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** It works under the same logic that lets Crash and Eddie (opossum lifespan = 1-2 years in wild, 4 years in captivity) survive to be the "big brothers" of Ellie and the "uncles" of her adolescent daughter Peaches (proboscidean sexual maturity = 14-17 years; gestation = 2 years).
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* What in the hell did they feed that baby? A baby cannot live on watermelon- a baby just learning to walk is still drinking almost exclusively milk. And there weren't any other women with the humans- which also makes no sense. So how did they keep it alive afterwards, anyway?
** On that last point, it's a possible interpretation that the group of humans was a search party or a hunting party, so the women would be back at the camp, or in some other temporary hideout where they would be safe. Presumably any other children the tribe has are with them.
** Babies learning to walk are usually around 10 months to a year old, they can eat pretty much everything by then. He could have been picking up things to eat off the ground too.
** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
* The flashback of Manny. I haven't seen the movie in a few years so maybe my memory has been jogged but..[[spoiler:Was the baby Manny? Or was the adult Manny?]]
** The flashback shows the baby, along with the mother, cornered by hunters. The adult that trumpets in shock afterwards is Manny.
** I agree with above, this also explains some of the attachment Manny has with with human baby.
*** It's debatable. When I first watched it again, I always assumed they killed Manny's parents.
*** It was definitely his wife and child. It's referenced in the second movie that he's lost his family, twice (by the kid at the start, then Manny mentioning it's his family holding him back from trying to get with Ellie).
*** This is no doubt the reason behind his sour attitude at the beginning of the film, a man grieving for the deaths of his wife and child.
* Okay, in ''Ice Age'', the baby's mom is nearly dead in a river. She looks up and sees a ''fucking mammoth'' hovering over her and her infant. She simply smiles, dies, leaving the baby at the mercy of the mammoth. Of course, we know this mammoth is Manny and he's not going to hurt the infant, but seriously, IRL, a woman would not be too pleased that an elephant is within a few feet from her baby.
** She was probabley woozy from being near-death and unable to get out and help her child. She might have not even known that the animal next to her child was a mammoth.
** Or she thought she was hallucinating Manny. Or she was hallucinating something else entirely.
** Based on the beliefs of ancient peoples, at the very moment she needs it, along comes what could well be a totem (protection spirit) of strength and gentleness. She takes a chance and offers Manny the baby, hoping he's a spirit come to protect her child.
** Go back and watch the movie. She pushes her baby in the direction of the mammoth, who takes the baby in his trunk, and it's when she sees this that she smiles. She wasn't just smiling because she saw an elephant standing nearby. And besides, at that point her only other option for Roshan would be to keep him with her as she died, which risks him slipping into the river and drowning or being consumed by a carnivorous creature who comes along and finds him. But the only way for Roshan to be killed by a mammoth is if the mammoth accidentally steps on him, and he's more likely to be safe from predators with such a huge creature looking after him. So leaving the baby with Manny was really the only choice she had.
* WordOfGod says that Diego '''really did die''' in Number 1. So, in the sequels, Diego's a ghost?
** He had nine lives. Now he has eight.
** Actually, he's a different sabertooth, also named Diego. Note that in the sequels, he has a different attitude, a different personality, and even different eye color than the first film.
*** Also, while the "second Diego" hates water, the "first Diego" has no problem with it, even crossing a river while chasing Roshan's mother.
*** Maybe that's his brother or some other close relative who replaced him?
*** I always assumed that Diego was just so completely focused on getting the baby that the water didn't cross his mind.
** Diego was ''supposed'' to die in Ice Age; they changed it after making the test audience cry. Probably what they meant was that, when they were making the scene, they did it with the thought that yes, this character is dead, hence why it really did seem like he had died until he came back. I don't think we're supposed to believe that another, previously unmentioned, tiger randomly joined them, or anything else like that. Any inconsistencies between the first two films are coincidental.
** The "changes of personality", possibly as well as his "sudden" fear of water, might be just as well explained with his injuries from the first movie. Soto threw him against a rock and the blow was severe enough that he passed out. It is confirmed that head injuries ''can'' lead to change in behavior and personality, if they're severe enough.
* What I never got when watching the first; what exactly happened when Diego jumped between Manny and Soto that nearly cost him his life? Soto bit his throat? Way too subtly shown in that case.
** actually it looks more like it should have been a gut shot...still no visable injury though.
** He hit his head against a rock and there was a sort of cracky thud, so it was probably because he, y'know, hit his head.
** Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Diego falls on his left side after taking the blow from Soto but when we see Manny and Sid mourning over him later, he's lying on his right side? I always assumed that Diego didn't move anymore after taking the blow because he was too weak because of his injuries, but apparently he ''has'' moved. It just doesn't make sense to me why he should stand up to lay on his other side when being that hurt.
** Why on earth should he need to ''stand up'' just to effectively roll over? The absolute most movement that would require is pushing the front half of his body up and using the momentum to flop over onto his other side. That's possible to do even if you're hurt.
** True, to the second above point, and that also does explain the moan we hear from Diego - he probably made it as he was rolling over in an attempt to hide how serious his injuries were from Manny, Roshan, and Sid.
* When Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
** Because he had two multi-tonne animals out for his blood. Sid wasn't in the right state of mind to discuss Carl and Frank's motivations for killing him.
** Because Carl and Frank explain it seconds (not minutes) later.
** He didn't know. When Manny points out that rhinos are herbivores, Sid says "an excellent point", implying he thought they were going to eat him too.
** On that last point, it's a possible interpretation that the group of humans was a search party or a hunting party, so the women would be back at the camp, or in some other temporary hideout where they would be safe. Presumably any other children the tribe has are with them.
** Babies learning to walk are usually around 10 months to a year old, they can eat pretty much everything by then. He could have been picking up things to eat off the ground too.
** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
* The flashback of Manny. I haven't seen the movie in a few years so maybe my memory has been jogged but..[[spoiler:Was the baby Manny? Or was the adult Manny?]]
** The flashback shows the baby, along with the mother, cornered by hunters. The adult that trumpets in shock afterwards is Manny.
** I agree with above, this also explains some of the attachment Manny has with with human baby.
*** It's debatable. When I first watched it again, I always assumed they killed Manny's parents.
*** It was definitely his wife and child. It's referenced in the second movie that he's lost his family, twice (by the kid at the start, then Manny mentioning it's his family holding him back from trying to get with Ellie).
*** This is no doubt the reason behind his sour attitude at the beginning of the film, a man grieving for the deaths of his wife and child.
