[[folder:Wanton Cruelty to Tribbles]]
* Okay ... at the end of "The Trouble with Tribbles", Scotty deals with the tribbles "humanely" (i.e. instead of killing them) by beaming the tribbles into the Klingons' engine room. Klingons being Klingons, don't you think it'd be a bit ''more'' humane to just beam them into space?
** [[Main.RuleOfFunny Yes]].
** Classic: Klingons and Tribbles hate each other for about the same reason Tribbles like humans. Tribbles can induce humans to like them; clearly, Klingons don't take whatever method they use any better than Kirk does.
** ''Deep Space Nine'': Worf states that Tribbles bring famine and plague. (Which isn't implausible, given their breeding and eating habits.) Speculation: the Tribble plague produced the evolutionary crisis which led to Klingons growing Mars-bar heads.
** They taste good too.
** Popplers?
** The tribbles became far more dangerous after they were injected with the [=DNA=] of Human Augments. That's why they turned from harmless fuzzballs into the Klingon-killing Fuzzballs of the Apocalypse.
*** More likely the Klingons blew up the Tribble homeworld's atmosphere.
*** ...That was a ''result'' of the above problems, not the cause of anything.
** Another problem is that this could very easily interpreted by the Klingons as a deliberate, unprovoked attack on one of their vessels. Given the nature of the tribbles, beaming hundreds of them into a battlecruiser's engine room is tantamount to sabotage, at least in the eyes of the Klingons.
*** Sabotage? Hell, they probably interpreted it as either a psychological weapon or a WMD.

[[folder:Captain Leeroy Jenkins]]
* It often bugs people when Cap'n Kirk beams down to the planet to investigate weird stuff in person. True, he's the hero of the piece and he's supposed to be Odysseus Main/InSpace. However ,the real world, any naval captain who constantly took such insane risks wouldn't be in command of a ship for long. In real navies, going ashore to investigate weird happenings is what [[Main/RedShirt junior officers]] and [[Main/SpaceMarine Marines]] are for.
** Dramatic necessity, natch. This one Just Bugged the writers too, so starting with TNG, they compromised and had the first officer lead away teams. But because ENT pre-dates the original series, they got to put Archer in as much danger as they liked.
** Kirk was just that kind of cowboy. No one ever accused him of an excess of self-restraint, as a lot of pregnant [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Green Space Babes]] could tell you.
** Pretty much all Star Trek series are guilty of this. There's a particularly telling scene in Enterprise when Trip, the chief engineer has to go fix an engineering problem in a conduit that can hold 2, and he takes the Science Officer, T'Pol, rather than a member of his Engineering staff. Sure, she's smart but they're ENGINEERS. In other scenes, an Ensign is left in charge of the flagship of Starfleet while the senior officers beam down to investigate something. I've had it put to me that the bridge crew go on away missions so often because they have the most experience but my response to that is that it's not a oleplayingGame and they're not [=DnD=] adventurers!
*** Then again, Trip would happily use any flimsy excuse to be stuck in a narrow Jeffries tube with T'Pol.
** In the modern navy, sure, he wouldn't. On the other hand, Captain James Cook did. On the gripping hand, that's probably why he got killed in Hawaii...
** Star Trek is more like the navies of the 19th century. Read about what Captain Fitzroy and science attaché Darwin got up to during a 5 year mission aboard the Beagle. Yes, that Darwin.
** What made it really stupid is that he usually took his XO along.
** The above were all pointed out by Creator/DavidGerrold in his 1973 book ''The World Of Star Trek'', and his idea of the "Away Team" was implemented on TNG.

[[folder: Would the coffee have turned evil?]]
* In "The Enemy Within" why ''couldn't'' they beam down a hot pot of coffee? Also as a last resort, why not beam the landing party and keep them suspended in transport until they find a solution. Even if they couldn't figure out what to do, wouldn't it be more humane to have them be in non existence instead of freezing to death?
** I'm fairly certain that they hadn't come up with the ''keeping them in the pattern buffer'' technique yet - or at least hadn't perfected it to the point you would get any substantial benefit out of it. As far as I am aware Scotty is the first man to canonically succeed (after the Jenolan crashes into a Dyson Sphere) and that was a good twenty years later. Further backing this up is the fact that this process ends up killing a RedShirt which would imply a) A fatality rate of 50% and b) Laforge wouldn't have been so amazed that Scotty was able to jury rig up such a device if it was a technique with precedent to it.
*** Yeah, that since the incident was --in-universe-- anywhere between twenty to forty years before the Jenolan crashed. That is more than enough time for there to be equipment advances that would make it even slightly possible. There seems to have been a massive improvement in engineering and equipment in all aspects between TOS and TMP-refit era so chances are it was something that went from impossible to just about possible in theory but you'd have to be really desperate to try.
*** In an easily overlooked example, ''seven'' people beam up at once at the end of "The City on the Edge of Forever". Assuming only one transporter room, someone must have been held for at least a few minutes before being reconstructed on the other end.
*** "Day of the Dove", a third-season TOS episode, features transporter stasis. Granted, it's still a few years after "The Enemy Within", but the technology is basically the same. Then again, nobody thought to evacuate the away team via shuttlecraft either, despite the Enterprise having had a shuttlebay since "The Cage". (The "flight deck" as it was called then was in the original script.)
*** The Klingons in "Day of the Dove" are only held in suspension for about a minute. Even in the 24th century, it's considered unsafe to hold anyone in the buffer for more than a few minutes before pattern breakdown starts to occur. The away team in "The Enemy Within" would have to be suspended in transport for several hours, which is ''definitely'' unsafe.
** The trouble with transporter problems as seen in TOS is that all malfunctions turn out to have dangerously unpredictable effects [[note]]read: predictably fatal[[/note]] so they might try beaming down hot coffee but it might turn into a cloud of flesh stripping plasma on re-integration. Plus, IIRC, Scotty had the transporter offline as he was testing the hell out of it to try and find out what was wrong and how to fix it. It is very probable that the time taken to put it back online and then take it offline again to begin testing was time they felt the away team just didn't have. The TOS Enterprise only has one transporter remember. Limited resources with limited time mean they have to take a gamble on something. If they'd beamed down supplies and coffee then people would be on here asking "how come they wasted time by interrupting Scotty's testing to beam down supplies when the away team were coping by heating rocks". They weren't comfortable, but they were still surviving after all.

[[folder:Gary gets clocked]]
* In "Assignment: Earth", Gary is impervious to the Vulcan Neck pinch, yet Roberta can take him out by clocking him on the head? What?
** One is a nerve attack, which Gary can be trained to withstand and/or genetically engineered to have protection against. The other is a concussion-inducing blunt force demonstration of Sir Issac Newton's 3rd Law of Motion (combined with Pascal's Law). There is a difference.

[[folder:Kirk's Dark Side Has Amnesia?]]
* At the end of the episode "The Enemy Within", Rand tells Kirk about something his negative half did and he seems surprised. Uh, his positive and negative sides have been joined back together, so shouldn't he have the combined memories of both?
** Is it possible he was faking surprise?
** His negative half seemed to have a primitive mind, like an animal or a very young child. Could be that Bad Kirk's capacity for consciousness and memory formation was also affected?
** Also, Kirk didn't technically exist while his two good-evil clones were running around doing their thing. When the transporter mixed them back together, it had to smash their separate memories together into a single memory covering the same period of time. Since the two patterns would've been so different, they probably just cancelled each other out and left the mental equivalent of static.
*** Also, he may have preferred to block out memories of the worst of his negative half's actions, for obvious reasons.
*** Or, he's trying to be a gentleman and spare Rand's feelings. Even if Kirk ''does'' remember what his negative half did, it doesn't do Rand any good to bring it up outside of a counseling context (and may in fact further intimidate her). She's got to be having second thoughts about serving aboard the ''Enterprise'' (if not Starfleet in general) at this point.
*** Or he was trying to maintain the facade that Evil!Kirk was an imposter and not part of him.
*** I'm ashamed of you all.
--> '''Evil Kirk (early in the episode):''' I said gimme the BRANDY!!!

