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6th Mar '18 5:33:03 AM Suicide_Birds
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But if so, he will regard it as SenselessSacrifice. GrumpyBear that he is, he makes no bones about considering TheHero's {{plan}} futile, and may join only because [[ThePowerOfFriendship his friends are]], and anything else is also futile. Possibly even only because it's his only way to avoid DyingAlone. Often the oldest member of the group, and prone to SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids. (Though not often so gloomy as to be TheEeyore.) When it dawns on him that victory is possible, an attack of HopeIsScary is not uncommon.

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But if so, he will regard it as SenselessSacrifice. The GrumpyBear that he is, he makes no bones about considering TheHero's {{plan}} futile, and may join only because [[ThePowerOfFriendship his friends are]], and anything else is also futile. Possibly even only because it's his only way to avoid DyingAlone. Often the oldest member of the group, and prone to SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids. (Though not often so gloomy as to be TheEeyore.) When it dawns on him that victory is possible, an attack of HopeIsScary is not uncommon.
5th Mar '18 8:59:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* [[Franchise/SailorMoon Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune.]] [[WrongGenreSavvy Unfortunately (fortunately?) for them]], the SM-verse is a real SugarBowl at times, and everything really can be set right with ThePowerOfLove, so really, their sourness just makes them look [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] sometimes.

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* [[Franchise/SailorMoon ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' has Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune.]] Neptune. [[WrongGenreSavvy Unfortunately (fortunately?) for them]], the SM-verse is a real SugarBowl at times, and everything really can be set right with ThePowerOfLove, so really, their sourness just makes them look [[{{Wangst}} Wangsty]] sometimes.



* Many of Rand Al Thor's supporters in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' behave like this. The man is the ChosenOne (of several prophecies and groups) but none of his disparate groups of supporters trust the other ones, and many regard him as nothing more than a loaded cannon they need to further their own ends while regarding him as an idiot who messes everything up that they need to step carefully around. To be fair Rand is pretty insane by this point, and can act idiotically, but he is a lot more competent than they give him credit for and were it not for the prevalence of this trope he would have managed to do a lot more by now. Interestingly enough, Rand is actually GenreSavvy enough to try and play the groups against each other in order to get rid of some people that are hindering him. [[XanatosGambit Its a safe bet that at least one of them will bite the dust]] but [[GeneralFailure Namely High Lord Wieramon]]. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption It never works]].

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* Many of Rand Al Thor's supporters in ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' behave like this. The man is the ChosenOne (of several prophecies and groups) but none of his disparate groups of supporters trust the other ones, and many regard him as nothing more than a loaded cannon they need to further their own ends while regarding him as an idiot who messes everything up that they need to step carefully around. To be fair Rand is pretty insane by this point, and can act idiotically, but he is a lot more competent than they give him credit for and were it not for the prevalence of this trope he would have managed to do a lot more by now. Interestingly enough, Rand is actually GenreSavvy enough tries to try and play the groups against each other in order to get rid of some people that are hindering him. [[XanatosGambit Its a safe bet that at least one of them will bite the dust]] but [[GeneralFailure Namely High Lord Wieramon]]. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption It never works]].
18th Feb '18 2:39:20 PM MaiaMaiden
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* ''Literature/TheUnknownSoldier'': Corporal Lahtinen is a Communist conscripted to fight against the Soviet Union on the side of a quasi-fascist Finland in alliance with the Nazi Germany. He's not happy about it, as he never lets the other characters forget. However, he's also one of the most reliable and loyal fighters in the company, and even [[spoilers: pulls of YouCannotPass DyingMomentOfAwesome to hold back the charging Soviets to buy time for the retreating Finns.]]

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* ''Literature/TheUnknownSoldier'': Corporal Lahtinen is a Communist conscripted to fight against the Soviet Union on the side of a quasi-fascist Finland in alliance with the Nazi Germany. He's not happy about it, as he never lets the other characters forget. However, he's also one of the most reliable and loyal fighters in the company, and even [[spoilers: [[spoiler: pulls of YouCannotPass off a YouShallNotPass DyingMomentOfAwesome to hold back the charging Soviets to buy time for the retreating Finns.]]
18th Feb '18 2:38:08 PM MaiaMaiden
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* ''Literature/TheUnknownSoldier'': Corporal Lahtinen is a Communist conscripted to fight against the Soviet Union on the side of a quasi-fascist Finland in alliance with the Nazi Germany. He's not happy about it, as he never lets the other characters forget. However, he's also one of the most reliable and loyal fighters in the company, and even [[spoilers: pulls of YouCannotPass DyingMomentOfAwesome to hold back the charging Soviets to buy time for the retreating Finns.]]
5th Oct '17 1:51:03 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Wrestling/JimCornette in Global Force Wrestling, the original run and even more so the Anthem own version. Jim said Wrestling/JeffJarrett was crazy for trying to start another wrestling promotion but came to shows in the corner of Wrestling/BulletClub helping [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]] because Jeff's a friend, Cornette feels he owes a debt to the Jarrett family and he likes Wrestling/KarlAnderson, Wrestling/DocGallows and Amber O'Neal. He came onto the Anthem show when asked, openly calling them suits no more knowledgeable about pro wrestling than [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} Turner]], [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Panda]] or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor Sinclair]]'s, because he truly believes there should be alternative products in USA pro wrestling again. Besides this, he makes several appearances on independent circuit, often for friends (Danny Davis in Ohio Valley Wrestling, Wrestling/RobConway in various Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA members).[[/folder]]

