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* In the series, Princess Jasmine on several occasions demonstrates that she has all the skills needed to act as a highly skilled spy, scout, thief and criminal gang leader. To quote Aladdin himself, "Where does a princess learn this stuff?"
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* In the series, Princess Jasmine on several occasions demonstrates that she has all the skills needed to act as a highly skilled spy, scout, thief and criminal gang leader. To quote Aladdin himself, "Where does a princess learn this stuff?"stuff?"
** Precisely because she's a princess, she can learn whatever she wants.
** Precisely because she's a princess, she can learn whatever she wants.
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* How was the Mukhtar any threat to Genie? Even with his powers being reduced from being freed, he was still ''a genie'', capable of all sorts of powerful, reality-warping magic. The Mukhtar was just athletic and pretty good with a sword. His biggest threat were his little biting manacle-things, but they could be taken out by a baseball bat (as Genie himself proved in one scene). Literally all Genie had to do any time the Mukhtar got too close for his liking was teleport him to the other side of the planet.
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* How was the Mukhtar any threat to Genie? Even with his powers being reduced from being freed, he was still ''a genie'', capable of all sorts of powerful, reality-warping magic. The Mukhtar was just athletic and pretty good with a sword. His biggest threat were his little biting manacle-things, but they could be taken out by a baseball bat (as Genie himself proved in one scene). Literally all Genie had to do any time the Mukhtar got too close for his liking was teleport him to the other side of the planet.planet.
* In the series, Princess Jasmine on several occasions demonstrates that she has all the skills needed to act as a highly skilled spy, scout, thief and criminal gang leader. To quote Aladdin himself, "Where does a princess learn this stuff?"
* In the series, Princess Jasmine on several occasions demonstrates that she has all the skills needed to act as a highly skilled spy, scout, thief and criminal gang leader. To quote Aladdin himself, "Where does a princess learn this stuff?"
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* If a sizable portion of the series still isn't out on any home video format (as mentioned under 'keep circulating the tapes'), how can there be an image of 'Aladdin - The Complete Series' on DVD on the main page?
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* If a sizable portion of the series still isn't out on any home video format (as mentioned under 'keep circulating the tapes'), how can there be an image of 'Aladdin - The Complete Series' on DVD on the main page?page?
* How was the Mukhtar any threat to Genie? Even with his powers being reduced from being freed, he was still ''a genie'', capable of all sorts of powerful, reality-warping magic. The Mukhtar was just athletic and pretty good with a sword. His biggest threat were his little biting manacle-things, but they could be taken out by a baseball bat (as Genie himself proved in one scene). Literally all Genie had to do any time the Mukhtar got too close for his liking was teleport him to the other side of the planet.
* How was the Mukhtar any threat to Genie? Even with his powers being reduced from being freed, he was still ''a genie'', capable of all sorts of powerful, reality-warping magic. The Mukhtar was just athletic and pretty good with a sword. His biggest threat were his little biting manacle-things, but they could be taken out by a baseball bat (as Genie himself proved in one scene). Literally all Genie had to do any time the Mukhtar got too close for his liking was teleport him to the other side of the planet.
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** Do you really think Mozenrath would give an idiot pawn magical items he actually cared about?
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** Do you really think Mozenrath would give an idiot pawn magical items he actually cared about?about?
* If a sizable portion of the series still isn't out on any home video format (as mentioned under 'keep circulating the tapes'), how can there be an image of 'Aladdin - The Complete Series' on DVD on the main page?
* If a sizable portion of the series still isn't out on any home video format (as mentioned under 'keep circulating the tapes'), how can there be an image of 'Aladdin - The Complete Series' on DVD on the main page?
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*** Could be--the Norse pantheon was shown to exist in the Disney/{{Hercules}} animated series.
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*** Could be--the Norse pantheon was shown to exist in the Disney/{{Hercules}} animated series.''WesternAnimation/HerculesTheAnimatedSeries''.
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** Sadira's episodes had her working by herself, with a monster as her hostile servant, and with a trio of sand witches in the same episode where she started mending fences with Aladdin. She wouldn't be one to subordinate herself to Mozenrath handsome or not.
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** Sadira's episodes had her working by herself, with a monster as her hostile servant, and with a trio of sand witches in the same episode where she started mending fences with Aladdin. She wouldn't be one to subordinate herself to Mozenrath handsome or not.
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** In the third film, there is an artifact called Hand of Midas, which turns everything into gold, implying that the story of King Midas has already happened and is known in the Arab world of films.
