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* Ok, I admit I haven't seen the movie, so it may be explained better... but under IrrevocableOrder it says they fire a Tomahawk cruise missile at a terrorist camp, it gets out of radio range, however far that is, and they have to send James to [[spoiler:remove the nukes]] from the camp before the missile gets there? I got a big WTF in the face on that. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile) Tomahawk]] has a 1550 mile range, and travels at 550mph. Assuming they fired it from maximum possible range, they have less than three hours (2.8181, [[LeeroyJenkins repeating, of course]]) to get him to an airplane, fly to the camp, talk/fight his way in and [[spoiler:remove the nukes]] somehow, all before the missile gets there? [[FlatWhat What]].
** This is why we watch films before commenting on them. At the beginning of the film, Bond is infiltrated in an Illegal Arm's Fair, feeding info back to HQ. After the generals think they've got all the info they need, they command their ship to shoot the missile at the fair. Right then, Bond notices a parked Jet fighter at the fair which is carrying nuclear missiles. HQ is notified of this and try to abort the missile they've just fired in order to avoid a massive blast and a political catastrophe. However, the missile by then is out of range and impossible to abort. Bond, who, again, is already AT THE LOCATION, promptly pilots the jet carrying the nukes away from the missile's target. The missile does hit and everything goes up in flames, but Bond is already airborne by then (though he still had to deal with an enemy jet fighter and an annoying "backseat driver".

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\n\n* Ok, I admit I haven't seen the movie, so it may be explained better... but under IrrevocableOrder it says they fire a Tomahawk cruise missile at a terrorist camp, it gets out of radio range, however far that is, and they have to send James to [[spoiler:remove remove the nukes]] nukes from the camp before the missile gets there? I got a big WTF in the face on that. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile) Tomahawk]] has a 1550 mile range, and travels at 550mph. Assuming they fired it from maximum possible range, they have less than three hours (2.8181, [[LeeroyJenkins repeating, of course]]) to get him to an airplane, fly to the camp, talk/fight his way in and [[spoiler:remove remove the nukes]] nukes somehow, all before the missile gets there? [[FlatWhat What]].
** This is why we watch films before commenting on them. At the beginning of the film, Bond is infiltrated in an Illegal Arm's Arms Fair, feeding info back to HQ. After the generals think they've got all the info they need, they command their ship to shoot the missile at the fair. Right then, Bond notices a parked Jet fighter at the fair which is carrying nuclear missiles. HQ is notified of this and try to abort the missile they've just fired in order to avoid a massive blast and a political catastrophe. However, the missile by then is out of range and impossible to abort. Bond, who, again, is already AT THE LOCATION, promptly pilots the jet carrying the nukes away from the missile's target. The missile does hit and everything goes up in flames, but Bond is already airborne by then (though he still had to deal with an enemy jet fighter and an annoying "backseat driver".






























** Chinese uses different alphabets, he might not be familiar with that particular one, and/or given the importance of the messages he prefers to let a native speaker to send them.

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** Chinese uses different alphabets, he might not be familiar with that particular one, and/or given the importance of the messages he prefers to let a native speaker to send them.them.
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* Bond has a First in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, why's he so confused by the Chinese keyboard?

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* Bond has a First in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, why's he so confused by the Chinese keyboard?keyboard?
** Chinese uses different alphabets, he might not be familiar with that particular one, and/or given the importance of the messages he prefers to let a native speaker to send them.
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** Most likely he was angry at the death of most of his associates in the camp and hoped that once Bond was out of the picture he could radio the other plane to affirm their enemy was dead so he could work out how to take the plane somewhere safe.

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** Most likely he was angry at the death of most of his associates in the camp and hoped that once Bond was out of the picture he could radio the other plane to affirm their enemy was dead so he could work out how to take the plane somewhere safe.safe.

* Bond has a First in Oriental Languages from Cambridge, why's he so confused by the Chinese keyboard?
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* This always bugged me about the ColdOpen, but when Bond has stolen the plane, with another guy in it, the moment the other guy regains consciousness, he tries to garrote Bond...while another plane is trying to shoot down the plane both of them are in. Does this guy just not have any self-preservation, because the moment Bond dies, the other guy won't be able to pilot the plane, and that doesn't resolve the situation of the pursuing plane still trying to kill the escaping plane. It just doesn't really make much sense for the guy to be trying to kill the person attempting to save BOTH of their lives.