* Okay, in ''Ice Age'', the baby's mom is nearly dead in a river. She looks up and sees a ''fucking mammoth'' hovering over her and her infant. She simply smiles, dies, leaving the baby at the mercy of the mammoth. Of course, we know this mammoth is Manny and he's not going to hurt the infant, but seriously, IRL, a woman would not be too pleased that an elephant is within a few feet from her baby.
** She was probabley woozy from being near-death and unable to get out and help her child. She might have not even known that the animal next to her child was a mammoth.
** Or she thought she was hallucinating Manny. Or she was hallucinating something else entirely.
** Based on the beliefs of ancient peoples, at the very moment she needs it, along comes what could well be a totem (protection spirit) of strength and gentleness. She takes a chance and offers Manny the baby, hoping he's a spirit come to protect her child.
** Go back and watch the movie. She pushes her baby in the direction of the mammoth, who takes the baby in his trunk, and it's when she sees this that she smiles. She wasn't just smiling because she saw an elephant standing nearby. And besides, at that point her only other option for Roshan would be to keep him with her as she died, which risks him slipping into the river and drowning or being consumed by a carnivorous creature who comes along and finds him. But the only way for Roshan to be killed by a mammoth is if the mammoth accidentally steps on him, and he's more likely to be safe from predators with such a huge creature looking after him. So leaving the baby with Manny was really the only choice she had.
* WordOfGod says that Diego '''really did die''' in Number 1. So, in the sequels, Diego's a ghost?
** He had nine lives. Now he has eight.
** Actually, he's a different sabertooth, also named Diego. Note that in the sequels, he has a different attitude, a different personality, and even different eye color than the first film.
*** Also, while the "second Diego" hates water, the "first Diego" has no problem with it, even crossing a river while chasing Roshan's mother.
*** Maybe that's his brother or some other close relative who replaced him?
*** I always assumed that Diego was just so completely focused on getting the baby that the water didn't cross his mind.
** Diego was ''supposed'' to die in Ice Age; they changed it after making the test audience cry. Probably what they meant was that, when they were making the scene, they did it with the thought that yes, this character is dead, hence why it really did seem like he had died until he came back. I don't think we're supposed to believe that another, previously unmentioned, tiger randomly joined them, or anything else like that. Any inconsistencies between the first two films are coincidental.
** The "changes of personality", possibly as well as his "sudden" fear of water, might be just as well explained with his injuries from the first movie. Soto threw him against a rock and the blow was severe enough that he passed out. It is confirmed that head injuries ''can'' lead to change in behavior and personality, if they're severe enough.
* What I never got when watching the first; what exactly happened when Diego jumped between Manny and Soto that nearly cost him his life? Soto bit his throat? Way too subtly shown in that case.
** actually it looks more like it should have been a gut shot...still no visable injury though.
** He hit his head against a rock and there was a sort of cracky thud, so it was probably because he, y'know, hit his head.
** Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Diego falls on his left side after taking the blow from Soto but when we see Manny and Sid mourning over him later, he's lying on his right side? I always assumed that Diego didn't move anymore after taking the blow because he was too weak because of his injuries, but apparently he ''has'' moved. It just doesn't make sense to me why he should stand up to lay on his other side when being that hurt.
** Why on earth should he need to ''stand up'' just to effectively roll over? The absolute most movement that would require is pushing the front half of his body up and using the momentum to flop over onto his other side. That's possible to do even if you're hurt.
** True, to the second above point, and that also does explain the moan we hear from Diego - he probably made it as he was rolling over in an attempt to hide how serious his injuries were from Manny, Roshan, and Sid.
* When Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
** Because he had two multi-tonne animals out for his blood. Sid wasn't in the right state of mind to discuss Carl and Frank's motivations for killing him.
** Because Carl and Frank explain it seconds (not minutes) later.
** He didn't know. When Manny points out that rhinos are herbivores, Sid says "an excellent point", implying he thought they were going to eat him too.
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*What in the hell did they feed that baby? A baby cannot live on watermelon- a baby just learning to walk is still drinking almost exclusively milk. And there weren't any other women with the humans- which also makes no sense. So how did they keep it alive afterwards, anyway?
** On that last point, it's a possible interpretation that the group of humans was a search party or a hunting party, so the women would be back at the camp, or in some other temporary hideout where they would be safe. Presumably any other children the tribe has are with them.
** Babies learning to walk are usually around 10 months to a year old, they can eat pretty much everything by then. He could have been picking up things to eat off the ground too.
** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
''Headscratchers/IceAge1''
*The flashback of Manny. I haven't seen the movie in a few years so maybe my memory has been jogged but..[[spoiler:Was the baby Manny? Or was the adult Manny?]]
** The flashback shows the baby, along with the mother, cornered by hunters. The adult that trumpets in shock afterwards is Manny.
** I agree with above, this also explains some of the attachment Manny has with with human baby.
*** It's debatable. When I first watched it again, I always assumed they killed Manny's parents.
*** It was definitely his wife and child. It's referenced in the second movie that he's lost his family, twice (by the kid at the start, then Manny mentioning it's his family holding him back from trying to get with Ellie).
*** This is no doubt the reason behind his sour attitude at the beginning of the film, a man grieving for the deaths of his wife and child.
''Headscratchers/IceAgeTheMeltdown''
*Okay, in ''Ice Age'', the baby's mom is nearly dead in a river. She looks up and sees a ''fucking mammoth'' hovering over her and her infant. She simply smiles, dies, leaving the baby at the mercy of the mammoth. Of course, we know this mammoth is Manny and he's not going to hurt the infant, but seriously, IRL, a woman would not be too pleased that an elephant is within a few feet from her baby.
** She was probabley woozy from being near-death and unable to get out and help her child. She might have not even known that the animal next to her child was a mammoth.
** Or she thought she was hallucinating Manny. Or she was hallucinating something else entirely.
** Based on the beliefs of ancient peoples, at the very moment she needs it, along comes what could well be a totem (protection spirit) of strength and gentleness. She takes a chance and offers Manny the baby, hoping he's a spirit come to protect her child.
** Go back and watch the movie. She pushes her baby in the direction of the mammoth, who takes the baby in his trunk, and it's when she sees this that she smiles. She wasn't just smiling because she saw an elephant standing nearby. And besides, at that point her only other option for Roshan would be to keep him with her as she died, which risks him slipping into the river and drowning or being consumed by a carnivorous creature who comes along and finds him. But the only way for Roshan to be killed by a mammoth is if the mammoth accidentally steps on him, and he's more likely to be safe from predators with such a huge creature looking after him. So leaving the baby with Manny was really the only choice she had.