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* In the episode Vocal Hero, the plot mainly revolves around Amin Damoola bungling the use of several magical items that look... less than spectacular, including a pair of flying shoes that don't take him anywhere near where he wants to go (and that kick him if he takes them off) and a cotton swab that fires like a ballistic weapon. Pretty standard for Amin...until the Reveal comes halfway through the episode that he's working for Mozenrath, who supplied him with those magical gadgets. This means that the defective shoes and the cotton swab actually BELONGED to the villain who's considered the greatest threat in the series, and probably long before Amin came along. To top this off, the cotton swab was used--Amin kisses it and remarks that it tastes like earwax--and Amin didn't know about it. That's right: Mozenrath was hoarding a cotton swab with all his other precious magical items, USED it, and then passed it off to someone else. OutOfCharacter, much ?
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* In the episode Vocal Hero, the plot mainly revolves around Amin Damoola bungling the use of several magical items that look... less than spectacular, including a pair of flying shoes that don't take him anywhere near where he wants to go (and that kick him if he takes them off) and a cotton swab that fires like a ballistic weapon. Pretty standard for Amin...until the Reveal comes halfway through the episode that he's working for Mozenrath, who supplied him with those magical gadgets. This means that the defective shoes and the cotton swab actually BELONGED to the villain who's considered the greatest threat in the series, and probably long before Amin came along. To top this off, the cotton swab was used--Amin kisses it and remarks that it tastes like earwax--and Amin didn't know about it. That's right: Mozenrath was hoarding a cotton swab with all his other precious magical items, USED it, and then passed it off to someone else. OutOfCharacter, much ?much?
** Do you really think Mozenrath would give an idiot pawn magical items he actually cared about?
** Do you really think Mozenrath would give an idiot pawn magical items he actually cared about?
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** In two of those three cases, it's less of a team-up than a villain using a catspaw. Only an idiot would throw in with Mechanicles the lunatic, and only a sucker would work for a BadBoss like Mozenrath or Ayam Aghoul. Mirage doesn't team up because her power is so great that anyone short of Hades would be useless to her.
** None of this applies to Sadira, though, who is both powerful ''and'' an idiot and would make a perfect unwitting minion for Mozenrath (who is also handsome, at least with his robes and gauntlet on, which plays to Sadira's petty motivations). Guess they just never got around to it.
** None of this applies to Sadira, though, who is both powerful ''and'' an idiot and would make a perfect unwitting minion for Mozenrath (who is also handsome, at least with his robes and gauntlet on, which plays to Sadira's petty motivations). Guess they just never got around to it.
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** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when Mozenrath teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see him working with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.
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** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when Mozenrath teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see him working with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.other.
* In the episode Vocal Hero, the plot mainly revolves around Amin Damoola bungling the use of several magical items that look... less than spectacular, including a pair of flying shoes that don't take him anywhere near where he wants to go (and that kick him if he takes them off) and a cotton swab that fires like a ballistic weapon. Pretty standard for Amin...until the Reveal comes halfway through the episode that he's working for Mozenrath, who supplied him with those magical gadgets. This means that the defective shoes and the cotton swab actually BELONGED to the villain who's considered the greatest threat in the series, and probably long before Amin came along. To top this off, the cotton swab was used--Amin kisses it and remarks that it tastes like earwax--and Amin didn't know about it. That's right: Mozenrath was hoarding a cotton swab with all his other precious magical items, USED it, and then passed it off to someone else. OutOfCharacter, much ?
* In the episode Vocal Hero, the plot mainly revolves around Amin Damoola bungling the use of several magical items that look... less than spectacular, including a pair of flying shoes that don't take him anywhere near where he wants to go (and that kick him if he takes them off) and a cotton swab that fires like a ballistic weapon. Pretty standard for Amin...until the Reveal comes halfway through the episode that he's working for Mozenrath, who supplied him with those magical gadgets. This means that the defective shoes and the cotton swab actually BELONGED to the villain who's considered the greatest threat in the series, and probably long before Amin came along. To top this off, the cotton swab was used--Amin kisses it and remarks that it tastes like earwax--and Amin didn't know about it. That's right: Mozenrath was hoarding a cotton swab with all his other precious magical items, USED it, and then passed it off to someone else. OutOfCharacter, much ?
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** The simplest answer is that Chaos didn't just copy Aladdin, but all of Aladdin's personal possessions, including the lamp Genie was bound to. Now while Good Aladdin freed Genie (and it was a very close thing at that), thus making the lamp have nothing but sentimental value, evil Aladdin did not, and thus Evil Genie. Abu and Carpet were not copied because they're neither possessions of Aladdin nor bound to an artifact that is.