[[folder:Kirk and Spock... They're Just Friends, Honest!]]
* Possibly a prime example of "One {{Troper}}'s {{Squee}} is another troper's {{Squick}}, but ''what'' is up with all the K/S shipping. To me it seems like CanonDefilement of the worst kind.
** That was my reaction for a long time, but now it either makes sense, or I'm desensitized to it. I think it's about their enduring, rock solid friendship. After all, I presume K/S fics aren't just one of them dropping trou and begging the other for penis. Quite a few of them are probably IfItsYouItsOkay.
*** Actually, quite a few of them ''are'' the first thing you said.
** You do realize this sounds a little homophobic, don't you? If you were talking about, for example, Kirk/Uhura, you wouldn't call it CanonDefilement. It's just some fans seeing romance where others don't. It's natural for any fandom.
*** I think the fact that you even brought it up when there was no reason for you to do is telling of how well-known the pairing is. It [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series created the whole]] [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/History_of_Slash_Fandom modern slash fan fic subgenre]] and is one of the most popular pairings more than 40 years later. It's highly ambiguous and there does seem to be a reasonable amount of subtext which leaves this all open for interpretation. In any case, all works of fiction are open for interpretation. And even though you wouldn't be able to convince many people Spock and Uhura is TOS canon, I wouldn't call Abrams' addition of it in his universe "canon defilement".
*** Besides, it's traditional by now. [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/SlashTerminology The need to describe the Kirk/Spock pairing]] is the TropeNamer for SlashFic.
*** It's possible to be squicked out purely by the CanonDefilement aspect of that ship without any implication of homophobia; if it's any consolation there are definitely gay Trek fans out there who find this pairing unsettling for that reason.
*** Including gay screenwriter [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/David_Gerrold David Gerrold]], who [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_K/S_Fandom_by_David_Gerrold loathes it]] with the [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Open_Letter_to_K/S_Fandom_by_David_Gerrold#Views_Unchanged:_2013 burning passion]] [[https://www.facebook.com/david.gerrold/posts/10201196256560847 of a thousand suns]].
*** Sure, but the fact that some gay people hate the pairing doesn't mean that there's no homophobia in the disproportionate amount of disgust it gets from some parts of fandom. I mean, you can disagree about whether or not that's a reasonable interpretation of their relationship in canon without finding the whole idea utterly disgusting...and if you do find it utterly disgusting, maybe do a little thinking about why that's the case, because from here it makes you look homophobic.
*** Given Kirk's practically a notorious womaniser anyway, it wouldn't be all too out of character for him if not for her [Uhura] to engage in such a pairing. (Granted their one kiss was forced by aliens, but that hasn't stopped main characters from ending up together in [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross at least one other show]].) Uhura also seems pretty much a straight gal. But neither Kirk nor Spock are obviously bisexual to a casual audience, and most of the non-gay audience in the '60s would even have expected such.
*** Regarding the "homophobia" accusation, there is also the easy-to-make assumption that since MostFanficWritersAreGirls, one can chalk up most SlashFic to the YaoiFangirl brigade. It seems perfectly acceptable to get offended by the GirlOnGirlIsHot thing without being called a "homophobe", but not the other way round; yet such unlikely pairings appear essentially the gender-inversion for some of us. It's still bad stereotyping (not least ignoring the gay male fanfic authors who seem in part to have been responsible for the whole thing), of course, but there you go. Furthermore, Kirk/Spock has pretty much been done to death.
** Blame ''Saturday Night Live'', their geriatric Trek sketch helped start it.
*** The slashing actually started while the original series was still airing. While the first fanzine devoted to K/S was published in 1976, individual stories date all the way back to 1968. [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Timeline_of_K/S_Fandom More here]].
** Two guys, one a ChivalrousPervert playboy hero and the other an emotionally desensitized telepathic Woobie, who run around saving one another's lives, sharing charming banter, failing at all of their romantic relationships, pressing their hands together through transparent-but-insurmountable barriers, and spending the majority of their screen time with each other... whether or not you feel that it's CanonDefilement, it's not like you can't see where the slash fans would get their ideas from.
** K/S has only a thin canonical basis (but it's not hard to see how people might get the idea, like when Edith Keeler tells Spock that he belongs "At [Kirk's] side, as if you've always been there and always will"), but it's quite understandable to me that fans starved for any representation of alternative sexuality in Franchise/StarTrek gravitate towards this brand of textual poaching (to borrow Henry Jenkins' term).
*** Slash wasn't about representation of alternative sexuality, inclusion or visibility. It was by straight women who thought GuyOnGuyIsHot and had their ShippingGoggles set to maximum looking for the least indication of HoYay.
*** So representations of homosexuality that turn on (these specific) straight women are innately illegitimate? Is that what you're saying?
*** I didn't write the comment you are replying to, but I thought that I would give my two cents. One of the more controversial debates in certain quarters of the LGBT community over the years is whether it is right or wrong for heterosexuals to have any sort of fantasy or fetish for gays or lesbians - I believe that may be the sort of sentiment being got at here. I personally do not agree as I think that having fantasies and fetishes is all very well and good as long as no one is harmed by it, but I suppose some people think that the image of the LGBT community is being harmed by the portrayal of homosexual love purely for the enjoyment of the heterosexual viewer. On the flip side of course, the amount of heterosexuals (men in particular) who find the concept of the same sex finding them attractive disgusting, it seems that there must be similar discussions on both sides in different forms for different reasons.
** Sorry to break it to you with your claim of CanonDefilement but Gene Roddenberry went on record as saying that he would have made Kirk and Spock gay if he could have got away with it. Back in the 1960's not even the man who screened the first inter-racial kiss in history could get around the homosexuality taboo. If you re-watch the series with this is mind the subtext suddenly makes infinitely more sense when you realize he was deliberately writing them this way.
*** This is probably another example of Roddenberry RetConning. He was initially looking for a way to bring audience attention back on Shatner, who was getting pissed that Nimoy was getting ten times the fan mail he was. It was [[http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/getting-star-trek-on-air-was-impossible.html Isaac Asimov who suggested that Roddenberry portray the two as friends]] so that Spock fans would pay attention to Kirk. It's a pretty safe bet that Roddenberry was talking out his ass in the book you're quoting from (which is the now-forgotten ''[[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Shatner:_Where_No_Man Where No Man]]'', a 1979 bio of Shat written by [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Sondra_Marshak Sondra Marshak]] and Myrna Culbreath, a couple of [[AynRand Objectivist]] devotees who had some of the most bizarre ideas ever in ST fandom). Be that as it may, learning about slash gave Roddenberry himself the idea to include the "t'hy'la" business in his novel for ''Star Trek: The Motion Picture''. Fans who had never heard of slash discovered it through that infamous footnote. Also, Roddenberry himself was apparently accused of being gay as a child because he didn't fit the "[[ARealManIsAKiller real man]]" stereotype of his dad's culture. According to Creator/GeorgeTakei, he was very supportive of real gays.
** Not to mention that Star Trek is a FreeLoveFuture according to WordOfGod.
*** Which (both realistically and in context) need not imply that everyone does everything with everyone else, simply that they ''can'' (without becoming social pariahs or worse). For a FreeLoveFuture, the Trek franchise in practice is pretty conservative.
*** David Gerrold did say (in Shat's 2015 documentary film ''Chaos on the Bridge''), that in the TNG episode on Risa, Roddenberry asked if they could show gay and Lesbian couples kissing and making out along with the straight ones in that world.
** An important point as well is that slash fans didn't necessarily see something that sprang out of thin air. Rather, they were seeing the ghost of something that was once meant to be explicitly canon -- sexual tension between a first officer and the captain. Originally, the show would have centered around Captain Pike and his logical first (and female) officer, Number One, who had romantic feelings for him. When Pike was replaced with Kirk and Spock took Number One's place after the executives got involved, though, the remnants of that relationship still lingered. Additionally, some of the writers for Trek did write stories sympathetic to homosexuality, even in a time as prejudiced against gay people as the 60s was. The most prominent is Theodore Sturgeon who wrote "The World Well Lost" which depicts the love Grunty holds for Rootes -- his Captain who is described as a "arrogant, loquacious womanizer." Sound familiar? Sturgeon wrote "Amok Time" as well as "Shore Leave" -- both of which contain clear homosexual subtext, such as Kirk trying to get a backrub out of Spock. Given that "The World Well Lost" was published in 1953, it's likely that Gene Roddenberry was aware of Sturgeon's views. And, as has been pointed out on this very wiki, Roddenberry himself coined the term t'hy'la to describe Spock and Kirk's relationship -- meaning "friend, brother, lover." And given that Vulcan is a fantasy language and constructed, there was no need for Roddenberry to include the word "lover" as part of the definition. That's not to say that people can't find it Squicky, but to say it is CanonDefilement is a but much, I would say because, in canon at least, there's little doubt that Kirk and Spock do love each other. They may not be in love, of course, but they are clearly among the most important people in each other's lives. And given that neither of them have shown an opposition to same-sex relations, it wouldn't be out of character necessarily for them to fall in love.
*** [[http://fanlore.org/wiki/Amok_Time Sturgeon didn't write Amok Time alone]], however. He based it on an original idea by Roddenberry and Coon, and his outline was passed around for many, many rewrites by Roddenberry, Coon, Fontana, Justman, Solow, NBC program director Stan Robertson and Kellam-Deforest Research team Peter Sloman and Joan Pierce -- who threw out half of what Sturgeon wrote! We don't know who wrote what. What we ''do'' know is that Vulcan was originally conceived by Sturgeon as a B&D culture, with women "absolutely owned" and giving "absolute obedience"!
** It also doesn't help that the two of them are basically ConfirmedBachelor[=s=]. Kirk may become infatuated with the GirlOfTheWeek, but he never seems to even think about them afterward unless (as with Dr. Carol Marcus) he happens to run into them again at a later date. Spock has also had some brief liaisons, but these never seem to go anywhere either. So their closest and most enduring relationship remains with each other (with a little [=McCoy=] on the side). Even though they often go off on separate career paths by the time of the movies, they still gravitate towards each other. Hence it is very easy to read HoYay into their relationship. Unless you are a firm believer in NoBisexuals, it is not hard to speculate that they are essentially a couple in an open relationship due to mutual aversion to commitment.