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* This always bugged me about the ColdOpen, but when Bond has stolen the plane, with another guy in it, the moment the other guy regains consciousness, he tries to garrote Bond...while another plane is trying to shoot down the plane both of them are in. Does this guy just not have any self-preservation, because the moment Bond dies, the other guy won't be able to pilot the plane, and that doesn't resolve the situation of the pursuing plane still trying to kill the escaping plane. It just doesn't really make much sense for the guy to be trying to kill the person attempting to save BOTH of their lives.lives.
** Most likely he was angry at the death of most of his associates in the camp and hoped that once Bond was out of the picture he could radio the other plane to affirm their enemy was dead so he could work out how to take the plane somewhere safe.
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** The European version of Triple A. Basically, he is asking if they called the European version of the guys who get you into your car if you accidentally lock yourself out of it. This is why, when Stamper replies 'Do YOU want to call them?' he sounds kind of exasperated, as it isn't their car and they are obviously villainous. It would basically be like a member of the Mafia or a major gang calling Triple A to help them get into the car of a rival.

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** The European version of Triple A. Basically, he is asking if they called the European version of the guys who get you into your car if you accidentally lock yourself out of it. This is why, when Stamper replies 'Do YOU want to call them?' he sounds kind of exasperated, as it isn't their car and they are obviously villainous. It would basically be like a member of the Mafia or a major gang calling Triple A to help them get into the car of a rival.rival.

* This always bugged me about the ColdOpen, but when Bond has stolen the plane, with another guy in it, the moment the other guy regains consciousness, he tries to garrote Bond...while another plane is trying to shoot down the plane both of them are in. Does this guy just not have any self-preservation, because the moment Bond dies, the other guy won't be able to pilot the plane, and that doesn't resolve the situation of the pursuing plane still trying to kill the escaping plane. It just doesn't really make much sense for the guy to be trying to kill the person attempting to save BOTH of their lives.
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**** I like to think that it was a cheap mock-up, but the mooks were too dumb to realize that, and Gupta was deliberately messing with them. He wants them to get on pins and needles transporting this extremely expensive "satellite" which will inevitably break in transit and then they'll all panic. Gupta is just pulling a giant prank on them.
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*** The term "Crimes Against Humanity" has never formally included the use of nukes in conflict, let alone the mere threat of using them. ''Genocide'' is a crime against humanity, and all-out nuclear war would likely qualify, but a limited nuclear strike probably wouldn't count as genocide. Also, during the Cold War Russia and the U.S. ''didn't'' have a policy of automatically resorting to nukes in the event of war between them. Obviously there was a ''possibility'' of nukes, but it was never an official policy. On both sides the "policy" basically amounted to "We've got a lot of nukes. Don't do anything that would tempt us to use them." But what exactly would trigger a nuclear response was always a bit vague. In this scenario, the possibility that the enemy might resort to nukes is something that both sides would be worried about. Though it's true that they'd both want to avoid an all-out war, so it makes sense that they'd try conventional weapons first, keeping the nukes on standby in case things actually escalated that far.
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* Why didn't the Chinese MiGs report the, to them, inexplicable sinking of the HMS Devonshire? Or, for that matter, the mysterious vessel that was only swimming distance away and yet wasn't visible on radar?
** The obvious assumption is that they DID, and that the British simply didn't believe them. Their ship's last transmission was 'torpedoed by Chinese MiGs, sinking'. And you're surprised that the Chinese response of.... 'well gee whiz guys the ship sank but we're not sure why' didn't convince them?

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* Why didn't the Chinese MiGs [=MiGs=] report the, to them, inexplicable sinking of the HMS Devonshire? Or, for that matter, the mysterious vessel that was only swimming distance away and yet wasn't visible on radar?
** The obvious assumption is that they DID, and that the British simply didn't believe them. Their ship's last transmission was 'torpedoed by Chinese MiGs, [=MiGs=], sinking'. And you're surprised that the Chinese response of.... 'well gee whiz guys the ship sank but we're not sure why' didn't convince them?




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** On top of that, by that point Bond is known to be a target, not simply a trespasser, as he's beaten down Carver's mooks at the launch, Gupta had figured out he's an intelligence agent, and Bond was in an area he definitely shouldn't have been in. Besides, Wai Lin also broke in, so at that point presumably they were just going to kill all witnesses. Past a certain level of importance, the line between security guard and mercenary gets a little thin.