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** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with the their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when he teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see Mozenrath getting along with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.
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** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with the their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when he Mozenrath teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see Mozenrath getting along him working with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.
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* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. I would include Aziz and Jarfar, but they are both dead. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.
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* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. I would include Aziz and Jarfar, but they are both dead. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.Aladdin.
** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with the their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when he teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see Mozenrath getting along with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.
** Going from the times where major villains DID team-up (Mechanicles and Abis Mal, Amin Damoola and Mozenrath, Jafar and Hades) the villains would end up squabbling and ruin each-other with the their conflicting goals and personalities. I mean, considering what happened when he teamed up with Khartoum (he got tricked into unleashing the sorcerer who proceeded to turn on him) I don't see Mozenrath getting along with Mirage or Ayam Aghoul without one side backstabbing the other.
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*** The show never mentions any religion as such but characters in it do refer to some gods, the villain Mechanicles is Greek and constantly mentions "Zeus" as in "Dear Zeus", whilst all Arab characters normally say "Allah" (which means "god" in Arabic and is the name of use for some pagan pre-Islamic deities), thus considering that Zeus was a pagan deity and Greek were already Orthodox Christian for the moment Islam existed, that means Aladdin does happens in a pre-Christian and therefore pre-Islamic period.
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*** The show never mentions any religion as such but characters in it do refer to some gods, the villain Mechanicles is Greek and constantly mentions "Zeus" as in "Dear Zeus", whilst all Arab characters normally say "Allah" (which means "god" in Arabic and is the name of use for some pagan pre-Islamic deities), thus considering that Zeus was a pagan deity and Greek Greeks were already Orthodox Christian Christians for the moment Islam existed, that means Aladdin does happens in a pre-Christian and therefore pre-Islamic period.
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*** The show never mentions any religion as such but characters in it do refer to some gods, the villain Mechanicles is Greek and constantly mentions "Zeus" as in "Dear Zeus", whilst all Arab characters normally say "Allah" (which means "god" in Arabic and is the name of use for some pagan pre-Islamic deities), thus considering that Zeus was a pagan deity and Greek were already Orthodox Christian for the moment Islam existed, that means Aladdin does happens in a pre-Christian and therefore pre-Islamic period.
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* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.
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* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. I would include Aziz and Jarfar, but they are both dead. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.
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** One step down on the ladder of power isn't such a bad place to be, especially if you like Haroud are a smart second-in-command to a stupid boss. It means you get to pretty much do as you like because your stupid boss is easily manipulated... and if things go wrong (which they inevitably will for a gang of bad guys in a Disney cartoon), the rest of the gang will blame and try to take revenge on the stupid boss, not you.
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** One step down on the ladder of power isn't such a bad place to be, especially if you like Haroud are a smart second-in-command to a stupid boss. It means you get to pretty much do as you like because your stupid boss is easily manipulated... and if things go wrong (which they inevitably will for a gang of bad guys in a Disney cartoon), the rest of the gang will blame and try to take revenge on the stupid boss, not you.you.
* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.
* Why aren't there many villain team ups on the show? Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul are three of the most powerful villains in the series who pose a serious threat to Aladdin and his friends. Each villain could conquer the world single-handedly if Aladdin wasn't around, but he is. Imagine if they team up, they could succeed in killing Aladdin.
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** The explanation is very simple: I don't know if you've noticed, as it can be a pretty subtle part of his characterization, but Abis Mal... isn't all that bright.
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* As a kid, I thought of Haroud as Aladdin's true nemesis instead of Abis Mal. He seems like an intelligent guy, so why does he put up with his boss's foolishness and incompetence? I'm surprised he doesn't kill Abis Mal and take over his gang.
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* As a kid, I thought of Haroud as Aladdin's true nemesis instead of Abis Mal. He seems like an intelligent guy, so why does he put up with his boss's foolishness and incompetence? I'm surprised he doesn't kill Abis Mal and take over his gang.gang.
** One step down on the ladder of power isn't such a bad place to be, especially if you like Haroud are a smart second-in-command to a stupid boss. It means you get to pretty much do as you like because your stupid boss is easily manipulated... and if things go wrong (which they inevitably will for a gang of bad guys in a Disney cartoon), the rest of the gang will blame and try to take revenge on the stupid boss, not you.