[[folder:The Gorn Had It Coming]]
* So in the TOS episode "Arena," are the writers seriously trying to make us believe there's any moral equivalency between Kirk and the Gorn? Do they actually think the wholesale slaughter of all colonists, including women and children, ''while they're trying to surrender'' and begging for their lives, is a perfectly reasonable and understandable response to people encroaching, knowingly or not, on your territory? Adding this to the fact that the Gorns then lured the ''Enterprise'' to the planet and ambushed them, Kirk was right in trying to destroy them.
** You have to remember that this show was made in the hippie era with its mantra of "[[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim killing is wrong, man]]".
*** Actually, no. "Arena" was based, anti-killing principles and Incredibly Advanced Beings intact, on [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_%28short_story%29 a short story written by Fredric Brown]] in ''1944''. The show's on-air debut in late '66 coincided with the beginnings of the hippie era, but it had been in development, writing and filming for almost three years before that.
** Considering how the being who set up the scenario considered a ''Celebrity Deathmatch'' to be a valid way of judging which race is more worthy, it's abundantly clear it was a JerkAss whose judgement had no connection to morality.
*** But it wasn't the being who set up the battle between Kirk and the Gorn captain who suggested that the Gorn had a legitimate grievance--it was Kirk who suggested that maybe the Federation had accidentally encroached on Gorn territory.
*** For the most part, I think the implication is that the Gorn didn't understand humans well enough to know what was going on, and didn't realize they were trying to surrender. They saw an armed outpost of strange furry creatures in their territory, they attacked it, the creatures attacked them right back, so it must be a military incursion. The problem with this is that amazingly faked, fully interactive message the Gorn sent to the Enterprise, which the rest of the episode ignores. If I had to justify it, I'd say the Gorn have computers as advanced as the TNG-era Federation, capable of running complex simulations with just a vague instruction. The Gorn captain may have said something like "computer, lure that alien ship here" and the ship's computer did so by creating a fake message.
*** Kirk is only conceding that there may have been a legitimate greivance behind the conflict, not that the Gorn were justified in their actions on Cestus III. He is taking a diplomatic approach in trying to resolve the conflict at large - after all he's been told that the Gorn ship is seeing (and most likely recording) every word.
*** It could easily be seen as an attempt at ValuesDissonance, with the Gorn trying to protect their space from armed invaders that are seemingly superior to them in many ways. The fake transmission could have easily been assembled from intercepted messages that the colony sent out, and it is possible that the Enterprise was lured to Cestus 3 in hopes of taking out a powerful enemy ship, or at least it's Captain, in a surprise attack in hopes of driving off the invaders.
** Another possibility is that the Gorn did not understand that children could be considered off-limits to attack. Many reptile species do not have a concept of parental care; the young hatch as miniature adults already equipped to survive on their own. As for ignoring the surrender messages, they were probably just as incomprehensible to the Gorn as "grr hisssss grr grr hisssssss" would be to humans.
** Yes, all in all it may be a simple case of culture clash rather than ValuesDissonance or hippie attitudes. The Gorn is after all, alien. Not only that, but everything that happened maybe on the head of the overzealous Gorn captain himself. It's said in some supplementary martials that the Gorn government as a whole is actually very peaceful. And that after the Cestus III incident, the Gorn captain was severely reprimanded for his overzealous handling of the situation.
** Hmmm... originally written in 1944, hyper-aggressive enemy defeated by intelligence, perseverance and bravery, but not destroyed as part of a moral plea that killing the defenseless is wrong. Couldn't be either in reference to or influenced by [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/WorldWarII something that was going on at the time]], could it?

[[folder:Anti-Vulcan Discrimination?]]
* I know it was the 60's and all, but every time I watch TOS, I am stunned by the casual bigotry that the human members of the Enterprise crew display towards Spock. The backhanded comments about his Vulcan background and culture are not only constant (I'm looking at you [=McCoy=]), but completely unremarked upon by Kirk, not only the authority figure, but Spock's supposed BFF. I mean seriously WTF? And, if you want to chalk that up to Values Dissonance, fine, but how about the way the Enterprise crew behaves towards T'Pol? Yes, the Vulcan GOVERNMENT has been a bit patronising towards humanity (for good reason from what I can tell by watching the series), but T'Pol never did anything to them. Why is it okay for the crewmembers to have an open dislike towards her just because she's Vulcan? Isn't this the humanity of the 22nd century that's evolved past all that? That wouldn't be cool in our backwards 21st century culture.
** When it comes to [=McCoy=] comments, that's just the way that the Spock-[=McCoy=] friendship expresses itself. In various episodes, [=McCoy=] shows that he truly DOES care about Spock, but to an outsider, their way of interaction implies that they don't like one another. As for T'Pol, the Enterprise crew was meant to be a more 'they're like us' crew than the crews we'd seen before. T'Pol is basically the designated target for the crew, being a Vulcan, who are the ones responsible for 'holding humanity back,' on a ship full of humans. The fact that it's not right is the whole point - it's human behavior that we DO engage in, even today, even when we know it's wrong to do so.
*** Yeah, but if I had an ongoing relationship with a co-worker which involved me referring to them using racial abuse and slang all the time, I don't think I'd get very far with the HR dept by saying 'that's just how we express ourselves, we're friends really'.
*** Kirk was the captain, and he was close friends with both Spock and Bones. If the captain says it's okay, then it's okay. In order for it to become an issue, someone would have to care. There seem to be no other Vulcans on the ''Enterprise,'' so they're not around to object, and maybe the humans just don't care, or don't think it's their place to say anything.
*** Large organisations like the military or big companies just don't work like that, not even today never mind in our enlightened tolerant future. Try going to a modern warship and have the chief medical officer routinely call the single black officer on the ship, who happens to be the first officer, a 'Black skinned, inhuman freak, etc, etc' as a term of 'endearment' and see how long it lasts, irrespective of whether he's offended by it or the Captain says 'it's okay'. Firstly no Captain would say that and if they did they would probably end up in an enquiry as well.
*** That's not really a fair comparison. For one thing, Spock ''is'' inhuman. For another, there's hundreds and hundreds of years of black-white relations to be considered in the real world, whereas Vulcans and humans have been living side by side peacefully for centuries (at least until ''Enterprise'' fucked it up, but that doesn't count). And Vulcans in general aren't even capable of ''being'' offended, or at least strive not to be.
*** Spock is, in fact, half human. Much of [=McCoy=]'s disagreement with Spock stems from Spock's rejection of his own humanity. On the occasions when he meets full-blooded Vulcans, [=McCoy=] is properly respectful and polite. For that matter, Spock pulls no punches when it comes to criticizing his human crewmates for their humanity.
*** Could be that [=McCoy=] has NWordPrivileges with Spock, and Spock has told Kirk that if it's [=McCoy=] then it's okay, since the two have a "give as good as you get" rivalry going. That would explain why Kirk jumps on Stiles so quick despite letting [=McCoy=] get away with it for so long.
** You should try watching Enterprise, Trip and Archer engage in a four year long game of "who hates Vulcans the most?" with occasional
** As for your question about T'Pol, Archer and Tucker may have been dicks to her (no one else seemed to have that much of a problem with her being Vulcan) but she was pretty racist herself. Criticizing our omnivorous diet because it goes against Vulcan morality (suddenly they're all vegetarians, a fact which Spock and Tuvok and Saavik and all the others never mentioned) ''in the same scene where she chides Archer and Tucker to stop applying their morality to alien species.'' All that stuff about the smell. Pissing on Hoshi, who never did anything anti-Vulcan to her, unlike Archer and Tucker, and generally being obnoxious all around.
*** A minor nitpick here, but Vulcans have been vegetarians since at least the animated series. It is a plot point in "The Slaver Weapon".
*** Even earlier, in "All Our Yesterdays," it is a plot point that Spock eats meat in the past due: "I have eaten animal flesh and I’ve enjoyed it."
*** Why stop there? In "The City on the Edge of Forever," Kirk gets the groceries: "Mister Spock, I've brought you some assorted vegetables, baloney and a hard roll for myself." It's pretty clear that Spock was conceived as a vegetarian almost from inception.
* As Uhura nicely noted: "In our century, we've learned not to fear words."
** This is a fairly likely (and succinct) explanation. Racism, sexism and so forth are still active in our time and our efforts to refute them are a bit over-loud due to the enthusiasm of the converted. In 2013 I can accuse somebody of being "a sorceror" and my fellow villagers will '''not''' immediately rush out with torch and pitchfork to burn the person I speak to as a suspected pawn of the Devil: Trek's future society is apparently so free of racism/misogyny/etc. that the old accusing terms are only used as farce.
*** This has always been my opinion too; it would explain why the women are happy to spend their day wearing miniskirts and thigh high boots, why by the start of the Next Generation men are also allowed to wear skirts if they feel like it and why Troi and Seven of Nine have no problem wearing those tight bodysuits on a mostly male starship. They simply have a different idea of what discrimination and harassment is in the future and as long as you don't ''genuinely'' believe blacks/women/aliens are inferior and are simply making a joke; no one really much cares. You will see this again later on in the comic relief episodes surrounding Worf and Quark.
*** Except that unless you're telepathic there ''is'' no way to tell whether someone "genuinely" believes it or not... which in the particular context of Spock and [=McCoy=] might explain it, but we see in DS9 that O'Brien at least has some racism towards Cardassians, iirc, and there was that quarter-Romulan crewman in TNG who was apparently considered inherently suspicious by virtue of that fact, so it's not like bigotry has magically disappeared in the Federation.
*** O'Brien is a ''terrible'' example as he fought a war against the Cardassians and lost many friends. The effects of war don't automatically vacate your brain when ''someone else'' signs a treaty - no offence, but only people whose experience of war is limited to Hollywood and video games think that. If you have ever asked a grandfather what they think of the Germans or the Japanese after all of these years have passed, you will probably get a similar response. Note that I am not implying that all veterans cannot let go and become seething balls of unrestrained racism, I'm saying that it is foolish to think that watching a friend get blown to bits in front of you is something that won't leave a mental scar. As for the Tarsis in ''The Drumhead'', it was less to do with being part Romulan, and more to do with the fact that he lied on his application form and the prosecuting judge turned out to be a paranoid and controlling nutter who saw conspiracies everywhere.
* Whether this justifies it or not is one thing, but I believe a major reason for the verbalized anti-Vulcan attitudes, especially in the original show, is that it's a quasi-natural way to keep bringing up ''that Spock is an alien'' (and an alien who is non-humanlike in personality). Sort of an InformedAbility thing (except that Spock already looks alien). Like if they always started sentences with "Here in the 23rd century..." And after the first few ant-Vulcan insults, it just became standard script-filler.
* You've all utterly missed the point. [=McCoy=] is a humanitarian. This puts him at odds with Spock immediately, because Spock rejects his personal philosophy as "emotional." As a Vulcan, he has been raised in a world where displays of emotion are treated like someone in our world stumbling around town day and night with their shirt hanging open, hefting a liquor bottle in one hand and clutching their crotch with the other. [=McCoy=] is offended that his devotion to caring about those around him is treated this way by Spock, and so he, being proud of his heritage and philosophy, takes every chance he gets to defend them.
** ... by calling him things like "pointy-eared hobgoblin". Yeah, really making the "emotional" philosophy look good there, doctor.
* It should be pointed out that Spock slings it right back fairly often. Note his vocal disgust every time he's compared to a human in any way, or his constant comments about how humans are irrational, illogical, and uncivilized. In fact, anti-human racism is implied to be a pretty ugly, widespread sentiment among Vulcans. ''Yesteryear'', the only episode of the animated series that is almost universally considered canon, shows Spock being tormented by other Vulcan children for being half human--the 2009 film shows them being even more horribly cruel than they were in ''Yesteryear''. It's taken to absurd extremes in ''Film/StarTrekVTheFinalFrontier'', when Spock's father expressed disappointment in his his minutes-old, newborn son for being too human; which, just...Jesus ''Christ!''
* Spock and [=McCoy=] are VitriolicBestBuds - we should note that Spock in the first place does not seem to be really offended by [=McCoy=]'s jibes, while reacting to slurs (by other characters, e.g. Evil!Kirk in The Enemy Within) which are really ''meant'' as such. Also - [=McCoy=] scores quite a lot of {{Insult Backfire}}s, as [[TheSpock Spock]] is actually ''glad'' to hear that he's "utterly emotionless and governed by logic alone".

