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** Some of the reasons many atheists dedicate so much time to discussing religion is that many of them grew up in religious settings and had to deal with criticisms when they decide to stop following them, don't want to be subjected to the same rules Christians follow (think someone who was never a Christian not being able to save sex before marriage before it was made illegal), had to deal with religious people weaponizing their faith for their hate (take the LGBTQA+ community as an example), or doesn't believe a loving God would allow their suffering (similar to Radisson). While there are atheists who genuinely hate religion and disses it as much as possible, they are a VocalMinority.

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** Some of the reasons many atheists dedicate so much time to discussing religion is that many of them grew up in religious settings and had to deal with criticisms when they decide to stop following them, don't want to be subjected to the same rules Christians follow (think someone who was never a Christian not being able to save sex before marriage before it was made illegal), illegal for religious reasons), had to deal with religious people weaponizing their faith for their hate (take the LGBTQA+ community as an example), or doesn't believe a loving God would allow their suffering (similar to Radisson). While there are atheists who genuinely hate religion and disses it as much as possible, they are a VocalMinority.
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** Some of the reasons many atheists dedicate so much time to discussing religion is that many of them grew up in religious settings and had to deal with criticisms when they decide to stop following them, don't want to be subjected to the same rules Christians follow (think someone who was never a Christian not being able to save sex before marriage before it was made illegal), had to deal with religious people weaponizing their faith for their hate (take the LGBTQA+ community as an example), or doesn't believe a loving God would allow their suffering (similar to Radisson). While there are atheists who genuinely hate religion and disses it as much as possible, they are a VocalMinority.
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** They didn’t do their research, if they did likely she’d likely wear conservative clothes to please her father while taking off her niqab at school because it wasn’t her thing emotionally, also Christian’s don’t usually wear them.

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** They didn’t do their research, if they did likely she’d likely wear conservative clothes to please her father while taking off her niqab at school because it wasn’t her thing emotionally, also Christian’s Christians don’t usually wear them.



* Going further on the Ayisha issue, she was listening to an audio-book of The Bible. A person can read, listen to, or watch something religious-themed without subscribing to said religion. Plus, while she might refuse to outright lie, there's the fact she's attending a college that is established to offer philosophy classes. It's possible it offers theological classes, too. So, a college student is listening to an audio-book of a religious text. Yes, she could be a Christian, or she could be doing an assignment for a class or just be a bookworm who has an interest in theology. Maybe she has a female Christian friend she gave a copy of the Quran to with the agreement she'd study the Bible if her friend would do likewise with the Quran. Until she actually says she's a Christian, for all her dad knows, she could doing a compare-and-contrast report about Islam vs. Christianity with a bias towards the former. Her dad is obviously not meant to be a rational character, but I've known some religiously conservative parents, and most of them, if they caught their kid consuming something they (the parents) disapproved of, they might be angry, but they'd also ask why the kid was doing it, and if the kid was savvy enough to say the right thing or the parents weren't completely abusive or a combination, the exchange wouldn't end in the kid being thrown out. Then again, I've also known conservatively religious parents who take the view, 'My kid has to find their own path in life, and even if I don't agree with it, I will still love them and focus on all the positive qualities they possess and try my best to support them.'

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* Going further on the Ayisha issue, she was listening to an audio-book of The the Bible. A person can read, listen to, or watch something religious-themed without subscribing to said religion. Plus, while she might refuse to outright lie, there's the fact she's attending a college that is established to offer philosophy classes. It's possible it offers theological classes, too. So, a college student is listening to an audio-book of a religious text. Yes, she could be a Christian, or she could be doing an assignment for a class or just be a bookworm who has an interest in theology. Maybe she has a female Christian friend she gave a copy of the Quran to with the agreement she'd study the Bible if her friend would do likewise with the Quran. Until she actually says she's a Christian, for all her dad knows, she could doing a compare-and-contrast report about Islam vs. Christianity with a bias towards the former. Her dad is obviously not meant to be a rational character, but I've known some religiously conservative parents, and most of them, if they caught their kid consuming something they (the parents) disapproved of, they might be angry, but they'd also ask why the kid was doing it, and if the kid was savvy enough to say the right thing or the parents weren't completely abusive or a combination, the exchange wouldn't end in the kid being thrown out. Then again, I've also known conservatively religious parents who take the view, 'My kid has to find their own path in life, and even if I don't agree with it, I will still love them and focus on all the positive qualities they possess and try my best to support them.'



** So, basically, we're NOT "suppose" to hate [[Franchise/StarWars Jar Jar Binks]] or [[Franchise/ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] just because '''''they''''' don't exist? Really, Josh?