** One step down on the ladder of power isn't such a bad place to be, especially if you like Haroud are a smart second-in-command to a stupid boss. It means you get to pretty much do as you like because your stupid boss is easily manipulated... and if things go wrong (which they inevitably will for a gang of bad guys in a Disney cartoon), the rest of the gang will blame and try to take revenge on the stupid boss, not you.
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want Agrabah. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for giant monsters and evil sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want Agrabah. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for giant monsters and evil sorcerers?sorcerers?
* As a kid, I thought of Haroud as Aladdin's true nemesis instead of Abis Mal. He seems like an intelligent guy, so why does he put up with his boss's foolishness and incompetence? I'm surprised he doesn't kill Abis Mal and take over his gang.
* As a kid, I thought of Haroud as Aladdin's true nemesis instead of Abis Mal. He seems like an intelligent guy, so why does he put up with his boss's foolishness and incompetence? I'm surprised he doesn't kill Abis Mal and take over his gang.
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want Agrabah. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for monsters and evil sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want Agrabah. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for giant monsters and evil sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for monsters and evil sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city.Agrabah. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a new city where it's not a magnet for monsters and evil sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? His time as Sultan would be short lived. Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters and evil sorcerors?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? His time as Sultan would be short lived. Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Why not find a peaceful new city where it's not a magnet for monsters and evil sorcerors?sorcerers?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? His time as Sultan would be short lived. Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? His time as Sultan would be short lived. Plus, there are super powerful villains out there who also want the city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters?monsters and evil sorcerors?
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? He has no super powers. Plus, there are powerful SUPER villains out there who want the city as well. If he had succeeded in killing Aladdin and his friends, he would have to deal with Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters? He also wouldn't have to deal with Aladdin.
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* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? He has no super powers. His time as Sultan would be short lived. Plus, there are super powerful SUPER villains out there who also want the city as well. If he had succeeded in killing Aladdin and his friends, he would have to deal with city. Abis Mal wouldn't last 5 minutes against Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters? He also wouldn't have to deal with Aladdin.monsters?
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*** The tone of her voice suggests she hadn't even ''thought'' about that.that.
* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? He has no super powers. Plus, there are powerful SUPER villains out there who want the city as well. If he had succeeded in killing Aladdin and his friends, he would have to deal with Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters? He also wouldn't have to deal with Aladdin.
* Is Abis Mal aware of the monsters and demons that attack Agrabah every so often? Why would he want to rule the city? He has no super powers. Plus, there are powerful SUPER villains out there who want the city as well. If he had succeeded in killing Aladdin and his friends, he would have to deal with Mozenrath, Mirage, and Ayam Aghoul. Why not find a peaceful city where it's not a magnet for monsters? He also wouldn't have to deal with Aladdin.
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* How come Jafar hasn't tried attacking Aladdin/Jasmine again? - Yes, the lamp was destroyed, but if genie's are immortal, how come his soul hasn't emerged and attacked people instead of just lazing about in death - it may have destroyed his body; but what about his powers and spirit? Anyway, the crossover establishes that he'd be friendly enough with Hades; so couldn't he pull a few strings?
** Remember what Genie said in "The Return of Jafar". "You destroy Jafar's lamp, you destroy Jafar". Never saw the crossover (I personally ignore them due to bizarreness), but genies are not invulnerable in Aladdin continuity. They might not die of natural causes, but genies can be killed.
** As I recall the crossover, he wasn't "friendly enough with Hades" at all... he wound up in the Underworld after his lamp was destroyed, he and Hades actually didn't like each other ''at all'', but they agreed to work together to try and screw over their respective nemeses. After it didn't work Hades probably said "Screw this guy" and set Jafar to pushing a boulder made of fishhooks up a hill made of glass shards or something.
* If the people in Aladdin believe in Allah then why did Jafar go to the Greek Underworld when he died?
** This was answered in the episode itself by Jafar. "You see, there's been a grievous error."
** Just because they believe it doesn't make it true.
** Its a huge Main/ContinuitySnarl to facilitate the crossover. The Aladdin film establishes the time period as being medieval with the presence of Islam but the series backdates to the pre-roman period to be contemporary with Hercules. I can't remember if reference was made to religion in the Aladdin series, but either way the series characters are rendered non-Muslim.
*** In the song, "Prince Ali", Genie mentions 'galloping hordes', easily Huns, making it circa 300-400 AD, ripe time for Greek/Roman Mythology, pre-Islam, no ContinuitySnarl.
*** It could just as easily involve the Mongols, which would be after the foundation of Islam.
*** Or the "galloping hordes" could actually be the Christian Crusaders; but this would all be better on Wild Mass Guessing.