[[folder:Spock's Got the Timey Wimey Ball]]
* In a late season 3 episode when Kirk, Bones and Spock get sent to a planet's past, we learn that everyone wasn't modified (or something) before they were sent through the time travel thing. So if that's the case why did Spock start acting like an emotional Vulcan?
** There was some HandWave about temporal potential energy or something, wasn't there? I'm guessing the modifications were to prevent changes like that.
** Each Vulcan has a faint telepathic connection to all other Vulcans, no matter how distant. When Spock was sent to the 'distant' past, he was connecting with the primitive Vulcans (before they learned to control their emotions) and in response started becoming more primitive himself.

[[folder:Edith Keeler Banned from the Future?]]
* ''City on the Edge of Forever'': in the simplified manner in which time travel and its consequences via the Guardian was presented to the viewers, it should have at least entered Kirk's or Spock's mind some time in the weeks they were there that [[spoiler:perhaps they could have taken her with them instead of letting her die]]. Maybe the Guardian would have been a JerkAss and disallowed it, or maybe it could have been a timeline-altering move, but what Bugs Me is that (unless I missed it) [[IdiotBall the possibility wasn't addressed]], even though Kirk would [[spoiler:ostensibly have been trying to think of some way to avert the tragedy. A perfectly good TearJerker]] ruined by my ability to over-think. Hrmph.
** Possibly even just her disappearance would cause changes to the future--who can know for sure? How bad would it be for Kirk to save her, then find out that it was necessary for her to actually die, and have to ''take her back to kill her''.
** We don't see the method by which they get back. One moment they're weeping on the street, the next they're just coming back to the Guardian's planet side of the Guardian. It probably only opened a portal when there was no possibility of the timeline being skewed again.
** Likewise, the future had already been changed before they left, so, due to the way the Guardian's portal works, they probably couldn't return to their own future until after Edith had died. They had to restore the past to make the portal lead back to the Enterprise.
** The impression I got was that they never had the chance to really plan. She's killed only seconds after they reunite with [=McCoy=], before they have a chance to do anything.
** It seems there would have been a lot of things they could have done. Be honest and explain the situation to her? It would be hard to believe but Spock does have that thing rigged up with video of the future of humanity on it, including the German victory. Conceal the truth but try to reason her out of her position? "I know war is bad, but the Nazis have been slaughtering millions of people like animals. Don't we have a moral responsibility to try to stop that?" Spock could show her the concentration camps with his TV thing. Failing that, kidnap her and use the Guardian to dump her in the middle of Outer Mongolia or Sub-Saharan Africa? Or maybe on an uninhabited South Sea island? They could provide her with a few years supply of food and water and fetch her once the war is over. She still might die, but at least she would have a fighting chance. In fact, they wouldn't even need an island. Just keep her locked in a basement for the duration of the war. They could stay in the past for a little while and make sure she was fed and relatively comfortable. She'd despise Kirk, but at least she'd be alive to hate him.
** Odds are, though, that trying to adjust the timeline to allow her to live would've caused even bigger problems. That's the way such things seem to work.
** Remember it was NOT Edith's death that changed anything - it was her actions in life had she been saved, which is a different thing. If she had simply vanished from the world that night rather than dying, would it plausibly have kept America out of World War II?! Also worth bearing in mind, a guy stole [=McCoy=]'s phaser off him and then disintegrated himself with it. So no matter what Kirk and Spock did, or the Guardian for that matter, the future they returned to was different to the original one. If such small differences are allowable, why not the manner of her removal from history?
*** Why are small changes allowed? [[SarcasmMode because they are small.]] Small scale collateral damage vs the end of the world as we know it is not a hard decision. A lot of people also seem to be forgetting the episode ''Tomorrow Is Yesterday'' and the character of Captain John Christopher. Kirk has already had to face the ramifications of removing someone from history and it is rather unbelievable that this experience isn't at least partially influencing him here.

* Author Allan Asherman, in the book "The 'Star Trek' Compendium", figures that, if Edith Keeler were to learn that she was responsible for millions of deaths, she'd have probably jumped in front of that truck on her own initiative.

[[folder:Balok's Puppet... Brr...]]
* Why did they need to have that horrific still image of Balok's puppet in the end credits of the original series?
** You have a show about fighting space aliens. Your end credits show exciting stills from previous episodes. Puppet!Balok is the most alien, most threatening-looking creature your show has put on air. That's why.
** Producer Robert Justman was known for being a jokester; the credit accompanying the image of Balok is that of Desilu executive Herb Solow. It was probably funnier at the time.
** It's actually the "Desilu" name (Lucille Ball's production company) that appears across the head of Balok's puppet in the closing credits (maybe in later episodes it was Solow's). I had always assumed it was an intentional visual joke, in that in other Desilu productions you would been shown Lucille Ball's glamorous cartoon head - the shape of the two heads being roughly similar.

[[folder:Spock's Fabulous Makeup]]
* I just wanna know why Spock cakes his eyeshadow on like that. Oh, honey, you'd better be grateful you've [[strike:almost]] got the bone structure to work that. Seriously, is that supposed to be natural, or do Vulcans consider thick eyeshadow to be a unisex sort of thing? And if it's natural, why isn't it green?
** Because Spock is half-human, duh, which probably screws up his pigmentation.
** Seriously? Because they put make-up on him to try and indicate that he was brown-with-green-underneath rather than brown-with-pink-in-some-places. Troubles with the day-to-day make-up jobs were a large part of the reason why there weren't more alien-looking aliens on TOS. Unfortunately, it just came off like he was trying to be illogically Fabulous.
** Not to mention that many if not most people were still watching the show on black and white televisions when it first came out. Lighting, contrast, etc. are all entirely different. Not only does the show have to look good on both types of televisions, there's the issue of makeup artists adjusting their techniques to compensate.
*** Plus the fact that even people watching on color TV at that time were not seeing what you are today with the "remastered" episodes on your HDTV.
*** Here's the problem with the Vulcans; despite all their protests to the contrary they operate on a brand of twisted own-brand logic that makes sense only to them. A few examples would include the the Pon Farr ceremony where the men are forced to fight with axes and the women are forced to stand around whilst they are dished out like property (and yes ''property'' is the term T'Pau uses in ''Amok Time'') or the whole Katra ritual in ''Search For Spock'' that looks like some kind of garish Vegas stage production or T'Pol being issued a standard issue asset enhancing catsuit by her government. Personally I can absolutely believe there was a male eyeshadow fashion on Vulcan for a couple of years in the 23rd century that they justified to themselves as being logical somehow.
*** Hell, it was the style for both sexes in ancient Egypt, so why not?
*** That explanation is probably ''the'' most logical: it was the style in Egypt because it helped them deal with the glare from the sun, it being a desert country. And Vulcan is a desert ''planet''. Since simple measures taken to deal with the environment (e.g. the reason clothes exist at all) become cultural, it makes perfect sense that Vulcans would wear eye makeup as a matter of course even offworld. Habit, tradition, and not feeling right without it.