** He shouldn't even have been able to use the jet's weapons while still on the ground. It and other planes capable of being armed have a 'Weight-on-Wheels' switch, a safety mechanism that stops weapon discharge on the ground. A NL F-16 recently had an incident when its switch was disabled and the gun fired at a group of parked F-16s. Most if not all planes are unable to disable the switch from the cockpit

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** He shouldn't even have been able to use the jet's weapons while still on the ground. It and other planes capable of being armed have a 'Weight-on-Wheels' switch, a safety mechanism that stops weapon discharge on the ground. A NL F-16 recently had an incident when its switch was disabled and the gun fired at a group of parked F-16s. Most if not all planes are unable to disable the switch from the cockpit
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** Also, many aircraft don't have the cannon pointed dead-ahead precisely in front of the nose. Some models have it canted up a few degrees for air-to-air combat or down for air-to-ground. Bond may not have had time to check if everything was loaded, the safety pins were pulled from the weapons (before takeoff, the crew chief is supposed to pull them and show the pilot) or even how much fuel was in the aircraft. Bond may be flight trained, but there's no indication he was completely familiar with that model of fighter.
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** The obvious assumption is that they DID, and that the British simply didn't believe them. Their ship's last transmission was 'torpedoed by Chinese MiGs, sinking'. And you're surprised that the Chinese response of.... 'well gee whiz guys the ship sank but we're not sure why' didn't convince them?
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* Why didn't the Chinese MiGs report the, to them, inexplicable sinking of the HMS Devonshire? Or, for that matter, the mysterious vessel that was only swimming distance away and yet wasn't visible on radar?
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*** This. The previous quote is inaccurate to the North Atlantic Treaty as currently in force (it was amended when Turkey joined), but not in a way that changes that South China Sea is not covered (it simply appended "on the territory of Turkey" so it wouldn't be limited to East Thrace for them).
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* What's Kaufman talking about when he asks Stamper, "Did you call the auto club?"

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* What's Kaufman talking about when he asks Stamper, "Did you call the auto club?"club?"
** The European version of Triple A. Basically, he is asking if they called the European version of the guys who get you into your car if you accidentally lock yourself out of it. This is why, when Stamper replies 'Do YOU want to call them?' he sounds kind of exasperated, as it isn't their car and they are obviously villainous. It would basically be like a member of the Mafia or a major gang calling Triple A to help them get into the car of a rival.
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** Carver seems to think he can get away with anything. Before (not) killing Bond, he mentions that the British navy destroying the boat will destroy the evidence, and he'll be in a Carver News helicopter covering the event. Flimsy logic at best as at this point both governments are decidedly wise to his tactics. The man is unstable.

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** Carver seems to think he can get away with anything. Before (not) killing Bond, he mentions that the British navy destroying the boat will destroy the evidence, and he'll be in a Carver News helicopter covering the event. Flimsy logic at best as at this point both governments are decidedly wise to his tactics. The man is unstable.unstable.

* What's Kaufman talking about when he asks Stamper, "Did you call the auto club?"
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** Carver is a bit of a control freak, and has a bit of an ego. This final attack is the culmination of a plan he's been working towards for years. He'd rather be there to witness his master stroke, rather than leave it to his underlings.

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** Carver is a bit of a control freak, and has a bit of an ego. This final attack is the culmination of a plan he's been working towards for years. He'd rather be there to witness his master stroke, rather than leave it to his underlings.underlings.
** Carver seems to think he can get away with anything. Before (not) killing Bond, he mentions that the British navy destroying the boat will destroy the evidence, and he'll be in a Carver News helicopter covering the event. Flimsy logic at best as at this point both governments are decidedly wise to his tactics. The man is unstable.
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** Exclusive Broadcast rights for an audience of ''one billion'' people. With all the advertising revenue that it would provide...


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** Exclusive Broadcast rights for an audience of ''one billion'' people. With all the That's a lot of advertising revenue that it would provide...

revenue. He's also replacing the Chinese government with his own flunky. So it's really more of a coup d'etat.

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\n** Exclusive Broadcast rights for an audience of ''one billion'' people. With all the advertising revenue that it would provide...