** It could be that in the underworld, time doesn't actually exist. Therefore, someone who dies years after Hercules' time would still be there to be glimpsed, like Jafar.
*** Several characters in the first Aladdin movie mention Allah.
*** Saying "Allah" doesn't make them Muslims. It's the Arabic word for God, and in fact is used by Arabic speakers of other religions, particularly Christianity and Judaism.
*** Not that big a deal. The real Arabian Nights similarly anachronistically puts the word "Allah" in the mouths of characters from ancient folktales that pre-date Islam, or stories from other countries that weren't Muslim. This is common practice for authentic written collections of folklore, just like the anachronistic use of Catholicism (and everything else) in the original King Arthur legends. The * original* original Aladdin was supposed to be a * Chinese* boy, meaning that the Arabian Nights' use of terms like "Allah" and "djinn" throughout is thoroughly out-of-place.
*** Not necessarily; there has long been a large Muslim population in China and the character ''does'' have an Arabic name. Also, some Muslims speculate that "Allah" is not really an Arabic word. They say instead that it is the special name by which God likes to be called and they claim it was used by all the prophets, from Adam to Muhammad.
*** And to make things more confusing, one of the Delhi Sultans, by the name of 'Alah ad-Din' actually financed his army and rise to the throne using the treasure he gained from a Deccani Sultan's underground treasure chamber, making this bit at least TruthInTelevision. He also married the Deccani Sultan's daughter, thus gaining Treasure and a Princess by journeying to the 'Cave of Wonders'
** As for the "real" universe of Disney's Aladdin, isn't it pretty clear by now that Agrabah takes place in a fantasy universe only thematically related to the real world and the real Islamic empire? All of this is to some degree moot -- the fact that the Genie has been trapped for "ten thousand years" at the beginning of the first movie and yet we get flashbacks to his earlier masters still existing in a recognizably "Arabian" civilization means this universe * can't* take place in historical time.
*** This Troper's knowledge of Islam and Greek religions is shaky at best, but he would put money on the idea that Jafar would not go to Heaven. Just for the sake of speculation, we might assume that Islam's Hell and Greek's Tartarus are, if not the same place, at least concurrent in some way. Thus, when Jafar gets what's coming to him, he could gain the attention of Hades, more easily than perhaps normally given Jafar's tendency to stand out in a crowd.
** It could just be like the WesternAnimation/SouthPark where it turns out, to many people of various faith's chagrin that "the correct religion was Mormonism". "It turns out the Greeks were right", perhaps?
** You guys, '''he was an evil sorcerer'''. This more than just disqualifies him as an observant Muslim -- occultists tend to develop their own weird theologies if they're religious at all. Even if everyone else in the movies is Muslim, it's possible that he ''did'' believe in the Greek underworld, or that he just got shunted into it due to the nature of his occult dealings.
** I happen to be a Muslim and nothing in Aladdin implied the characters were Muslim at all, it is much more likely it was of the theories above, they simply used the Arabic term for God.
** Who what now? When does Jafar go to the Greek underworld?
*** An episode of the Hercules animated series, "Hercules and the Arabian Night", has Jafar showing up in Hades. The two villains wind up teaming up in an attempt to defeat Hercules and Aladdin by getting them to fight each other.
** Maybe there are multiple underworlds and Jafar applied for a transfer.
*** Could be--the Norse pantheon was shown to exist in the Disney/{{Hercules}} animated series.
* If the Genie was freed in the first movie, why do some people in the series still act like he's a possession of Aladdin, or one of his powers? Mozenrath was jealous of Aladdin for getting magical power the easy way (by "having" a genie), for instance. And when Chaos created an evil copy of Aladdin, it came with an evil Genie, to which Chaos reacted with mild surprise, then realized was a logical consequence of copying Aladdin (whereas his pet monkey was apparently an independent enough entity to not be copied).
** Maybe that's not because he's a "genie" but because he's the designated goofy Main/{{Sidekick}}-slash-bodyguard of Main/TheHero. He's part of Main/TheHero's package.
*** Ewww.
*** "Is that a lamp in your pocket, or..." *gets coat*
** In the Aladdinverse, you normally have to pick out three carefully-worded wishes to get anything from a genie. Aladdin has a genie sidekick who does all sorts of fun things for him without being Bound By The Rules Of The Genie (tm).
** Considering how awed Genie was that Aladdin set him free, it's probably a rare (if not unique) thing in their world. Most people would therefore assume that ''any'' genie has a master. For that matter, given how powerful Genie is, believing that he's being controlled by a human is probably a comfort to many people: this particular specimen might be harmless goofball, but genies in folklore were ''dangerous'', and didn't have a can't-kill-anyone rule to keep their behavior in check.