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* Wrestling/JimCornette in Global Force Wrestling, the original run and even more so the Anthem own owned version. Jim said Wrestling/JeffJarrett was crazy for trying to start another wrestling promotion but came to shows in the corner of Wrestling/BulletClub helping [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]] because Jeff's a friend, Cornette feels he owes a debt to the Jarrett family and he likes Wrestling/KarlAnderson, Wrestling/DocGallows and Amber O'Neal. He came onto the Anthem show when asked, openly calling them suits no more knowledgeable about pro wrestling than [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} Turner]], [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Panda]] or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor Sinclair]]'s, because he truly believes there should be alternative products in USA pro wrestling again. Besides this, he makes several appearances on independent circuit, often for friends (Danny Davis in Ohio Valley Wrestling, Wrestling/RobConway in various Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA members).[[/folder]]
30th Aug '17 5:23:00 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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* Wrestling/JimCornette in Global Force Wrestling, the original run and even more so the Anthem own version. Jim said Wrestling/JeffJarrett was crazy for trying to start another wrestling promotion but came to shows in the corner of Wrestling/BulletClub helping [[MerchandiseDriven to sell merchandise]] because Jeff's a friend, Cornette feels he owes a debt to the Jarrett family and he likes Wrestling/KarlAnderson, Wrestling/DocGallows and Amber O'Neal. He came onto the Anthem show when asked, openly calling them suits no more knowledgeable about pro wrestling than [[Wrestling/{{WCW}} Turner]], [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Panda]] or [[Wrestling/RingOfHonor Sinclair]]'s, because he truly believes there should be alternative products in USA pro wrestling again. Besides this, he makes several appearances on independent circuit, often for friends (Danny Davis in Ohio Valley Wrestling, Wrestling/RobConway in various Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA members).[[/folder]]
16th Aug '17 12:29:31 PM Jhamin
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** It goes un-commented on in the film, but Peggy Carter also runs toward the grenade. Steve is just closer.
1st Jun '17 7:38:04 PM nombretomado
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* Many of Rand Al Thor's supporters in the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' behave like this. The man is the ChosenOne (of several prophecies and groups) but none of his disparate groups of supporters trust the other ones, and many regard him as nothing more than a loaded cannon they need to further their own ends while regarding him as an idiot who messes everything up that they need to step carefully around. To be fair Rand is pretty insane by this point, and can act idiotically, but he is a lot more competent than they give him credit for and were it not for the prevalence of this trope he would have managed to do a lot more by now. Interestingly enough, Rand is actually GenreSavvy enough to try and play the groups against each other in order to get rid of some people that are hindering him. [[XanatosGambit Its a safe bet that at least one of them will bite the dust]] but [[GeneralFailure Namely High Lord Wieramon]]. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption It never works]].

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* Many of Rand Al Thor's supporters in the ''Literature/WheelOfTime'' ''Literature/TheWheelOfTime'' behave like this. The man is the ChosenOne (of several prophecies and groups) but none of his disparate groups of supporters trust the other ones, and many regard him as nothing more than a loaded cannon they need to further their own ends while regarding him as an idiot who messes everything up that they need to step carefully around. To be fair Rand is pretty insane by this point, and can act idiotically, but he is a lot more competent than they give him credit for and were it not for the prevalence of this trope he would have managed to do a lot more by now. Interestingly enough, Rand is actually GenreSavvy enough to try and play the groups against each other in order to get rid of some people that are hindering him. [[XanatosGambit Its a safe bet that at least one of them will bite the dust]] but [[GeneralFailure Namely High Lord Wieramon]]. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption It never works]].
10th Apr '17 4:56:11 PM RacattackForce
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* Gwen Tennyson in the original ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' series was this mixed with SarcasticDevotee towards her cousin's IdiotHero tendencies, with their interactions mostly being arguments and insults toward each other interspersed with regular ThickerThanWater moments. Future installments remove this aspect as both characters matured.
31st Mar '17 4:02:19 AM Will
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* Uhtred in ''Literature/TheSaxonStories'' is a particularly reluctant example. He expects -- and hopes -- that the Danes will win their war against Wessex, but has unfortunately found himself sworn to serve [[UsefulNotes/AlfredTheGreat King Alfred]], a man who he hates for both his religion and his personality -- but ultimately, over the course of years, comes to respect.
-->"I had not liked him. I had struggled against him and for him, I had cursed him and thanked him, despised him and admired him... He was my king and all that I now have I owe to him. The food that I eat, the hall where I live and the swords of my men, all started with Alfred, who hated me at times, loved me at times, and was generous with me. He was a gold-giver."
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