''Headscratchers/IceAgeDawnOfTheDinosaurs''
*WordOfGod says that Diego '''really did die''' in Number 1. So, in the sequels, Diego's a ghost?
** He had nine lives. Now he has eight.
** Actually, he's a different sabertooth, also named Diego. Note that in the sequels, he has a different attitude, a different personality, and even different eye color than the first film.
*** Also, while the "second Diego" hates water, the "first Diego" has no problem with it, even crossing a river while chasing Roshan's mother.
*** Maybe that's his brother or some other close relative who replaced him?
*** I always assumed that Diego was just so completely focused on getting the baby that the water didn't cross his mind.
** Diego was ''supposed'' to die in Ice Age; they changed it after making the test audience cry. Probably what they meant was that, when they were making the scene, they did it with the thought that yes, this character is dead, hence why it really did seem like he had died until he came back. I don't think we're supposed to believe that another, previously unmentioned, tiger randomly joined them, or anything else like that. Any inconsistencies between the first two films are coincidental.
** The "changes of personality", possibly as well as his "sudden" fear of water, might be just as well explained with his injuries from the first movie. Soto threw him against a rock and the blow was severe enough that he passed out. It is confirmed that head injuries ''can'' lead to change in behavior and personality, if they're severe enough.
* What I never got when watching the first; what exactly happened when Diego jumped between Manny and Soto that nearly cost him his life? Soto bit his throat? Way too subtly shown in that case.
** actually it looks more like it should have been a gut shot...still no visable injury though.
** He hit his head against a rock and there was a sort of cracky thud, so it was probably because he, y'know, hit his head.
** Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Diego falls on his left side after taking the blow from Soto but when we see Manny and Sid mourning over him later, he's lying on his right side? I always assumed that Diego didn't move anymore after taking the blow because he was too weak because of his injuries, but apparently he ''has'' moved. It just doesn't make sense to me why he should stand up to lay on his other side when being that hurt.
** Why on earth should he need to ''stand up'' just to effectively roll over? The absolute most movement that would require is pushing the front half of his body up and using the momentum to flop over onto his other side. That's possible to do even if you're hurt.
** True, to the second above point, and that also does explain the moan we hear from Diego - he probably made it as he was rolling over in an attempt to hide how serious his injuries were from Manny, Roshan, and Sid.
* When Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
** Because he had two multi-tonne animals out for his blood. Sid wasn't in the right state of mind to discuss Carl and Frank's motivations for killing him.
** Because Carl and Frank explain it seconds (not minutes) later.
** He didn't know. When Manny points out that rhinos are herbivores, Sid says "an excellent point", implying he thought they were going to eat him too.''Headscratchers/IceAgeContinentalDrift''
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** On that last point, it's a possible interpretation that the group of humans was a search party or a hunting party, so the women would be back at the camp, or in some other temporary hideout where they would be safe. Presumably any other children the tribe has are with them.
** Babies learning to walk are usually around 10 months to a year old, they can eat pretty much everything by then. He could have been picking up things to eat off the ground too.
** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
*
** The flashback shows the baby, along with the mother, cornered by hunters. The adult that trumpets in shock afterwards is Manny.
** I agree with above, this also explains some of the attachment Manny has with with human baby.
*** It's debatable. When I first watched it again, I always assumed they killed Manny's parents.
*** It was definitely his wife and child. It's referenced in the second movie that he's lost his family, twice (by the kid at the start, then Manny mentioning it's his family holding him back from trying to get with Ellie).
*** This is no doubt the reason behind his sour attitude at the beginning of the film, a man grieving for the deaths of his wife and child.
*
** She was probabley woozy from being near-death and unable to get out and help her child. She might have not even known that the animal next to her child was a mammoth.
** Or she thought she was hallucinating Manny. Or she was hallucinating something else entirely.
** Based on the beliefs of ancient peoples, at the very moment she needs it, along comes what could well be a totem (protection spirit) of strength and gentleness. She takes a chance and offers Manny the baby, hoping he's a spirit come to protect her child.
** Go back and watch the movie. She pushes her baby in the direction of the mammoth, who takes the baby in his trunk, and it's when she sees this that she smiles. She wasn't just smiling because she saw an elephant standing nearby. And besides, at that point her only other option for Roshan would be to keep him with her as she died, which risks him slipping into the river and drowning or being consumed by a carnivorous creature who comes along and finds him. But the only way for Roshan to be killed by a mammoth is if the mammoth accidentally steps on him, and he's more likely to be safe from predators with such a huge creature looking after him. So leaving the baby with Manny was really the only choice she had.
*
** He had nine lives. Now he has eight.
** Actually, he's a different sabertooth, also named Diego. Note that in the sequels, he has a different attitude, a different personality, and even different eye color than the first film.
*** Also, while the "second Diego" hates water, the "first Diego" has no problem with it, even crossing a river while chasing Roshan's mother.
*** Maybe that's his brother or some other close relative who replaced him?
*** I always assumed that Diego was just so completely focused on getting the baby that the water didn't cross his mind.
** Diego was ''supposed'' to die in Ice Age; they changed it after making the test audience cry. Probably what they meant was that, when they were making the scene, they did it with the thought that yes, this character is dead, hence why it really did seem like he had died until he came back. I don't think we're supposed to believe that another, previously unmentioned, tiger randomly joined them, or anything else like that. Any inconsistencies between the first two films are coincidental.
** The "changes of personality", possibly as well as his "sudden" fear of water, might be just as well explained with his injuries from the first movie. Soto threw him against a rock and the blow was severe enough that he passed out. It is confirmed that head injuries ''can'' lead to change in behavior and personality, if they're severe enough.
* What I never got when watching the first; what exactly happened when Diego jumped between Manny and Soto that nearly cost him his life? Soto bit his throat? Way too subtly shown in that case.
** actually it looks more like it should have been a gut shot...still no visable injury though.
** He hit his head against a rock and there was a sort of cracky thud, so it was probably because he, y'know, hit his head.
** Speaking of that, did anyone notice that Diego falls on his left side after taking the blow from Soto but when we see Manny and Sid mourning over him later, he's lying on his right side? I always assumed that Diego didn't move anymore after taking the blow because he was too weak because of his injuries, but apparently he ''has'' moved. It just doesn't make sense to me why he should stand up to lay on his other side when being that hurt.
** Why on earth should he need to ''stand up'' just to effectively roll over? The absolute most movement that would require is pushing the front half of his body up and using the momentum to flop over onto his other side. That's possible to do even if you're hurt.