** On Abu not being copied, I'm actually going to argue storyline here. I'm not sure which aired first, but the series did have a two-part episode that, among other things, gave Abu a backstory (as well as adding significantly to Aladdin's). Makes sense to me that that version of Aladdin would never have met Abu, or wouldn't have cared enough to initiate the events that led to Abu and Aladdin teaming up. Of course, this is Chaos we're talking about, so it may be pointless to try to apply logic to this...
** Well, if we're taking the evil Aladdin's previous actions into account, then there's a good chance his third wish was "I wish you were my slave." In that case, the evil Genie might be considered a piece of equipment. As for Mozenrath... He obviously just doesn't understand ThePowerOfFriendship.
*** Slight problem . . . would the Chaos version of Aladdin still be considered a diamond in the rough, the primary criterion for obtaining possession of the genie in the first place?
*** In his own twisted and evil universe he would've been the paragon of evilness just as the real Aladdin is a paragon of righteousness, so yes.
*** One of the big rules the Genie laid down in the beginning was you can't wish for infinite wishes.
*** Not quite true. In an episode of the TV series, the orphan girl master of Genie's girlfriend accidentally wishes she and her genie could "always be together". The genie is bound to serve and look after the girl until she dies.
*** Which was most likely done out of desire for a parental figure, and is less servitude than it is filling an emotional gap. It's also adorable.
*** Chaos copy could use different rules, as far as we know. Or, Evil Aladdin being a polar opposite, is smart and worded an iron-strength wish that translate as "Make every wish of mine true from now to eternity".
** On the show, most people assumed that all of Aladdin's non-human friends belonged to him; one non-villain even referred to Abu, Iago, and the Genie as Aladdin's "pets," which understandably pissed them off. Also, I to remember the episode where Chaos made an evil Aladdin, and guess how Aladdin stopped him? He used the copy's lamp, having guessed correctly that an evil Aladdin would've never freed his Genie. Ha! I is answers!
*** Indeed, the evil Aladdin never freed his genie, and never met Abu. Evil Aladdin probably just saved up his wishes, and used them sparingly.
** You don't need to use infinite wishes or anything like that to make a Genie stick around and help you. You just need one or two ''open ended'' wishes. Wish for something along the lines of, "Protect me from any unnatural death/future attack," and "Help me defeat my enemies, both present and future." Any spells the Genie slings from then on would simply be counted as part of those two wishes, and you hold the third in reserve so it doesn't close out the contract.
** The Genie is Aladdin's {{Familiar}}. He owes Aladdin his freedom, so it makes sense he'd magically bond himself to Al to look out for him in any way that he can while still being free of the lamp.
* Since when did Iago become a regular character in the series and had a HeelFaceTurn? I remember in the first movie [[spoiler: He was trapped in the lamp with Jafar.]] How did he become Aladdin's ally?
** Watch the second movie.
* In the TV show, Sadira switches places with Jasmine, and everyone except the animals is fooled. So... Why were animals immune? Why was Genie affected? This spell is powerful enough to fool a semi-powerful supernatural being, but for some reason animals are overlooked?
** It's explicitly stated in a later episode that although Sadira possesses a very potent kind of magic, she isn't at all good with it. In fact most of her villainy has to do with her being unable to control whatever she summons. It's not that strange that her reality-warping spell has a few bugs she couldn't iron out.
-->'''Sadira''': The ''animals''! The spell didn't work on the ''animals''! (''after she realizes the resident critters can see through the spell that switched her with Jasmine'')
*** The tone of her voice suggests she hadn't even ''thought'' about that.
** Remember what Genie said in "The Return of Jafar". "You destroy Jafar's lamp, you destroy Jafar". Never saw the crossover (I personally ignore them due to bizarreness), but genies are not invulnerable in Aladdin continuity. They might not die of natural causes, but genies can be killed.
** As I recall the crossover, he wasn't "friendly enough with Hades" at all... he wound up in the Underworld after his lamp was destroyed, he and Hades actually didn't like each other ''at all'', but they agreed to work together to try and screw over their respective nemeses. After it didn't work Hades probably said "Screw this guy" and set Jafar to pushing a boulder made of fishhooks up a hill made of glass shards or something.
* If the people in Aladdin believe in Allah then why did Jafar go to the Greek Underworld when he died?