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**The missile stolen from the Devonshire was a cruise missile, not nuclear. A Harpoon class, I think. Enough to level a fair portion of Beijing, but not destroy the whole city. Presumably the Chinese High Command would be meeting somewhere specific, the coordinates of which General Chang would have provided to Carver, and he would be delayed a decent enough distance from the strike.
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** Another factor would have been gaining

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** Another factor would have been gaining

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**The UK was likely intending just to scare China via a show of force.
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** The use, or even the threat of use, of nuclear weapons in a conflict is now considered a Crime Against Humanity. Nukes are really for show, or as a last resort. The fact is that two nuclear powers going to war does not mean that said war will be nuclear; the only reason it was ever an issue was due to the United States and Russia having a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (in the event of war, both sides would immediately resort to nukes, thus war was a very, very bad idea), and that was abandoned under UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan of all people (the feeling being, the fact that war would be insane just wasn't safe enough). Nukes were not brought up because, the simple fact is, in RealLife they wouldn't be.[[note]] There have actually been several occasions where nuclear powers got into armed conflicts .China vs the USSR in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict 1969]]. India vs China in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Sino-Indian_skirmish 1987]], and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff 2017]]. India vs Pakistan in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War 1999]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_India%E2%80%93Pakistan_standoff 2001-2002]],[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indo-Pakistani_standoff 2008]], and[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2016%E2%80%932018) 2016-2018]].[[/note]]

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** The use, or even the threat of use, of nuclear weapons in a conflict is now considered a Crime Against Humanity. Nukes are really for show, or as a last resort. The fact is that two nuclear powers going to war does not mean that said war will be nuclear; the only reason it was ever an issue was due to the United States and Russia having a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (in the event of war, both sides would immediately resort to nukes, thus war was a very, very bad idea), and that was abandoned under UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan of all people (the feeling being, the fact that war would be insane just wasn't safe enough). Nukes were not brought up because, the simple fact is, in RealLife they wouldn't be.[[note]] There have actually been several occasions where 2 nuclear powers got into an armed conflicts .conflict with the other. China vs the USSR in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict 1969]]. India vs China in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Sino-Indian_skirmish 1987]], and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff 2017]]. India vs Pakistan in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War 1999]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_India%E2%80%93Pakistan_standoff 2001-2002]],[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indo-Pakistani_standoff 2008]], and[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2016%E2%80%932018) 2016-2018]].[[/note]]
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** The use, or even the threat of use, of nuclear weapons in a conflict is now considered a Crime Against Humanity. Nukes are really for show, or as a last resort. The fact is that two nuclear powers going to war does not mean that said war will be nuclear; the only reason it was ever an issue was due to the United States and Russia having a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (in the event of war, both sides would immediately resort to nukes, thus war was a very, very bad idea), and that was abandoned under UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan of all people (the feeling being, the fact that war would be insane just wasn't safe enough). Nukes were not brought up because, the simple fact is, in RealLife they wouldn't be.
*** To add to this, there have been numerous incidence where 2 or more nuclear armed countries have had standoffs or open confrontations [[note]] (China and the USSR in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict 1969]],India and China in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Sino-Indian_skirmish 1987]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff 2017]]. India and Pakistan in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War 1999]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_India%E2%80%93Pakistan_standoff 2001-2002]],[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indo-Pakistani_standoff 2008]],[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2016%E2%80%932018) 2016-2018]][[/note]]

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** The use, or even the threat of use, of nuclear weapons in a conflict is now considered a Crime Against Humanity. Nukes are really for show, or as a last resort. The fact is that two nuclear powers going to war does not mean that said war will be nuclear; the only reason it was ever an issue was due to the United States and Russia having a policy of Mutually Assured Destruction (in the event of war, both sides would immediately resort to nukes, thus war was a very, very bad idea), and that was abandoned under UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan of all people (the feeling being, the fact that war would be insane just wasn't safe enough). Nukes were not brought up because, the simple fact is, in RealLife they wouldn't be.
*** To add to this, there have been numerous incidence where 2 or more nuclear armed countries have had standoffs or open confrontations
be.[[note]] (China and There have actually been several occasions where nuclear powers got into armed conflicts .China vs the USSR in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict 1969]],India and 1969]]. India vs China in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Sino-Indian_skirmish 1987]], and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_China%E2%80%93India_border_standoff 2017]]. India and vs Pakistan in [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War 1999]], [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001%E2%80%9302_India%E2%80%93Pakistan_standoff 2001-2002]],[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Indo-Pakistani_standoff 2008]],[[https://en.2008]], and[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Pakistan_border_skirmishes_(2016%E2%80%932018) 2016-2018]][[/note]]
2016-2018]].[[/note]]




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