** True, to the second above point, and that also does explain the moan we hear from Diego - he probably made it as he was rolling over in an attempt to hide how serious his injuries were from Manny, Roshan, and Sid.
* When Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
** Because he had two multi-tonne animals out for his blood. Sid wasn't in the right state of mind to discuss Carl and Frank's motivations for killing him.
** Because Carl and Frank explain it seconds (not minutes) later.
** He didn't know. When Manny points out that rhinos are herbivores, Sid says "an excellent point", implying he thought they were going to eat him too.
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* Soto's second plan doesn't make a lot of sense. Original idea: Attack the human village, steal baby and eat him. Okay, Diego lost the baby and his mother at the waterfall... why the heck did Soto ask Diego to meet them (Sabers) again at Half Peak? "OK you lost the baby. Diego, we'll go to a volcano -dozens of miles- away and you'll take the baby there instead of us helping you find it".
** Soto's "victory or death mentality" (see the Ice Age fridge brilliance page) would make one think that he'd just kill Diego there ''immediately'' but he doesn't. I think it was just a ruse to get Diego out of the way since Soto clearly doesn't like him and - as I put on the Fridge Horror section - he might have known that the volcano was going to erupt too at that time and was deliberately trying to make sure Diego died when that happened. So, it's not really a plan to get back at the humans, it's a "reprieve" for Diego since he's already holding multiple {{ImpliedDeathThreat}}s over his head.
** I believe splitting up was also to keep the humans distracted - after Roshan's father comes across the beads his wife dropped, the film shows he and his tribe chasing after the other members of the pack. If they all stay in the area and help Diego (which he shouldn't need anyway - it's one woman and her baby, who were last seen jumping over a waterfall), it would've been easier for the humans and their dogs to track them.
* What does Diego eat after he abandons his old pack and joins the herd, which is largely composed of animals sabre-toothed cats are known to eat? And for that matter, what did Shira eat when she was still a member of the pirate crew if all they did with the dead weight was toss it overboard and their bounty was composed entirely of fruits?
** Well Fish is always an option.
** For Diego, the herd is only him, Sid, Manny, Ellie, her brothers and Peaches, all other animals are fair game unless he decides to befriend them. If he can't find enough to eat in fish or bugs he slinks off and picks off a straggler, someone ill or someone close to death. Shira likely ate those who resisted.
* It's not really such a ''huge'' deal, I suppose, but about that string of beads that Roshan's father gives to Manny at the end of the first film...Why doesn't he keep that in any of the other ones? If I had known there was going to be an ''Ice Age 2'' when I saw the first one, I for sure would've expected it to have been just tied around one of his tusks to secure it...Wouldn't it have been a nice little reminder of the baby, the entire ''reason'' the heard was brought together in the first place? (Especially come the third movie, where Sid is shown to have what seems like pretty exemplary skill at tying knots.)
** I agree, but perhaps it would simply have been too difficult to continuously animate the necklace hanging onto his tusk.
* More of a meta thing, but according to this site (and various other sources) Blue Sky reversed Diego's death because it made kids very sad (with some sources saying it made them cry). What, exactly, were they expecting the reaction to killing off a main character to be? If anything, you'd think sad kids would be the desired result from that kind of thing.
** You also have to keep in mind though that Fox ordered a ''children's comedy.'' Killing off a main character doesn't exactly fit into a children's comedy, but that's because Blue Sky upped the stakes a little and altered into a ''dramedy.'' And they (Carlos and Chris) do express a bit of regret that they had to alter it because it verged from their original vision (and probably the movie it's based on, ''Film/ThreeGodfathers'') in the WesternAnimation/IceAge 1 commentary. Also, surprisingly Denis Leary was against killing Diego from the start and warned them it would set kids bawling and when he was right Diego did actually ''die'' but was brought back to life.
** Sure, they probably expected kids to be upset when a main character dies. But they also had the scene of showing what happened to Manny's family, Roshan's mother dying, Soto being surprisingly explicitly threatening... And all of those are arguably more important to the plot than whether Diego actually stays dead or not. The thing is (as far as focus groups and the like are concerned), if kids get ''too'' scared or upset from a film, the chances are that they're not going to want to watch it again because they then associate it with being sad or scared. A little fear or sadness is alright but only a certain amount and preferably not right at the end of the film when it will more likely be the lasting memory of the movie.
* What the hell happened to Roshan? He was a huge part of the first film, and he was what originally brought the herd together. Then in the sequels he's completely forgotten, and no one ever mentions him again. What gives?
** Well, he and his people went through a pass that subsequently filled up with snow at the end of the first movie, so it's not likely that he'd appear in person in any of the sequels, especially after the herd has returned further south, found mates, and raised children. As for referencing him, there just hasn't really been any need to. I feel that they could've worked one if they'd wanted to, but they seem content with moving further and further from the first film with each new sequel.
** Though as the YMMV page points out, it is "blissfully ironic" that they seem to have completely forgotten about him at this point, considering their last words to him were literally "We won't forget about you." For a serious answer, though, they're probably worried that dropping a reference to Roshan wouldn't be understood by the target audience the newer films are aimed at, as they're probably still too young to have seen the first film when it came out.
* Why did Manny even accept Roshan from his mother initially? If his intent at that point was to turn around and leave him, why didn't he just do that from the get-go? Just to give the mother some peace of mind?
** He was shocked at what was currently happening and went on instinct - he took something someone else gave him.
** It plainly wasn't by instinct, as he was standing there for several seconds watching her before she gave Roshan over, and the two of them share a prolonged look before she lays her head down and expires, implying that they had come to some sort of understanding. If Manny was intent on leaving the baby to die, he could've just not taken it from her to begin with.
** Look at the sequence of events: his instinct was to save Roshan ''once his mother actually offered him''. She pushes Roshan up the bank towards him and Sid, Roshan starts rolling back down and Manny catches him without even looking. ''That's'' instinct. The look of understanding is entirely on the mother's part - no doubt she sees Manny as being some kind of protector omen for her son or is just relieved that he's being given a chance to survive - but Manny is still just staring at her with wide shocked eyes. Manny's only reference for humans up till this point is that they killed his mate and child, but he's still a fundamentally good creature; there's no way he's just going to wrestle a bundle out of the grip of a human woman ''before'' said bundle is offered to him, especially when he has absolutely no idea what's even led to this point. He probably didn't even realise that she was dying; he just had the understanding that whatever she's pushing towards him should be kept out of the water. As the first responder said, he took something that was offered to him and only when he realised it was a human baby and the shock of the situation wore off did he turn away and try to leave.
