's their only way to avoid DyingAlone. Often the oldest member of the group, and prone to SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids (Though not often so gloomy as to be TheEeyore.) When it dawns on them that victory is possible, an attack of HopeIsScary is not uncommon.



In very hard cases, tragically, they may [[OptOut decide that the effort is not worth it and leave]]. They may even encounter the villain and have a FaceHeelTurn, but this is uncommon. Usually they're no worse than the "[[KnightInSourArmor Disney Anti-Hero]]."


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In very hard cases, tragically, they may [[OptOut decide that the effort is not worth it and leave]]. They may even encounter the villain and have a FaceHeelTurn, but this is uncommon. Usually Usually, they're no worse than the "[[KnightInSourArmor Disney Anti-Hero]]."

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* Kirby from ''WesternAnimation/TheBraveLittleToaster'' certainly didn't keep his objections to himself when the group set out to find the master.
--> "I just ''know'' I'm gonna regret this..."
* Branch in ''WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}}.'' He's very outspoken about the trolls' general frivolity, and when it comes back to bite them just as he predicted, he'd rather hide out in his bunker than do anything to help. Poppy manipulates him into joining her quest, but he spends most of the time grumbling about it, fully expecting them to be captured and eaten.
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* Warlock from ''Film/LiveFreeOrDieHard''.

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* Branch in ''WesternAnimation/{{Trolls}}.'' He's very outspoken about the trolls' general frivolity, and when it comes back to bite them just as he predicted, he'd rather hide out in his bunker than do anything to help. Poppy manipulates him into joining her quest, but he spends most of the time grumbling about it, fully expecting them to be captured and eaten.
* Kirby from ''WesternAnimation/TheBraveLittleToaster'' certainly didn't keep his objections to himself when the group set out to find the master.
--> "I just ''know'' I'm gonna regret this..."
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* Wrestling/JimCornette in Global Force Wrestling, the original run and even more so the Anthem owned version. Jim said Wrestling/JeffJarrett was crazy for trying to start another wrestling promotion but came to shows in the corner of Wrestling/BulletClub helping [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]] because Jeff's a friend, Cornette feels he owes a debt to the Jarrett family and he likes Wrestling/KarlAnderson, [[Wrestling/DrewHankinson Doc Gallows]] and Amber O'Neal. He came onto the Anthem show when asked, openly calling them suits no more knowledgeable about pro wrestling than [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} Turner]], [[Wrestling/ImpactWrestling Panda]] or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor Sinclair]]'s, because he truly believes there should be alternative products in USA pro wrestling again. Besides this, he makes several appearances on independent circuit, often for friends (Danny Davis in Ohio Valley Wrestling, Wrestling/RobConway in various Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA members).
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* Morrigan from ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', and [[{{Golem}} Shale]] the DLC character.

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* Morrigan and aspecially Sten (who is so sour, he will at one point outright attack you because he thinks you're deviating from your true goal) from ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', and [[{{Golem}} Shale]] the DLC character.
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* [[Franchise/{{RWBY}} Glynda Goodwitch]] in ''Fanfic/BlazBlueAlternativeRemnant'' is a lot more cynical about [[Franchise/BlazBlue Litchi Faye-Ling's]] mission to find a cure for Roy's transformation, making it clear when they reunite that she doesn't believe there even is a cure for what he's become. It doesn't stop her from helping Litchi anyway.
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* Gretchen from ''Theatre/JasperInDeadland''. Once Mr Lethe sends his minions to stop Jasper, she starts to suspect that he will fail to save Agnes, just as [[RescuedFromTheUnderworld Orpheus failed to save Eurydice]]. Despite this, every time she decides to leave Jasper, she ends up turning around almost immediately, or staying long enough to change her mind.

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* Gretchen from ''Theatre/JasperInDeadland''. Once Mr Lethe sends his minions to stop Jasper, she starts to suspect After being told that he Jasper's friend Agnes has entered Elysium, she becomes highly doubtful that Jasper and Agnes will fail be able to save Agnes, just as [[RescuedFromTheUnderworld Orpheus failed to save Eurydice]].reunite or leave together. Despite this, every time she decides to leave Jasper, she ends up turning around almost immediately, or staying long enough to change her mind.
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* Gretchen from ''Theatre/JasperInDeadland''. Once Mr Lethe sends his minions to stop Jasper, she starts to suspect that he will fail to save Agnes, just as [[RescuedFromTheUnderworld Orpheus failed to save Eurydice]]. Despite this, every time she decides to leave Jasper, she ends up turning around almost immediately, or staying long enough to change her mind.
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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.

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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.
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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and is a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.

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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and is a notorious germaphobe who typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.
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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and is a notorious germaphobe who notably shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.

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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and is a notorious germaphobe who notably typically shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.
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* ''Series/FraggleRock'': Boober is the anti-Fraggle; an often grumpy, cowardly guy who finds pleasure in his life from laundry and cooking, and is a notorious germaphobe who notably shuns the fun-loving style in which other Fraggles love to indulge. Still, he's still a good friend to Gobo, Mokey, Wembley and Red, and if the others are in trouble, he will (temporarily) put his fears aside and save the day.

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