[[folder:Thanks for the Memories, Uhura]]
* In "The Changeling" Uhura has her entire memory erased by the space probe Nomad. She is then simply re-educated and this event is never referenced again. What about her family? What about her life? She's just lost everything she ever was and they just re-instruct her on her abc's and send her back to work? Not even a letter home to her parents to let them know that their daughter is effectively dead?
** [[ValuesDissonance Eh, she's a woman.]] [[RefugeInAudacity As long as she keeps her baby-making equipment, nothing of value was lost.]]
** She might have just been hit with aphasia rather than amnesia (which would kinda make sense: Nomad was probably lots more interested in deep-scanning her technical skills than her personal experiences). So Uhura might've had all her memories intact, but she had to be retaught how to speak, read, write and so on so that she could express them again. She seemed exactly like her old self in later episodes and the movies, so however they did it, they did completely restore her.
** The earlier draft of the script, as well as the later novelization by James Blish, specifies this.
** Notice how quickly she was reeducated. She was all better by the next episode, as I recall. Pretty good, considering she was starting from scratch (ie, kindergarten) and it presumably took about twenty years for her to acquire her education the first time.
*** At one point in reeducating her, Chapel becomes flustered because Uhura is speaking to her in Swahili rather than English. Given the illogic of teaching her a language that no one else on the ship speaks while in the middle of a crisis, odds are that the aphasia theory is dead on and Swahili was simply relearned before English was.
** If Uhura kept any kind of diary that would help as well. Also, given that Spock has interacted with Uhura often (and heard all of her stories of family, home, etc.) and has a flawless memory, he could have assisted the process with a mind meld and either restored Uhura's memories directly or jumpstarted the process by which her mind would do so naturally. Restoring a highly-trained Starfleet specialist to her full mental faculties benefits the entire ship and, ultimately, the fleet (not to mention Uhura's loved ones). The personal violation a mind meld potentially represents is therefore a logical course of action. The needs of the many...

[[folder:This Universe Ain't Big Enough for the Both of Us]]
* In the TOS episode, The Alternative Factor, why was it necessary to trap both Lazaruses in the corridor between universes? Wouldn't destroying the ship and keeping the insane one prisoner have been sufficient? What happens if someone else develops the technology? Even if it was necessary, why did Kirk actually tell Spock and 2 security guards to "stay back" while he struggled to toss insane Lazarus into the portal? Wouldn't four guys have made the whole thing easier? Better yet, why not just stun him and throw him in?
** "The Alternative Factory"? I don't remember that episode.
** Typo. It was called "The Alternative Factor", it did have two Lazaruses, this troper has no answers to the above troper's questions because she hated that episode.
*** I knew that. I was making a (fairly lame) joke.

[[folder:Why No Yeomen Men?]]
* Is there some reason all of Kirk's yeomen are female? He had quite a few over the course of the series, so you'd think at least ''one'' would be a guy, wouldn't you?
** You are asking why ''Kirk'' would hire as many women as possible?
** In Corbomite Maneuver, Kirk is visibly annoyed by Rand's constant hovering, griping about the "headquarters genius" who assigned him a female yeoman. [=McCoy=] asks him if it's because Kirk doesn't trust himself with female yeomen around, to which he replies he already has a female to worry about, and her name is the Enterprise.
*** Counterpoint: The ''Enterprise'' does not have a vagina.
*** It's called the shuttle bay. :-P
*** That's a womb.
*** Ships on Earth are referred to as female. Ask any sailor. It makes sense that this would carry over to starships.
** The guys just didn't like the uniform.
** There is a male yeoman in "The Cage".

[[folder:Youngest Doctorate Ever?]]
* In "Where No Man Has Gone Before", Dr. Dehner's profile says that she's twenty-one. Are you ''kidding'' me? She has a doctorate ''at twenty-one''? What is she, a child prodigy? And although Sally Kellerman was around twenty-eight at time, she ''looked'' like she was in her thirties.
** Why ''shouldn't'' she have been a prodigy? Starfleet, especially in the TOS era, tried to staff the Enterprise with its best and brightest.
** The current Guinness world record holder for 'youngest university professor' is one Dr. Alia Sabur, age 18. She apparently obtained her doctorate in Materials Science Engineering from Drexel University at age 16.
** See the folder for Uhura's memory wipe. Using just the resources available aboard the ''Enterprise'' [=McCoy=] and whoever else Kirk delegated to handle the problem were able to educate Uhura from preschool to Starfleet Academy graduate status in just under a week; obviously education technology in the 23rd century is just a ''little'' bit more advanced than what we see today. Granted, Uhura's was a crash program put together as a result of an emergency (and doesn't address her OJT or experience in the position) but under regular conditions there's no reason why someone sufficiently talented couldn't earn a doctorate by twenty-one in the Trek universe (considering that it's also been done in 20th century Real Life).

[[folder:Chekov Hates the Letter V?]]
* Kind of a minor question: Why can't Chekov pronounce the letter V? There's three of them in his ''own name,'' and he pronounces them just fine when introducing himself. Then he suddenly loses the ability in every other word. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeekblLkx4g&feature=related Most egregious in the reboot]].
** Reaches wall banger status in a minor way when the computer is unable to understand Chekov giving his authorization code because of the "Wictors"... nevermind that he's using ''the phonetic alphabet'', which is specifically designed so that each letter sounds different regardless of pronunciation or interference.
** For whatever reason, Walter Koenig had a really odd idea what a Russian accent sounded like. The scene in the reboot is just a LampshadeHanging / MythologyGag.
*** He's on record as saying he was imitating his Russian/Lithuanian father's accent.
** To an extent there is a bit of TruthInTelevision though. Russian does not contain W sound, and Russians who don't bother with right pronounciation would avoid it. But those Russians (this troper included) who did learn this sound tend to forget (at first at least), that the letter V is also exist in English, and they replace all Vs with Ws. This troper used to say "woice" instead of "voice" just because the latter didn't sound English enough for her. Still it is strange in the case of Chekov, who daily deals with native english speakers and most likely would correct his mistake once he heard the right version.
** [[WildMassGuessing Maybe he has a speech impediment]]?
** How hard would it be to program the ''Enterprise'' main computer simply to recognize Chekov's voice and accent/speech impediment/whatever? If voiceprint technology is a major part of Starfleet's security protocols, then the computer would recognize that Chekov is speaking and (provided Chekov also gives the proper authorizations) be done with it. Even if Chekov were just recently transferred to the ship (as appears to be the case in the reboot) it's just a matter of telling Computer A to send Computer B the appropriate files.
** Concerning Chekov's name, being born and raised in Russia, his actual birth name should be "Павел Андреевич Чехов" (at least according to TheOtherWiki), with "Pavel Andreievich Chekov" being just the English transliteration, serving kind of as a pronunciation guide for anyone who can't read Cyrillic letters. The "v" of the Latin alphabet thus doesn't ''actually'' exist in Chekov's name.

[[folder: Rejecting Your Heritage is Illogical]]
* In TOS Spock always acts as though he's not half human. Remarks like "Your Earth" and puzzlement over human nature are common occurrences. Clearly he favors his Vulcan heritage over his human side, and there's nothing wrong with that. I have to wonder, though, how absent a parent would his mother had to have been for him to be completely befuddled by humanity? I can't think of any "logical" explanation for this other than he doesn't particularly like his human ancestry and deliberately plays it down at every opportunity.
** Given that many of the Star Trek movies, not just the reboot, have suggested he faced discrimination by other Vulcans, his own father spoke in disappointment at his birth saying “so Human” in Star Trek 5, he may have compensated and became a little self-loathing of his heritage. There are stories of African Americans who were able to hide their Black ancestry in the 19th 20th centuries joining White Supremacists groups and being some of the most hate filled members.
** Consider also that Spock's mother was sufficiently different from most other human women in that she'd consider a Vulcan man as a desirable long-term partner. Clearly, Amanda Grayson did not conform to the mold, and probably wasn't the best exemplar of human behavior. That doesn't even get into the fact that the rest of the people Spock interacted with from birth up to his entrance into Starfleet Academy were all Vulcans. His social skills, nonverbal communication, and understanding of customs and traditions are all informed by Vulcan influences. While he can understand the human side of his ancestry, it's the Vulcan side he's had more exposure to and feels more comfortable with.
** There's also the possibility that, given the volatile nature of Vulcan emotion, Spock was concerned that if he indulged his human emotions, he would not be able to restrain himself and he would cause trouble for not just his family, but for those around him. Remeber, the inability to control emotions is seen as a mental disorder on Vulcan, and in the past rampant emotionalism nearly destroyed their planet. That's a pretty strong stigma for a child to overcome.
** In RealLife, most people tend to identify with the culture they grew up in, even if one of their parents comes from a different one. Since Vulcans are not sentimental, Spock was likely to view his human ancestry purely as a matter of biology, and not of culture. He may not have even been to Earth prior to joining Starfleet, as we never see any indication that he has a relationship with Amanda's family. Add in the fact that Vulcan genes appear to be ''very'' dominant, to the extent that Spock's human physiology matches Vulcan norms rather than human ones, and he has every reason to feel detached from humanity and Earth.