* So humans killed several of Soto's pack members. How did Soto know that the human tribe Roshan was in was the tribe in particular do so and what exactly did the humans do that is any similar to eating a baby alive?
** 1.) He probably knows it's the same tribe because he remembers them from when it happened. 2.) He says what the humans did -- they slaughtered Soto's pack members, used their fur to keep warm, and may've even eaten some of them, too. From a tiger's perspective, killing one member of the human tribe in retribution, even if he is a baby, seems a bit minor in comparison.
* Can Roshan [[SpeaksFluentAnimal hear the animals speak English]]?
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**True, to the second above point, and that also does explain the moan we hear from Diego - he probably made it as he was rolling over in an attempt to hide how serious his injuries were from Manny, Roshan, and Sid.
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** Why on earth should he need to ''stand up'' just to effectively roll over? The absolute most movement that would require is pushing the front half of his body up and using the momentum to flop over onto his other side. That's possible to do even if you're hurt.
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** Sure, they probably expected kids to be upset when a main character dies. But they also had the scene of showing what happened to Manny's family, Roshan's mother dying, Soto being surprisingly explicitly threatening... And all of those are arguably more important to the plot than whether Diego actually stays dead or not. The thing is (as far as focus groups and the like are concerned), if kids get ''too'' scared or upset from a film, the chances are that they're not going to want to watch it again because they then associate it with being sad or scared. A little fear or sadness is alright but only a certain amount and preferably not right at the end of the film when it will more likely be the lasting memory of the movie.
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** Look at the sequence of events: his instinct was to save Roshan ''once his mother actually offered him''. She pushes Roshan up the bank towards him and Sid, Roshan starts rolling back down and Manny catches him without even looking. ''That's'' instinct. The look of understanding is entirely on the mother's part - no doubt she sees Manny as being some kind of protector omen for her son or is just relieved that he's being given a chance to survive - but Manny is still just staring at her with wide shocked eyes. Manny's only reference for humans up till this point is that they killed his mate and child, but he's still a fundamentally good creature; there's no way he's just going to wrestle a bundle out of the grip of a human woman ''before'' said bundle is offered to him, especially when he has absolutely no idea what's even led to this point. He probably didn't even realise that she was dying; he just had the understanding that whatever she's pushing towards him should be kept out of the water. As the first responder said, he took something that was offered to him and only when he realised it was a human baby and the shock of the situation wore off did he turn away and try to leave.
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** Go back and watch the movie. She pushes her baby in the direction of the mammoth, who takes the baby in his trunk, and it's when she sees this that she smiles. She wasn't just smiling because she saw an elephant standing nearby. And besides, at that point her only other option for Roshan would be to keep him with her as she died, which risks him slipping into the river and drowning or being consumed by a carnivorous creature who comes along and finds him. But the only way for Roshan to be killed by a mammoth is if the mammoth accidentally steps on him, and he's more likely to be safe from predators with such a huge creature looking after him. So leaving the baby with Manny was really the only choice she had.
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* What in the hell did they feed that baby? A baby cannot live on watermelon- a baby just learning to walk is still drinking almost exclusively milk. And there weren't any other women with the humans- which also makes NO SENSE? So how did they keep it alive afterwards, anyway?
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* What in the hell did they feed that baby? A baby cannot live on watermelon- a baby just learning to walk is still drinking almost exclusively milk. And there weren't any other women with the humans- which also makes NO SENSE? no sense. So how did they keep it alive afterwards, anyway?
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** Babies learning to walk are usually around 10 months to a year old, they can eat pretty much everything by then. He could have been picking up things to eat off the ground too
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** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
** Even if they needed to feed him milk, maybe they found a lactating animal who was willing to produce some for him. Sid tries to do something similar for the three dinos he looks after in the third movie, so at least he isn't adverse to the concept.
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* WHen Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
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* WHen When Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
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* I can forgive ''Dawn of the Dinosaurs'' since it's a [[strike: rip-off]] homage to ''Film/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth''. I can't forgive ''The Meltdown'' for not offering any explanation for how two carnivorous aquatic reptiles can survive being frozen in ice for millions of years with no side-effects, other than being {{Super Persistent Predator}}s.
** Oh you mean except Scrat at the end of 1 (okay ~20,000 years, but just as bad)?
** I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "side-effects" so this may not be of any help to you, but being a dino nerd I know that the sea reptiles of the dinosaur time and the ones in the movie had a few differences in physical appearance. But WordOfGod states that the differences in appearance are because the sea reptiles were mutated from being frozen. So does mutation count as a "side-effect"?
*** Well, if Cretaceous and Maelstrom didn't have legs, they wouldn't have posed much threat to the heroes. At least it makes some sense, considering mosasaurs and ichthyosaurs descended from land reptiles.
** It's a cartoon. Things frozen in animated ice are basically immortal.
** Oh you mean except Scrat at the end of 1 (okay ~20,000 years, but just as bad)?
** I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "side-effects" so this may not be of any help to you, but being a dino nerd I know that the sea reptiles of the dinosaur time and the ones in the movie had a few differences in physical appearance. But WordOfGod states that the differences in appearance are because the sea reptiles were mutated from being frozen. So does mutation count as a "side-effect"?
*** Well, if Cretaceous and Maelstrom didn't have legs, they wouldn't have posed much threat to the heroes. At least it makes some sense, considering mosasaurs and ichthyosaurs descended from land reptiles.
** It's a cartoon. Things frozen in animated ice are basically immortal.
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** Oh you mean except Scrat at the end of 1 (okay ~20,000 years, but just as bad)?
** I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "side-effects" so this may not be of any help to you, but being a dino nerd I know that the sea reptiles of the dinosaur time and the ones in the movie had a few differences in physical appearance. But WordOfGod states that the differences in appearance are because the sea reptiles were mutated from being frozen. So does mutation count as a "side-effect"?
*** Well, if Cretaceous and Maelstrom didn't have legs, they wouldn't have posed much threat to the heroes. At least it makes some sense, considering mosasaurs and ichthyosaurs descended from land reptiles.
** It's a cartoon. Things frozen in animated ice are basically immortal.
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* In the first movie when Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
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* In the first movie when WHen Sid was hiding behind Manny from Carl and Frank, why couldn't Sid just explain to Manny that the two wanted to kill him for pleasure? Manny heard about this from Carl and Frank a few minutes later and was disgusted and horrified, so why couldn't Sid just tell him that instead of being like "Please don't let them impale me! I wanna live!"?