** This was answered in the episode itself by Jafar. "You see, there's been a grievous error."
** Just because they believe it doesn't make it true.
** Its a huge Main/ContinuitySnarl to facilitate the crossover. The Aladdin film establishes the time period as being medieval with the presence of Islam but the series backdates to the pre-roman period to be contemporary with Hercules. I can't remember if reference was made to religion in the Aladdin series, but either way the series characters are rendered non-Muslim.
*** In the song, "Prince Ali", Genie mentions 'galloping hordes', easily Huns, making it circa 300-400 AD, ripe time for Greek/Roman Mythology, pre-Islam, no ContinuitySnarl.
*** It could just as easily involve the Mongols, which would be after the foundation of Islam.
*** Or the "galloping hordes" could actually be the Christian Crusaders; but this would all be better on Wild Mass Guessing.
** It could be that in the underworld, time doesn't actually exist. Therefore, someone who dies years after Hercules' time would still be there to be glimpsed, like Jafar.
*** Several characters in the first Aladdin movie mention Allah.
*** Saying "Allah" doesn't make them Muslims. It's the Arabic word for God, and in fact is used by Arabic speakers of other religions, particularly Christianity and Judaism.
*** Not that big a deal. The real Arabian Nights similarly anachronistically puts the word "Allah" in the mouths of characters from ancient folktales that pre-date Islam, or stories from other countries that weren't Muslim. This is common practice for authentic written collections of folklore, just like the anachronistic use of Catholicism (and everything else) in the original King Arthur legends. The * original* original Aladdin was supposed to be a * Chinese* boy, meaning that the Arabian Nights' use of terms like "Allah" and "djinn" throughout is thoroughly out-of-place.
*** Not necessarily; there has long been a large Muslim population in China and the character ''does'' have an Arabic name. Also, some Muslims speculate that "Allah" is not really an Arabic word. They say instead that it is the special name by which God likes to be called and they claim it was used by all the prophets, from Adam to Muhammad.
*** And to make things more confusing, one of the Delhi Sultans, by the name of 'Alah ad-Din' actually financed his army and rise to the throne using the treasure he gained from a Deccani Sultan's underground treasure chamber, making this bit at least TruthInTelevision. He also married the Deccani Sultan's daughter, thus gaining Treasure and a Princess by journeying to the 'Cave of Wonders'
** As for the "real" universe of Disney's Aladdin, isn't it pretty clear by now that Agrabah takes place in a fantasy universe only thematically related to the real world and the real Islamic empire? All of this is to some degree moot -- the fact that the Genie has been trapped for "ten thousand years" at the beginning of the first movie and yet we get flashbacks to his earlier masters still existing in a recognizably "Arabian" civilization means this universe * can't* take place in historical time.
*** This Troper's knowledge of Islam and Greek religions is shaky at best, but he would put money on the idea that Jafar would not go to Heaven. Just for the sake of speculation, we might assume that Islam's Hell and Greek's Tartarus are, if not the same place, at least concurrent in some way. Thus, when Jafar gets what's coming to him, he could gain the attention of Hades, more easily than perhaps normally given Jafar's tendency to stand out in a crowd.
** It could just be like the WesternAnimation/SouthPark where it turns out, to many people of various faith's chagrin that "the correct religion was Mormonism". "It turns out the Greeks were right", perhaps?
** You guys, '''he was an evil sorcerer'''. This more than just disqualifies him as an observant Muslim -- occultists tend to develop their own weird theologies if they're religious at all. Even if everyone else in the movies is Muslim, it's possible that he ''did'' believe in the Greek underworld, or that he just got shunted into it due to the nature of his occult dealings.
** I happen to be a Muslim and nothing in Aladdin implied the characters were Muslim at all, it is much more likely it was of the theories above, they simply used the Arabic term for God.
** Who what now? When does Jafar go to the Greek underworld?
*** An episode of the Hercules animated series, "Hercules and the Arabian Night", has Jafar showing up in Hades. The two villains wind up teaming up in an attempt to defeat Hercules and Aladdin by getting them to fight each other.
** Maybe there are multiple underworlds and Jafar applied for a transfer.
*** Could be--the Norse pantheon was shown to exist in the Disney/{{Hercules}} animated series.
* If the Genie was freed in the first movie, why do some people in the series still act like he's a possession of Aladdin, or one of his powers? Mozenrath was jealous of Aladdin for getting magical power the easy way (by "having" a genie), for instance. And when Chaos created an evil copy of Aladdin, it came with an evil Genie, to which Chaos reacted with mild surprise, then realized was a logical consequence of copying Aladdin (whereas his pet monkey was apparently an independent enough entity to not be copied).