[[folder: General Order 24]]
* In both "Whom Gods Destroy" and "A Taste of Armageddon", General Order 24 is referred to; it's an order for a starship to exterminate all life on a given planet. Kirk even gives this order. Doesn't the existence of General Order 24 seem ''extremely'' brutal for Starfleet?
** Most militaries keep orders for ''every'' possible contingency on hand, even if they don't intend on actually ''using'' them. Case in point: the United States actually had [[http://strategytheory.org/military/us/joint_board/Estimate%20of%20the%20Situation%20-%20Red%20and%20Tentative%20Joint%20Basic%20Plan%20-%20Red.pdf an invasion plan for Canada in the 1930's]] which wasn't declassified until ''1974'' (although it hadn't been updated since 1939). And given the enemies Starfleet has run across just from what we've seen with the ''Enterprise'' (and there are ''twelve'' Constitution-class starships all running the same five-year mission) it makes sense. Honestly, if Kirk were to run across something like [[Series/BabylonFive Z'Ha'Dum]] or [[Film/{{Alien}} LV-426]] what ''else'' would you expect him to do? ("Operation: Annihilate!" actually sets up such a situation and Kirk does entertain GO 24 until an alternate solution is found). As the series itself demonstrates on numerous occasions, a simple quarantine isn't enough for some threats.
** Deterrence, possibly. The Klingons and the Romulans wouldn't hesitate to exterminate the population of a planet if it served their agenda, so to prevent them for doing so, the Federation has to make it known that Starfleet is willing and able to respond in kind.

[[folder: Here's to Captain Dunsel]]
* If the M-5 computer in "The Ultimate Computer" could be installed aboard the ''Enterprise'' and eliminate the need for the rest of the crew to even be there (Chekov was bemusedly sitting at his console and simply confirming what the M-5's navigation was doing), why did they have 20 people onboard? Why not go ahead and ''completely'' give the ship over to the M-5? And who the hell designed this thing without an "off" switch? Daystrom had already had four previous failures!
** The episode itself answers that question: it was a demonstration, and Daystrom's prototypes already have a bad track record (which begs the question of why Starfleet still continues to do business with him). As a precaution, a bare minimum crew is left on board to document the M-5's performance, disable it in case there's a problem, and keep the ''Enterprise'' operational until the full ship's complement can be restored. Unfortunately the prototype [[GoneHorriblyRight worked a little too well...]]
** Starfleet kept working with Daystrom because of his breakthrough in duotronic circuits, which was as big a deal as us going from the punchcard computer to the vacuum tube, or from that to computer chips. Essentially, Daystrom was the Steve Jobs of the 23rd Century, and even if his most recent products had been a bust, he still had his reputation for the advancements he had made, so he was given the benefit of the doubt.
** One question this troper has is "Why only 20"? Granted, I can see a number of button-pusher positions being eliminated by the computer (helm, captain, navigation, weapons operators, etc and the secretarial jobs performed by Rand) but what about the entire engineering complement? What about the medical crew? Laboratory staff? Then there's the support personnel for those positions, redundancy. Was it simply a matter of "only 20 needed for the duration of this experiment"?
*** A crew of 20 was all that absolutely needed to operate the ship in the event of an M-5 malfunction. Notice that other ships were close at hand, including 4 other ''Constitution''-class starships. The 20 were needed to monitor M-5 to make sure that it was working and, in the event that all Hell broke loose, were there to shut the computer down and keep the ''Enterprise'' from spontaneously combusting until she could be dragged back to spacedock and refitted to normal operations. Scotty was onboard, as well as a couple other engineers, and [=McCoy=] was there for medical (with such a small crew and other ships nearby, you only need the one doctor). No laboratory staff was needed, since there was no research to be done other than on the M-5. Basically, it was a one time deal with the understanding that, if shit hit the fan, help was nearby anyway, so redundancy was less important that the M-5 trial run.
** They thought they ''did'' have [[CutTheJuice an off switch]] -- they tried to use it after the incident with the torpedoed ore freighter, but it didn't work because M-5 outmaneuvered them.

[[folder: Ambassadors Can Violate the Prime Directive?]]
* In "A Taste of Armageddon", Eminar VII sent the ''Enterprise'' a strict coded warning to stay the hell away. Why isn't this the end of the discussion? By ordering Kirk to proceed there anyway, the ambassador is causing him to violate the Prime Directive.
** Starfleet appears to be ultimately subject to civilian authority, so the ambassador (presumably operating on higher orders himself) is within his authority. Kirk does have the right and the responsibility to question the order under these circumstances, however.
** The ambassador likely had orders to open negotiations at all costs, or similar phrasing to that effect. Thus, he was willing to ignore anything that got in the way of that goal. Just one of the reasons that Fox was the definition of AssInAmbassador.
** In ''TOS'' the Prime Directive appears to fully apply only with pre-Warp civilizations who have not had interstellar interference or contact -- while it is not indicated that Eminiar has warp, it ''is'' made clear that they already know that there are other civilizations travelling around space to the point of knowing which Starfleet code indicates quarantine regardless of the circumstances, so ''as the Prime Directive is presented in TOS'', this is not a Prime Directive violation.

[[folder: Feel free to read our tech manuals! Please don't kill us!]]
* Khan is known to be a genetic superman, with strength, memory and intelligence all enhanced from regular human beings. And God knows he's ambitious. Hospitality aside, why in the ''world'' would Kirk give him an ''Enterprise'' technical manual?
** Perhaps he figured [[TechnologyMarchesOn progress had left Khan so far behind]] he wouldn't be able to catch up just by reading a manual. Still, this is the sort of thing that's classified in a real military/security organization, and Kirk should be in real hot water over it. It's hard to believe that the ''Enterprise'' didn't have some magazines or novels on board for Khan to read if he was that bored. Maybe even some newspaper archives, so Khan could get caught up?
** Consider the type of man Kirk is, and the society that he lives in: each person strives to do their level best to improve themselves, with little if any thought towards bringing another low. He was probably hoping that Khan, realizing how much had changed, would use his advanced mind to better the world around him rather than attempt to destroy/conquer it.
** Kirk had no idea who Khan was at this point. Khan was refusing to answer all questions, and claimed to be a ship engineer of the '''Botany Bay'''. He was given the tech manuals, presumably, because Kirk sympathised with his FishOutOfTemporalWater situation and like above, didn't believe he would be able to catch up with 200+ years of technological progress.
** It was, nonetheless, ''extremely'' stupid. If you find yourself in a Pentagon waiting room, or a military hospital, they don't hand you schematics for the F-35 fighter and just assume you won't understand them!

[[folder: Do the words "War Criminals" mean anything to you, Kirk?]]
* Khan and his crew may have been adrift in the ''Botany Bay'' for nearly 300 years, but they did so as HumanPopsicle[=s=]. Which means that from ''their'' perspective the Eugenics Wars were literally something that happened yesterday! By rights, shouldn't Kirk's ''immediate'' response have been to drag them back to Earth to face a war crimes tribunal? After all, it's not as if they had served any kind of prison sentence (that they were conscious for). One would expect that a spacefaring civilization possessed of cryogenics technology would be savvy enough to have modified their Statute of Limitations to cope with cases where criminals attempt to wait out the timeframe during which they can be prosecuted by going into stasis.
** Kirk didn't prosecute them for trying to murder him and commandeer the ''Enterprise'', so why would he take them back to answer for crimes 300 years old? Obviously Kirk had broad latitude in determining what to do with Khan and company, and he exercises it by exiling them. It does come back to bite him later.
** When they find who who Khan is, Kirk, Scotty, and [=McCoy=] show a certain degree of respect for him, noting that there were no massacres under his rule and that he did not fight wars until he was attacked. Spock is dismayed by their attitude, but does not challenge the stated facts. This suggests that Khan, while a ruthless dictator, was ''not'' actually a war criminal.
** Presumably their exile was the result of some kind of tribunal to begin with. Since they haven't done anything else, it would be double jeopardy to try them again for the same offence. If anything, sending them to Ceti Alpha V is adhering to the spirit of the original punishment.
*** Nobody knew what had happened to Khan and the other eugenic "supermen" until the ''Botany Bay'' was discovered. That is more consistent with a last-ditch escape than with a formal judgment and exile. Another objection to the idea is raised in the episode:
--->'''Spock:''' If you're suggesting this was a penal deportation vessel, you've arrived at a totally illogical conclusion.\\
'''Kirk:''' Oh?\\
'''Spock:''' Your Earth was on the verge of a dark ages. Whole populations were being bombed out of existence. A group of criminals could have been dealt with far more efficiently than wasting one of their most advanced spaceships.