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* Between Ice Age and Ice Age 2, the entire ice age happens. It starts out in the first that everything is about to experience instant permafrost for the next few thousand years, and in the next, everything is melting, and a mammoth, giant ground sloth, and sabretooth cat with the same names and personalities (and, in the case of Sid, Lord of the Flame, skills) as the first movie's protagonists are experiencing the end of the ice age, and nobody thinks it would ever end, because everything has been frozen since before the earliest stories. They could have easily handwaved this, by saying it's the first movie's characters' descendants, or by not having everyone say that the ice had been there forever (the sloth priestess did say it was lava melting the ice), but they don't even bother explaining the discrepancy.
** I always thought the first movie took place near the end of the WesternAnimation/IceAge. Remember, most of the animals were headed south, where it was warmer, and Manny was moving against the flow which is how he got wrapped-up with the left-behind Sid. After the errand with the human was done, the three of them could've just followed common sense and moved south too.
*** The "Ice Age" wasn't just long stretch of permafrost. It was cyclical.
** Actually, going by the specific assortment of animals seen (and ignoring the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology dodos]]), it's pretty clear that the film is intended to be set in South America. Moving south would most likely take them into ''colder'' territory, not warmer.
*** I really don't think they were trying to make the setting be South America so much as a generic ice age American land. Bisons, brontotheres, mammoths, Gastornis and Hesperornis (two birds seen in the second movie) all come from North America and Moetherium (the things that looked like little naked tapirs) comes from Africa. [[AnachronismStew But many of those lived way before the ice age anyway, and Hesperornis was contemporary of dinosaurs]].
*** The movie gave hints of being set in all kinds of places. We see both Old Faithful and Stone Henge within less than a day's walk of each other.
*** Well, this was before Europe and North America split apart, although it still doesn't make a lot of sense.
** This world has Pangaea, non-avian dinosaurs, and Christmas, in the Ice Age. Why would you expect there to stick with the reality as to when the Ice Age starts and ends?
* In Ice Age 2, one would think that the mammoth-who-thinks-she's-a-'possum would at least realize that she's way too big to hide behind a small shrub. RuleOfFunny, yeah, but really, she should think that she was a giant 'possum rather than a normal-size 'possum who looks big for her size.
** Something tells me that she also wanted to belong with her brothers regardless of her size. That includes sleeping in groups.
** Never forget that her brothers are idiots. It's possible they thought she was a possum too for a while, and nobody ever thought to tell her.
* The buzzard chick hatches, and instead of imprinting on Scrat (or the acorn), which could have been funny, it decides the acorn (and not the squirrel) is food, and that the buzzard is its mummy. It seemed the writers were trying not to abandon ''every'' scrap of logic for the RuleOfFunny, but really, they chose oddly in deciding which scraps of logic to throw out.
* Ice Age 3. Dawn of the FRIGGIN' DINOSAURS. Anyone with any knowledge of prehistory would know that the ice age came AFTER the dinosaurs. What were they thinking?
** They were thinking that the dinosaurs would have been previously frozen in ice, probably a call back to that scene in the first one, and then thawed out, although even that concept is questionable.
** Well, they probably ran out of ideas that didn't involve things that lived after the dinosaurs. But Ice Age has never been big on being chronologically accurate anyway (the dodos, for one, are in the wrong time and place). Plus, [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs who DOESN'T want to see dinosaurs?]]
** I'm just pissed that every time I see an animated movie, I have to see that same damn trailer where there's the female squirrel AND NO FUCKING DINOSAURS. Are they even in the plot?
*** Trailers for the first two movies focused on the squirrel almost exclusively, when in fact that squirrel [[WackyWaysideTribe had little to do with the plot.]] It's kinda tradition for the series at this point.
*** This troper had a drama teacher who figured it was a deliberate tribute (or an unconscious cultural nod) to Shakespeare. To take the obvious example, ''Romeo and Juliet'' starts with two servants who have absolutely nil to do with the plot; it's a scene-setting device, just like Scrat the unfortunate squirrel.
** Based on the most recent commercials, it looks to be a lost world scenario, with the dinosaurs somehow living in an [[ArtisticLicenseBiology underground jungle]]. Huge trees and everything.
*** Writers wanted the movie to be an homage to LostWorld based fiction, especially Literature/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth so it's understandable.
*** The designer also said they were running out of giant mammals to introduce, and the lost world could be a good variant to the icy environment with mostly brown animals.
* What is it with the happy families thing they pull in 2, What kind of responsible adult would let their kids out on their own in an area known to house a carnivore (it's only Diego, but he ''is'' a carnivore)?
** We have carnivores. They are called DOGS and CATS.
*** okay, would you let your kids play outside in an area 'known' to contain a murderous cannibal (which is the only analogy that can be drawn, since we also have pet food, and cats and many dogs are smaller than anything bar a newborn)?
** I always thought the first movie took place near the end of the WesternAnimation/IceAge. Remember, most of the animals were headed south, where it was warmer, and Manny was moving against the flow which is how he got wrapped-up with the left-behind Sid. After the errand with the human was done, the three of them could've just followed common sense and moved south too.
*** The "Ice Age" wasn't just long stretch of permafrost. It was cyclical.
** Actually, going by the specific assortment of animals seen (and ignoring the [[ArtisticLicenseBiology dodos]]), it's pretty clear that the film is intended to be set in South America. Moving south would most likely take them into ''colder'' territory, not warmer.
*** I really don't think they were trying to make the setting be South America so much as a generic ice age American land. Bisons, brontotheres, mammoths, Gastornis and Hesperornis (two birds seen in the second movie) all come from North America and Moetherium (the things that looked like little naked tapirs) comes from Africa. [[AnachronismStew But many of those lived way before the ice age anyway, and Hesperornis was contemporary of dinosaurs]].
*** The movie gave hints of being set in all kinds of places. We see both Old Faithful and Stone Henge within less than a day's walk of each other.
*** Well, this was before Europe and North America split apart, although it still doesn't make a lot of sense.
** This world has Pangaea, non-avian dinosaurs, and Christmas, in the Ice Age. Why would you expect there to stick with the reality as to when the Ice Age starts and ends?
* In Ice Age 2, one would think that the mammoth-who-thinks-she's-a-'possum would at least realize that she's way too big to hide behind a small shrub. RuleOfFunny, yeah, but really, she should think that she was a giant 'possum rather than a normal-size 'possum who looks big for her size.