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** So, basically, we're NOT "suppose" "supposed" to hate [[Franchise/StarWars Jar Jar Binks]] or [[Franchise/ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] just because '''''they''''' don't exist? Really, Josh?



* As cruel as Ayisha's fate was in the end, it's actually merciful compared to what most ex Muslims have to suffer. The punishment for apostating Islam is death, and this is still carried out in almost all Muslim countries.

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* As cruel as Ayisha's fate was in the end, it's actually merciful compared to what most ex Muslims ex-Muslims have to suffer. The punishment for apostating apostatizing from Islam is death, and this is still carried out in almost all Muslim countries.



* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view, to the point where any normal person would start to wonder [[VillainProtagonist if this is someone we should even be rooting for.]] He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. Overall, Josh demonstrates a disturbing level of narcissism and arrogance, willing to go to any lengths just to “win” the debate. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.

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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view, to the point where any normal person would start to wonder [[VillainProtagonist if this is someone we should even be rooting for.]] He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. Overall, Josh demonstrates a disturbing level of narcissism and arrogance, willing to go to any lengths just to “win” the debate. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, God, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.
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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view, to the point where any normal person would start to wonder [[VillainProtagonist if this is someone we should even be rooting for.]] He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.

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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view, to the point where any normal person would start to wonder [[VillainProtagonist if this is someone we should even be rooting for.]] He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. Overall, Josh demonstrates a disturbing level of narcissism and arrogance, willing to go to any lengths just to “win” the debate. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.
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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view. He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.

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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view. view, to the point where any normal person would start to wonder [[VillainProtagonist if this is someone we should even be rooting for.]] He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.
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* Josh as a person demonstrates a shocking lack of compassion and empathy for anyone who disagrees with his point of view. He breaks up with his girlfriend of six years (after she turned down offers at other colleges just to stay with him) just because she didn’t want him to debate the professor (which she was completely right about, the only thing the debates accomplished was wasting the other students’ time). Obviously whatever they had didn’t mean that much to him if one argument was enough for him to walk away. As for the professor, Josh openly insults him several times, all but telling him that he is not capable of being a good person without God. He then takes advantage of deeply personal information that the professor told him in private to land a cheap shot in their debate, not caring that it’s going to traumatize and publicly humiliate him. For someone who claims repeatedly that all morality and love come from god, Josh is a pretty awful ambassador of his faith.
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** From what I read about the third movie he’s decided to become a pastor… Wait that’s still horrifying.
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** They didn’t do their research, if they did likely she’d likely wear conservative clothes to please her father while taking off her niqab at school because it wasn’t her thing emotionally, also Christian’s don’t usually wear them.
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If indeed she is going to mourn Radisson's tragic death, what really matters is that now Radisson is happy in heaven.

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** If indeed she is going to mourn Radisson's tragic death, what really matters is that now Radisson is happy in heaven.
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** So, basically, we're NOT "suppose" to hate [[Franchise|StarWars Jar Jar Binks]] or [[Franchise|ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] just because '''''they''''' don't exist? Really, Josh?

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** So, basically, we're NOT "suppose" to hate [[Franchise|StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Jar Jar Binks]] or [[Franchise|ScoobyDoo [[Franchise/ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] just because '''''they''''' don't exist? Really, Josh?
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** So, basically, we're NOT "suppose" to hate [[Franchise|StarWars Jar Jar Binks]] or [[Franchise|ScoobyDoo Scrappy Doo]] just because '''''they''''' don't exist? Really, Josh?
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* Mina's all happy and jamming at the concert. She doesn't know she's going to be attending Radisson's funeral soon.
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* As cruel as Ayisha's fate was in the end, it's actually merciful compared to what most ex Muslims have to suffer. The punishment for apostating Islam is death, and this is still carried out in almost all Muslim countries.
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* For any viewer from a (real) religious minority in the U.S., remembering that a good portion of the Christians you interact with daily actually think you, your family, and other non-Christians are like the caricatures portrayed in this movie, in need of being "saved" by them.



* Not so much fridge, but when one remembers that most of the film's cast and crew ''actually believe'' its fundamentalist Christian message...
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* The thought of Josh himself wanting to become a lawyer is terrifying. Considering his attitudes and beliefs you know that he would be bias in court. Imagine what would happen if he was against a gay couple...

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* The thought of Josh himself wanting to become a lawyer is terrifying. Considering his attitudes and beliefs you know that he would be bias biased in court. Imagine what would happen if he was against a gay couple...

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