[[folder: Commandeering Commodore]]
* Commodore Decker was ''quite obviously'' out of his mind. Why did Spock and [=McCoy=] back down so easily and let him take command of the ''Enterprise''? [=McCoy=] should have insisted on having those psychological evaluations beforehand, at the very least.
** While Spock would have backed up [=McCoy=] had the doctor pushed the issue (he did so with regard to ''Kirk'' in a similar situation), the case can be made that time was of the essence and that Decker ''did'' have critical intelligence on the Doomsday Machine that would ensure the survival of the ''Enterprise'' and its crew. Declaring him incompetent would have ended any further cooperation from him, resulting in a risk neither Spock nor [=McCoy=] is willing to take.
** The lack of psychological evaluations is easy to explain. The ship went to red alert right after Decker and [=McCoy=] beamed aboard, and Decker rushed to the bridge before the doctor could get him to sickbay. However, psychological evaluations shouldn't have been necessary to relieve Decker; it was clear enough from the way he was acting that he was unfit for command and [=McCoy=] should have noted that.

[[folder: The Cage]]
* Why was [[spoiler: Vina's true form]] so far from symmetrical? I get that the aliens couldn't rebuild her properly, but since they're symmetrical, and most complex species on Earth and in Star Trek are symmetrical, you'd think they'd at least try to make her look even. Even if she looked like a different species, she might still look sort of okay and would probably be much more comfortable than with problems like a twisted neck and face and a shoulder higher than one ear. It seems like they ''could'' have done it, given their medical abilities and what they did successfully do for her, but not knowing what her species looks like doesn't mean doing a slipshod job.
** Simple: The uglier she is the more likely she is to submit to their demands. Don't know about you but I sure as hell would be more suggestible if it meant I could be young and sexy instead of hideously deformed.
** I've always imagined there was one initial emergency surgery to save her life, and then several frantic surgeries to try to correct the damage they inflicted because they didn't know what the hell they were doing. They might have tried to reconstruct her with some semblance of symmetry, but with all the damaged and excised muscle, fused joints, scar tissue, nerve damage, and tendons reattached by duct tape and prayer, her body simply lacks the capacity for symmetry.
** When Pike asks "You'll give her back her illusion of beauty?" and the Keeper says "And more," he shows her with an illusion of Pike staying with her. This was rearranged for "The Menagerie" so that we don't see Pike going with her until he actually gets back to the planet, leaving the Keeper's "And more" unexplained. I like to think it means now that they've seen other humans, including females, they can fix her up a bit.
* Why aren't there more "laser" burns from all the other times people tried to fire their weapons? For that matter, if the illusions could cover up a laser blast and a hole burned through the wall, what was the point of one of the aliens trying to sneak in through the wall panel when they thought Pike wasn't looking ([[WatsonianVersusDoylist aside from]] [[Administrivia/DefaultAnswer stupidity to forward the plot]])?
** The Talosians can cover up the blast damage, but are clearly unable to prevent it. Securing the weapons is prudent because it removes danger of their prisoners devastating the Talosian facility and its staff and not even realizing it. Of course, with the power to alter their prisoners' perceptions, one has to wonder why the hell he could have let himself get caught.
** He got caught because, due to Pike's violent thoughts, he couldn't read his mind and was unaware that the seemingly unconscious man was actually poised to strike. As for the question about why the Talosian was trying to grab the phasers, Pike answers that a few seconds later, when he offers to test if the illusions will prevent them from seeing the uppermost 18 inches of alien disintegrate from a point-blank shot. Just because Pike can't see the damage he is causing doesn't mean he isn't tearing the place to shreds, and given the physical weakness that the Talosians demonstrate, it'll be hard enough to clean up the mess he'd already made.

[[folder: Kodos and witnesses]]
So supposedly when Kodos the Executioner killed 4000 people, there were only 9 known witnesses who ever saw him. Then how in the hell do they have his picture on file? Why would they need any witness to identify him when his picture was in federation records and his crimes were public record? Even then how did the other 3991 survivors never see him? Surely a colony's senator declaring martial law is not only going to make himself public, but would've been seen long before he took power anyway. Furthermore, he could not be 100% identified from a charred body--sorry, but it's the 23rd century, do they not have DNA testing yet? No ability to check dental records? That's just ignoring the fact that cosmetic surgery is easy and common--if a Klingon can look human, why can't one man change his appearance just slightly to avoid such identification? He didn't alter his appearance in the least (this might make sense if only a few witnesses could ID him, but his photo is in the records!). Plus how would his daughter have ever found out unless his photo was in the records? Come the (BEEP) on here!
* ScienceMarchesOn definitely applies here. It's not a stretch to assume that everyone in the 23rd century has perfect teeth, so dental records probably wouldn't still exist. Aside from that, there was no conclusive means of identifying a body from charred remains in the 1960's, and even today it's difficult. And DNA analysis has only been a thing since TheEighties. The only thing that would work is if Kodos had an identical twin brother upon whom he could pin the blame. Which means that either his brother was complicit in Kodos' crimes (and Kodos killed him to muddy his tracks) or yet another innocent man was killed.
* [[FridgeHorror Or Kodos anticipated this and]] [[InferredHolocaust killed everyone else who had seen his face prior to his attempted]] HeelFaceTurn.
[[folder: Spock's Estimate of Tribble Populations]]
--->'''Spock:''' One million seven hundred seventy one thousand five hundred sixty one. That's assuming one tribble, multiplying with an average litter of ten, producing a new generation every twelve hours over a period of three days.
* How is any of this reasonable? Dr. [=McCoy=] will soon come in and tell them that he hasn't completed his analysis of the medical characteristics of tribbles yet. And even if Bones told Spock earlier "an average litter of ten ever twelve hours", who says the average litter isn't really 10.3 and the average length of a tribble generation is really 11.8 hours? And the tribble population didn't start with one tribble; Cyrano Jones was talking like he had a considerable stock (dozens, lets say) on hand that he was going to sell to the bartender. Furthermore, the tribbles had to work their way ''into'' that storage bin, and who knows how long they've been breeding in there. At best Spock could maybe create an estimate to the nearest thousand, but even that is questionable.
** An average is just that: a smoothing over of rough data. Spock is working from the information [=McCoy=] provided him and at the scale Spock is talking about the ship is still screwed regardless of minor deviations from the mean. As for getting into the storage bin, there ''was'' a Klingon spy on the station who could have gotten aboard the ship and planted a few tribbles there to sabotage the ''Enterprise'''s mission. Granted, tribbles don't like Klingons but Cyrano could have put a few in a box for him, or he could have used some form of anesthesia to sedate them long enough to get the job done.
[[folder: One For Yes, Two For No: Poor, Poor Chris Pike]]
* Really? Hundreds of years of medical progress, and this is the best they can do for poor Christopher Pike? Even with only the tech we've got today, we could have taught him Morse code and allowed him to express complex thoughts, and we're well on our way to allowing paralyzed persons to control computers with their minds without even needing invasive implants.
** Let's be fair here because this tends to come up a lot: Computer technology today would seem borderline miraculous to someone living back in the sixties and as such to chew out the writers for not giving Pike a Stephen Hawking type chair is just wrong. It is also fair to say that TOS had a budget so small that stretching to a small flashing light genuinely was approaching the best they could do so even if they could envisage something more realistic they probably couldn't have done much better. Of course that does ''not'' excuse the genuine fact that the script writer apparently forgot about the concept of Morse code.
** How is it "just wrong"? They'd already imagined a talking ship's computer. It's not exactly much of a stretch from that to imagining an interface by which a severely crippled man could input language into the computer to have it read out for him, even if that interface was slow and painstaking (to preserve RuleOfDrama and keep his crippling suitably horrifying for the audience).
** I was also confused on the lack of morse code too, or even a shot of someone trying to spell out words with him when ''USS Enterprise'' crew come in and a remark of just going with yes and no questions on screen to save time.
** Of course it could just be that whatever the injury to him was, it was so debilitating that it is just too much of a strain for him to do anything more complicated than one light for yes and two for no. It does seem to take quite a while for him to even flicker those lights. That might very well ''be'' all he is capable of doing. We don't have enough information to rule it out. Out of universe, yeah it probably was just a 1960s mindset that it didn't even occur to the staff. We tend to forget just how far we've come sometimes.
*** It's been a while since I've seen the episode, but wasn't there a line to the effect that there was no brain damage and he was just as intelligent as ever?
*** Yep there is, and there is no indication in the episode that he suffers any mental impairments, from his reactions he's just as sharp as ever.
** The actual logical contradiction was demonstrated by the simple fact that Spock was taking him to the telepathic Talosians, who could access his otherwise intact mind just fine. The problem becomes that the Federation also has telepathic species, notably Vulcans (but not Betazoids yet). So at the very least Starfleet could have provided better care by getting him a Vulcan nurse, who would be able to at least assist him in communicating with those around him.
[[folder: What is a savage curtain?]]
* What's the significance of the episode title "The Savage Curtain?" Is it just a metaphor for the line between good and evil?
** The Excalbian at the end of the episode says that it can't see any difference between good and evil, so to the Excalbian, the difference between savagery and civilization is as insubstantial as a curtain.
[[folder: Does Janice Lester have Gender Dysphoria?]]
* Janice Lester from the episode ''Turnabout Intruder'' initially seems like your average insane villain of the week who wants to take control of the Enterprise. However almost immediately after she steals Kirk's body she starts to talk about ''suffering the indignity of being a woman'' as well as things like filing her nails or moving in an extremely feminine manner - she doesn't even try to playact. I'm proud to say that I have had a transgendered since school (and have known the members of several support groups) and trust me when I say that someone who is confused about their gender acts ''exactly'' like this - simultaneously hating and loving aspects of their body as well as (only sometimes I hasten to add) developing a jealous resentment toward the opposite sex. It would also explain why she claims that women cannot become starship captains despite the fact that the Federation is supposedly an utopia of equal rights, she is merely blaming her own lack of skills on her gender, which no doubt wasn't helped by being the girlfriend of the ultra-masculine Captain Kirk.
** Seems likely--though, in all probability, it was probably by accident. According to George Takei, Creator/GeneRoddenberry was accepting of LGBT people, but he wasn't involved in the third season. Even so, gender dysphoria was not something that was well understood in the 1960s (to put it mildly). I'd guess that she was just intended to be a run-of-the-mill [[TheMentallyDisturbed mad woman]].
** More likely the narrative was directed at gender stereotypes which is why you got a transgender feel from it (also please note the term is not transgendered - you wouldn't call someone straighted or heterosexualed).
** By the dialogue in the episode, and if the rumours about the sexism and harassment that many of the women endured backstage on both this show and TNG are true, this whole episode was meant to prove exactly ''why'' women shouldn't be in command. Even in the body of a strong and healthy man with a state of the art starship at his command, granted all of his friends, all of his privileges, all of his power; she couldn't even stop filing her nails and screaming long enough to achieve anything of any value to her cause whatsoever. I can guarantee that ''women are not allowed to be starship captains'' is as black and white as that sounds.
** In the context of this production era, yes, the episode definitely had those sexist undertones. On the other hand, if we're to look at the episode as if it were actually taking place in the enlightened far future, it makes a bit more sense that there were definite reasons that Janice Lester did not receive a command of her own, and that she's looking for any excuse other than ''she would not be a good fit for command''- not because she's a woman, but because she's bonkers. Definitely a sexist episode, of course, (what do you expect? It's the 60's!) but this is how I, as a modern viewer, look at it in order to enjoy it without cringing.