** Something tells me that she also wanted to belong with her brothers regardless of her size. That includes sleeping in groups.
** Never forget that her brothers are idiots. It's possible they thought she was a possum too for a while, and nobody ever thought to tell her.
* The buzzard chick hatches, and instead of imprinting on Scrat (or the acorn), which could have been funny, it decides the acorn (and not the squirrel) is food, and that the buzzard is its mummy. It seemed the writers were trying not to abandon ''every'' scrap of logic for the RuleOfFunny, but really, they chose oddly in deciding which scraps of logic to throw out.
* Ice Age 3. Dawn of the FRIGGIN' DINOSAURS. Anyone with any knowledge of prehistory would know that the ice age came AFTER the dinosaurs. What were they thinking?
** They were thinking that the dinosaurs would have been previously frozen in ice, probably a call back to that scene in the first one, and then thawed out, although even that concept is questionable.
** Well, they probably ran out of ideas that didn't involve things that lived after the dinosaurs. But Ice Age has never been big on being chronologically accurate anyway (the dodos, for one, are in the wrong time and place). Plus, [[EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs who DOESN'T want to see dinosaurs?]]
** I'm just pissed that every time I see an animated movie, I have to see that same damn trailer where there's the female squirrel AND NO FUCKING DINOSAURS. Are they even in the plot?
*** Trailers for the first two movies focused on the squirrel almost exclusively, when in fact that squirrel [[WackyWaysideTribe had little to do with the plot.]] It's kinda tradition for the series at this point.
*** This troper had a drama teacher who figured it was a deliberate tribute (or an unconscious cultural nod) to Shakespeare. To take the obvious example, ''Romeo and Juliet'' starts with two servants who have absolutely nil to do with the plot; it's a scene-setting device, just like Scrat the unfortunate squirrel.
** Based on the most recent commercials, it looks to be a lost world scenario, with the dinosaurs somehow living in an [[ArtisticLicenseBiology underground jungle]]. Huge trees and everything.
*** Writers wanted the movie to be an homage to LostWorld based fiction, especially Literature/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth so it's understandable.
*** The designer also said they were running out of giant mammals to introduce, and the lost world could be a good variant to the icy environment with mostly brown animals.
* What is it with the happy families thing they pull in 2, What kind of responsible adult would let their kids out on their own in an area known to house a carnivore (it's only Diego, but he ''is'' a carnivore)?
** We have carnivores. They are called DOGS and CATS.
*** okay, would you let your kids play outside in an area 'known' to contain a murderous cannibal (which is the only analogy that can be drawn, since we also have pet food, and cats and many dogs are smaller than anything bar a newborn)?
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* The flashback of Manny in Ice Age 1. I haven't seen the movie in a few years so maybe my memory has been jogged but..[[spoiler:Was the baby Manny? Or was the adult Manny?]]
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* The flashback of Manny in Ice Age 1.Manny. I haven't seen the movie in a few years so maybe my memory has been jogged but..[[spoiler:Was the baby Manny? Or was the adult Manny?]]
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* FridgeLogic: Mostly the context of the fight VS Rudy - a) how did it know to wait for them in that cave? and b) how did it even fit inside in the first place without wrecking the cave door? It's HUGE!
** Rudy is suposed to be intelligent and he was tracking them.
** He was not exactly ''there'' in the cave that leads to the LostWorld, his roar is just loud.
** How did the eggs wind up in the ice cave in the first place?
*** Think about it. Where's the safest place to hide vulnerable unhatched offspring from predators? Somewhere they would never go. Hence, cave. It's not Mama's fault Sid decided to [[strike: adopt]] steal them.
*** I think the OP may have been referring to how the T rex got them there in the first place. If I remember correctly they had to walk over a path of bones over a fall to get there that would of broke under the weight, and the cave probably wasn't tall enough for her to get in there with out breaking it. If that isn't what he/she was referring to, then it's a new question.
*** The simple answer is that there's multiple ways up and Mama used a different one. Maybe she even blocked it off so nobody but her could get to it.
* Did this movie kill the dinosaurs?
** No. Watch the third movie.
** [[Film/BatmanAndRobin I see what you did there...]]
*** [[DontExplainTheJoke Quiet, you.]]
* In Ice Age 2 after Manny [[spoiler: flings Crash into the tree]] Ellie yells at him and then claims believing crash accually could was Manny's fault. REALLY? and she's supposed to be his WIFE
** She's supposed to be his wife AFTER the events of the second movie. Chronology, folks!
*** I understand, and I love Ellie's character usually, and maybe she was just worried about her "brother" but what happens when Peaches gets hurt (as most little kids do) will she yell at Manny for that?
*** Again, chronology. They had time enough to make a kid between the two movies(20 months or more, assuming mammoths and elephants have roughly the same gestation period). They changed.
* Just how long before the third film's events did Buck have his near-fatal encounter with Rudy? Carnosaurs like Rudy replaced their teeth when they were damaged, yet he's still missing a tooth in the film.
** It's to make the character distinctive and to give a visual aid as to why they're rivals in the first place. Plus, it makes Buck more CrazyAwesome.
*** Also note that Rudy has a scar where the tooth used to be. Buck might have done perminate damage that prevented a tooth from growing there, making for even more reason for a grudge.
** Rudy is suposed to be intelligent and he was tracking them.
** He was not exactly ''there'' in the cave that leads to the LostWorld, his roar is just loud.
** How did the eggs wind up in the ice cave in the first place?
*** Think about it. Where's the safest place to hide vulnerable unhatched offspring from predators? Somewhere they would never go. Hence, cave. It's not Mama's fault Sid decided to [[strike: adopt]] steal them.
*** I think the OP may have been referring to how the T rex got them there in the first place. If I remember correctly they had to walk over a path of bones over a fall to get there that would of broke under the weight, and the cave probably wasn't tall enough for her to get in there with out breaking it. If that isn't what he/she was referring to, then it's a new question.
*** The simple answer is that there's multiple ways up and Mama used a different one. Maybe she even blocked it off so nobody but her could get to it.
* Did this movie kill the dinosaurs?
** No. Watch the third movie.
** [[Film/BatmanAndRobin I see what you did there...]]
*** [[DontExplainTheJoke Quiet, you.]]
* In Ice Age 2 after Manny [[spoiler: flings Crash into the tree]] Ellie yells at him and then claims believing crash accually could was Manny's fault. REALLY? and she's supposed to be his WIFE
** She's supposed to be his wife AFTER the events of the second movie. Chronology, folks!
*** I understand, and I love Ellie's character usually, and maybe she was just worried about her "brother" but what happens when Peaches gets hurt (as most little kids do) will she yell at Manny for that?