** Maybe that's not because he's a "genie" but because he's the designated goofy Main/{{Sidekick}}-slash-bodyguard of Main/TheHero. He's part of Main/TheHero's package.
*** Ewww.
*** "Is that a lamp in your pocket, or..." *gets coat*
** In the Aladdinverse, you normally have to pick out three carefully-worded wishes to get anything from a genie. Aladdin has a genie sidekick who does all sorts of fun things for him without being Bound By The Rules Of The Genie (tm).
** Considering how awed Genie was that Aladdin set him free, it's probably a rare (if not unique) thing in their world. Most people would therefore assume that ''any'' genie has a master. For that matter, given how powerful Genie is, believing that he's being controlled by a human is probably a comfort to many people: this particular specimen might be harmless goofball, but genies in folklore were ''dangerous'', and didn't have a can't-kill-anyone rule to keep their behavior in check.
** On Abu not being copied, I'm actually going to argue storyline here. I'm not sure which aired first, but the series did have a two-part episode that, among other things, gave Abu a backstory (as well as adding significantly to Aladdin's). Makes sense to me that that version of Aladdin would never have met Abu, or wouldn't have cared enough to initiate the events that led to Abu and Aladdin teaming up. Of course, this is Chaos we're talking about, so it may be pointless to try to apply logic to this...
** Well, if we're taking the evil Aladdin's previous actions into account, then there's a good chance his third wish was "I wish you were my slave." In that case, the evil Genie might be considered a piece of equipment. As for Mozenrath... He obviously just doesn't understand ThePowerOfFriendship.
*** Slight problem . . . would the Chaos version of Aladdin still be considered a diamond in the rough, the primary criterion for obtaining possession of the genie in the first place?
*** In his own twisted and evil universe he would've been the paragon of evilness just as the real Aladdin is a paragon of righteousness, so yes.
*** One of the big rules the Genie laid down in the beginning was you can't wish for infinite wishes.
*** Not quite true. In an episode of the TV series, the orphan girl master of Genie's girlfriend accidentally wishes she and her genie could "always be together". The genie is bound to serve and look after the girl until she dies.
*** Which was most likely done out of desire for a parental figure, and is less servitude than it is filling an emotional gap. It's also adorable.
*** Chaos copy could use different rules, as far as we know. Or, Evil Aladdin being a polar opposite, is smart and worded an iron-strength wish that translate as "Make every wish of mine true from now to eternity".
** On the show, most people assumed that all of Aladdin's non-human friends belonged to him; one non-villain even referred to Abu, Iago, and the Genie as Aladdin's "pets," which understandably pissed them off. Also, I to remember the episode where Chaos made an evil Aladdin, and guess how Aladdin stopped him? He used the copy's lamp, having guessed correctly that an evil Aladdin would've never freed his Genie. Ha! I is answers!
*** Indeed, the evil Aladdin never freed his genie, and never met Abu. Evil Aladdin probably just saved up his wishes, and used them sparingly.
** You don't need to use infinite wishes or anything like that to make a Genie stick around and help you. You just need one or two ''open ended'' wishes. Wish for something along the lines of, "Protect me from any unnatural death/future attack," and "Help me defeat my enemies, both present and future." Any spells the Genie slings from then on would simply be counted as part of those two wishes, and you hold the third in reserve so it doesn't close out the contract.
** The Genie is Aladdin's {{Familiar}}. He owes Aladdin his freedom, so it makes sense he'd magically bond himself to Al to look out for him in any way that he can while still being free of the lamp.
* Since when did Iago become a regular character in the series and had a HeelFaceTurn? I remember in the first movie [[spoiler: He was trapped in the lamp with Jafar.]] How did he become Aladdin's ally?
** Watch the second movie.
* In the TV show, Sadira switches places with Jasmine, and everyone except the animals is fooled. So... Why were animals immune? Why was Genie affected? This spell is powerful enough to fool a semi-powerful supernatural being, but for some reason animals are overlooked?
** It's explicitly stated in a later episode that although Sadira possesses a very potent kind of magic, she isn't at all good with it. In fact most of her villainy has to do with her being unable to control whatever she summons. It's not that strange that her reality-warping spell has a few bugs she couldn't iron out.
-->'''Sadira''': The ''animals''! The spell didn't work on the ''animals''! (''after she realizes the resident critters can see through the spell that switched her with Jasmine'')
*** The tone of her voice suggests she hadn't even ''thought'' about that.