[[folder:Non-Earth objects in the Squire of Gothos' collection?]]
* If the Squire of Gothos collects old Earth objects, why does he have the alien from the Man Trap in his collection? Obviously a Doylesian explanation is that they needed something to fill a niche and were reusing props, but what in-universe explanation could there be? Everything else in his collection is clearly of Earth origin, and 19th-century Earth at that.
** Maybe Trelane stumbled upon a Salt Vampire during one of his earlier playtimes, and thought it was just too cool to get rid of even though it didn't really fit the new decor (an in-universe explanation that sort of echoes the real-world one, really).
** The Salt Vampire is compared to the buffalo in its episode (once covered the plains of its world, now nearly extinct). So it could be an in-joke stand-in for a buffalo.

[[folder: Earth wasn't the first spacefaring species]]
* ...so why do the Enterprise crew feel like they have literally no option for repairs etc when they're trapped in the 1960s in "Tomorrow is Forever"? Surely even if Earth isn't there yet, they could travel to other planets for help?
** "The Vulcan Science Directorate has determined that time travel is impossible."
** Because it would still be screwing around with the timeline. Any number of antagonist races getting wind of the fact that Earth will be warp-capable and a potential threat in the future, for example, might just make them feel like nipping the problem in the bud with a convenient genocide. Also, putting in for repairs might expose the engineers of those other planets to any number of uptime technologies ''they'' weren't familiar with, even if they understand some of the essentials- and perhaps reverse-engineer them for gain.
* Blish has "Space outside the local group of stars was wholly dominated by the Vegan Tyranny, and you'll recall what happened when we first hit ''them''." Blish had made up the Vegan Tyranny for ''Cities In Flight'' and just put them into his novelization of this episode. Perhaps the writers had invented something similar and the line got cut.

[[folder: Wouldn't beaming Christopher back kill him?]]
* (referring to Captain John Christopher, USAF pilot in "Tomorrow Is Forever") The whole reason they beamed him out of there was to save his life as his plane was breaking up. Surely beaming him back the moment after he left would be exposing him to the very same accident that they were saving him from. Why then does the Enterprise disappear with no damage caused by it?

[[folder: Everything was invented in Russia]]
* What is up with Chekov's (often quite ridiculous) claims about all kinds of stuff having been invented in Russia? In the context of the UsefulNotes/ColdWar era in which the series was made, this was probably meant to make fun of Soviet propaganda and CulturalPosturing. But shouldn't the people of the 23rd century with their unified world goverment long have evolved beyond that?
** That was probably just Chekov's personal quirk.
** Even with the unified Earth government, regional rivalries or cultural posturing can still exist, perhaps taken (somewhat) less seriously than in the era of nation states. Think EverythingIsBigInTexas - on a global level. And of course, Chekhov is the Enterprise's resident {{cloudcuckoolander}}, which can account for over-the-top nature of his claims.
** Chekov's claims were a parody of a specific type of CulturalPosturing that the Soviets were infamous for in real life: essentially giving themselves credit for every technological or cultural advancement mankind has ever made. Creator/NicholasMeyer took the joke UpToEleven in ''Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry'', when the [[KlingonsLoveShakespeare Klingons took credit for the works of William Shakespeare]]--even claiming that his plays could only truly be appreciated properly InTheOriginalKlingon. In the same film, Spock borrows the joke from Chekov twice: First when he quoted the old Vulcan proverb: "Only [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] could go to China," and later when he claims to be a descendant of Literature/SherlockHolmes.

[[folder: Mirror Universe costume change]]
* In 'Mirror, Mirror', when the crew switches places with their alternate selves, why do they end up in their counterparts' clothes?
** It's possible it was just a mental transfer.

[[folder: Spock's parentage]]
* How did Kirk not know that his best friend Spock's father was a famous ambassador? Even if Spock never told him due to their estrangement, surely that info would be in Spock's Starfleet record, which Kirk should have seen as Spock's commanding officer.
** Maybe Kirk didn't realize it was ''that'' Sarek. Maybe Sarek is actually a fairly common name among Vulcans.

[[folder: Going Back to the Future]]
* After Edith Keeler's death, how did Kirk, Spock and [=McCoy=] get back to the 23nd Century? Did the Guardian of Forever transport them back after the last 30s scene. And if they Guardian could just pull people back, since there's no way they could have made it to the planet it was on in the 1930s, why didn't the Guardian just bring [=McCoy=] back before he changed anything?
** I'm going into WMG territory here, but maybe the Guardian either marked them somehow or gave them some kind of tracking device (that we were not told about) before they entered the gate. So the Guardian knew where they were, and could pull them back any time, but needed them to find [=McCoy=], who got lost.
** It seems likely that the Guardian can only pull back someone who is willing and ready to come back, and knows that the Guardian is waiting to bring them back. [=McCoy=] wasn't coherent enough to even understand what the Guardian was before he went through, and so he couldn't be willing to go back until Kirk and Spock met him in the past and told him what was up.

[[folder:Just use a shuttlecraft!]]
* In the episode "The Enemy Within", the transporter is malfunctioning. And as a result, they can't risk beaming the crewmembers that are on the planet's surface back up to the Enterprise. Instead of waiting for the transporter to work again, why doesn't Kirk just send a shuttle down to pick them up? Surely, the transporter can't be the only way on or off the ship!
** Because the writers hadn't thought them up yet. ''The Enemy Within'' was episode 4, the first shuttlecraft appeared in episode 13 ''The Galileo Seven''. To explain it in-universe is tricky, but to not have a single member of the crew suggest using one greatly implies that they hadn't taken delivery of any yet and/or the few that they did have were broken - which when you factor in the devastation wrought in ''Where No Man Has Gone Before'' thanks to the galactic barrier and the strain the ship was under in ''The Corbomite Maneuver'', Scotty probably had to relegate the shuttle repairs far down the list.
** The model of the ''Enterprise'' had shuttle bay doors on the back from the first pilot, but the shuttle itself hadn't been designed or the props or models built at the time of "The Enemy Within."

[[folder:And the Children Shall Not Be Phasered?]]
* In "And the Children Shall Lead", once it became blatantly obvious that the Triacus children were the (in)direct cause of ''everything'' happening on Triacus and aboard the ''Enterprise'', why did it never occur to Kirk to simply grab a hand phaser and ''stun the lot of them''? They would not have suffered any permanent harm, it would have given Kirk and his crew back control of the ship, and Bones could've kept them sedated until they could be properly dealt with. Ignoring the fact that you probably couldn't show violence toward children on TV in the 60s, a simple hand phaser set to stun would've avoided everything.
** Where is your proof that a phaser set to stun is harmless against children? So-called ''non-lethal weaponry'' IS frequently lethal as the taser has proved on multiple occasions. There are a whole mass of factors including body mass and development that need to be considered. What if one of those kids had a heart attack? And its not just the censors that are the problem (the laws really have not changed much when it comes to adult on child violence) its the whole image of Kirk as a hero - and heroes do not shoot children.