*** Again, chronology. They had time enough to make a kid between the two movies(20 months or more, assuming mammoths and elephants have roughly the same gestation period). They changed.
* Just how long before the third film's events did Buck have his near-fatal encounter with Rudy? Carnosaurs like Rudy replaced their teeth when they were damaged, yet he's still missing a tooth in the film.
** It's to make the character distinctive and to give a visual aid as to why they're rivals in the first place. Plus, it makes Buck more CrazyAwesome.
*** Also note that Rudy has a scar where the tooth used to be. Buck might have done perminate damage that prevented a tooth from growing there, making for even more reason for a grudge.
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* In Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs, why was Ellie mad at Manny after he and the others got out of the helium/laughing gas? He asks her how much she heard and she says she heard everything. I didn't hear him say anything about her? Was she mad about what he and Diego had said to each other
** She's not mad, they're embarassed because they were being stupid and she overheard them.
* In Ice Age 2, A Piranha eats Scrat's acorn, but after Scrat beats them up, he get the acorn out of another Piranha. How is this possible?
** The Piranha Scrat gets the acorn out of is the same Piranha Scrat used to whack the Piranha that ate the acorn. It is possible that the acorn was knocked out of one mouth and went into the other.
** She's not mad, they're embarassed because they were being stupid and she overheard them.
* In Ice Age 2, A Piranha eats Scrat's acorn, but after Scrat beats them up, he get the acorn out of another Piranha. How is this possible?
** The Piranha Scrat gets the acorn out of is the same Piranha Scrat used to whack the Piranha that ate the acorn. It is possible that the acorn was knocked out of one mouth and went into the other.
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* Is there a reason Gupta In the fourth movie is welding a knife that ''looks exactly like Buck's knife'' from the third movie? My first thought to this was [[FridgeHorror "Omg, he killed Buck?!"]]
** This also seriously creeped me out, especially because every other weapon in the movie, no matter how minor, has its own unique design. But then suddenly, this knife appears. Exactly like Buck's. But I think it's unlikely, because Buck was seen in the start of the movie riding Rudy. On the other hand, that was before the continents split and the oceans appeared in-between [and further more, the continents split exactly on the place where Buck was], so it is entirely within the realm of possibiliy that the [[LostWorld Lost World]] of the dinosaurs was flooded and he was marooned, where Gutt found and had Gupta murder our favorite little [[BuffySpeak ferret-thingy]]. [[FridgeHorror Fridge Horror]] indeed.
*** Considering all the skulls they have for grappling, it's likely that they either found a skeleton with a tooth that big or they killed a prehistoric shark.
*** Or alternately, the tooth belongs to ''Momma T-Rex''. It's entirely likely that when the [[LostWorld Lost World]] of the dinosaurs was flooded and she was marooned and badly injured, Gutt and his crew found her and killed her, Gupta taking her tooth to use as a weapon.
** Well, Buck will come back for ''Ice Age 5: Collosion Course'', so maybe Buck did just loose his knife while the continent broke apart and the pirates found it.
** Alternatively, it's just a regular knife that was designed to resemble Buck's as an easter egg.
* The sirens - are they magic or something? It's definitely more than just a mental illusion, since Scrat was able to pound one disguised as an acorn into the ground like any other acorn, and then the others transformed into floating acorns and pounded him.
** While I'm not entirely familiar with how the siren mythology goes, they're rarely mental illusions, but real objects, such as an element having been enchanted with a magic presence in the shape of/or with the voice of a beautiful woman, luring the listener in by their beauty/their voice's beauty before killing the victim. As an example, watch the siren scene from Dreamworks' ''WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MV7ChV3anA]]
** This also seriously creeped me out, especially because every other weapon in the movie, no matter how minor, has its own unique design. But then suddenly, this knife appears. Exactly like Buck's. But I think it's unlikely, because Buck was seen in the start of the movie riding Rudy. On the other hand, that was before the continents split and the oceans appeared in-between [and further more, the continents split exactly on the place where Buck was], so it is entirely within the realm of possibiliy that the [[LostWorld Lost World]] of the dinosaurs was flooded and he was marooned, where Gutt found and had Gupta murder our favorite little [[BuffySpeak ferret-thingy]]. [[FridgeHorror Fridge Horror]] indeed.
*** Considering all the skulls they have for grappling, it's likely that they either found a skeleton with a tooth that big or they killed a prehistoric shark.
*** Or alternately, the tooth belongs to ''Momma T-Rex''. It's entirely likely that when the [[LostWorld Lost World]] of the dinosaurs was flooded and she was marooned and badly injured, Gutt and his crew found her and killed her, Gupta taking her tooth to use as a weapon.
** Well, Buck will come back for ''Ice Age 5: Collosion Course'', so maybe Buck did just loose his knife while the continent broke apart and the pirates found it.
** Alternatively, it's just a regular knife that was designed to resemble Buck's as an easter egg.
* The sirens - are they magic or something? It's definitely more than just a mental illusion, since Scrat was able to pound one disguised as an acorn into the ground like any other acorn, and then the others transformed into floating acorns and pounded him.
** While I'm not entirely familiar with how the siren mythology goes, they're rarely mental illusions, but real objects, such as an element having been enchanted with a magic presence in the shape of/or with the voice of a beautiful woman, luring the listener in by their beauty/their voice's beauty before killing the victim. As an example, watch the siren scene from Dreamworks' ''WesternAnimation/SinbadLegendOfTheSevenSeas'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MV7ChV3anA]]
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* In the 4th movie, how did Captain Gutt know where the continent was and how did he beat Manny and the gang there, despite them having a huge head start on him?
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*** Except that holiday wouldn't have been called Christmas then, as these characters are clearly calling it, which is just ridiculous, because it wouldn't even be called that if it weren't for Christ. (Just think, his name is in the word: "Christ"mas.)
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*** Except that holiday wouldn't have been called Christmas then, as these characters are clearly calling it, which is just ridiculous, because it wouldn't even be called that if it weren't for Christ. (Just think, his name is in the word: "Christ"mas.''Christ''mas.)
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*** Except that holiday wouldn't have been called Christmas then, as these characters are clearly calling it, which is just ridiculous, because it wouldn't even be called that if it weren't for Christ. (Just think, his name is in the word: "Christ"mas.)
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** Wasn't there also an Easter special, even though even that holiday would not exist if Christ hadn't come to Earth?
