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... this may be the worst use of that much-abused trope I've ever seen. Anyway, obviously it's not so,me thing that came out of nowhere and doesn't make sense, *it's the basis of his entire argument about the nature of religious arguments.* Whether the argument is good or not doesn't matter, it's still *relevant* to the movie.
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--->'''Bill:''' Jonah living inside of the whale... and their answer, unfailingly, is: "The Bible doesn't say whale, it says big fish." Oh yeah, big fish... [[SarcasmMode now THAT makes sense]]! I'm sorry, I was obsessing on that was a whale! It's a big fish. Of course you can live for three days in a big fish. A tuna. A tuna. [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment They do it all the time in Japan.]] They have tuna spas. [[OverlyLongGag You go for three days, they pamper you, oils... you come out of that tuna, feeling... fantastic.]]
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--->'''Bill:''' Jonah living inside of the whale... and their answer, unfailingly, is: "The Bible doesn't say whale, it says big fish." Oh yeah, big fish... [[SarcasmMode now THAT makes sense]]! I'm sorry, I was obsessing on that was a whale! It's a big fish. Of course you can live for three days in a big fish. A tuna. A tuna. [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment They do it all the time in Japan.]] Japan. They have tuna spas. [[OverlyLongGag You go for three days, they pamper you, oils... you come out of that tuna, feeling... fantastic.]]
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Despite Bill’s claims that there is no evidence, outside of Literature/TheBible, for the existence of Jesus of Nazareth as a historical figure, his existence is supported by the works of Josephus of Alexandria, Tacitus, and Suetonius, Jewish and Roman writers who were not at all supportive of Christianity.
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** Despite Bill’s claims that there is no evidence, outside of Literature/TheBible, for the existence of Jesus of Nazareth as a historical figure, his existence is supported by the works of Josephus of Alexandria, Tacitus, and Suetonius, Jewish and Roman writers who were not at all supportive ofChristianity.Christianity.
** Bill suggests that Moses invented circumcision out of whole cloth. In fact, circumcision is attributed to Abraham; moreover, it was a prevalent custom in the Middle East during the Bronze Age, not limited to the Jews.
** Despite Bill’s claims that there is no evidence, outside of Literature/TheBible, for the existence of Jesus of Nazareth as a historical figure, his existence is supported by the works of Josephus of Alexandria, Tacitus, and Suetonius, Jewish and Roman writers who were not at all supportive of
** Bill suggests that Moses invented circumcision out of whole cloth. In fact, circumcision is attributed to Abraham; moreover, it was a prevalent custom in the Middle East during the Bronze Age, not limited to the Jews.
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: Mithras and [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Horus]]. To quote [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html this Cracked article]]:
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: Bill’s comparison of the Christian Gospels to the stories of Mithras and [[Myth/EgyptianMythology Horus]]. To quote [[http://www.cracked.com/article_20585_6-famous-documentaries-that-were-shockingly-full-crap.html this Cracked article]]:
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--> Let's start with the "virgin births" part: You've gotta make some pretty big logical jumps to claim that any of those earlier gods were born from virgins, having come from a mother seven times over (Krishna), some freaky necrophilia (Horus), and a fucking rock (Mithras).
-->Then there's the resurrection thing. Contrary to Maher's claims, Mithras was never resurrected, and the older versions of the guy's story don't have any of the Jesus similarities -- those came about in the first or second century A.D. (that is, after Jesus was born). Horus, like Mithras, was also never resurrected, didn't have 12 apostles, and didn't raise Asar from the dead (which doesn't translate to "Lazarus" even a little bit). There isn't even any record of a figure call Anup the Baptizer; the closest we come is Anubis, the god of embalming, which astute readers will note is a leeeeeetle different from baptism.
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* TheWarOnStraw: In his critique of Christianity, Bill takes aim at literal interpretations of the Bible, repeatedly alluding to the 6,000-year-old Earth and the talking snake. Fundamentalism, which calls for such a literal interpretation of Scripture, is actually a minority position within the whole of Christianity.
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A {{documentary}} film by Creator/BillMaher released in 2008.
In its premise, Bill goes through a journey across the U.S. and other parts of the world talking to people, while looking for the answer to this question: Why do people accept the fantastic stories and teachings that religions preach? As is evidenced by the title of the movie, though (a {{portmanteau}} of "religion" and "ridiculous"), Bill Maher already has some opinions on the matter that he'd like to pass on to the audience.
In its premise, Bill goes through a journey across the U.S. and other parts of the world talking to people, while looking for the answer to this question: Why do people accept the fantastic stories and teachings that religions preach? As is evidenced by the title of the movie, though (a {{portmanteau}} of "religion" and "ridiculous"), Bill Maher already has some opinions on the matter that he'd like to pass on to the audience.
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In its premise, Bill
The film centers on Bill, famously critical of all religions, as he goes through a journey across the U.S. and other parts of the world talking to
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** Also ex-gay Pastor Westcott, when Bill accidentally implied some HoYay between them, both of them almost couldn't stop laughing.
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** Also ex-gay Pastor Westcott, when Bill accidentally implied some HoYay sexual tension between them, both of them almost couldn't stop laughing.laughing.
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** Also ex-gay Pastor Westcott, when Bill accidentally implied some FoeYay between them, both of them almost couldn't stop laughing.
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** Also ex-gay Pastor Westcott, when Bill accidentally implied some FoeYay HoYay between them, both of them almost couldn't stop laughing.
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* BeliefMakesYouStupid: The basic thesis, hence the title. Although, Bill accepts the idea of people in desperate situations (such as prison) turning to God as being "the only thing that keeps them going."
** Another theme of the documentary is that regular people who practice aren't as much of a concern (and are often unwitting victims) as someone with power or prestige who use religion as their justification to siphon money from gullible people, persecute others, start wars, or [[ApocalypseHow potentially worse in the future.]] While Bill does pointedly address his concerns with said regular believers, he also is much gentler with them than the people that have power that he speaks to.
* BeliefMakesYouStupid: The basic thesis, hence the title. Although, Bill accepts the idea of people in desperate situations (such as prison) turning to God as being "the only thing that keeps them going."
** Another theme of the documentary is that regular people who practice aren't as much of a concern (and are often unwitting victims) as someone with power or prestige who use religion as their justification to siphon money from gullible people, persecute others, start wars, or [[ApocalypseHow potentially worse in the future.]] While Bill does pointedly address his concerns with said regular believers, he also is much gentler with them than the people that have power that he speaks to.
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** Another theme of the documentary is that regular people who practice aren't as much of a concern (and are often unwitting victims) as someone with power or prestige who
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** Bill Maher quotes UsefulNotes/JohnAdams as saying "This best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." In reality, Adams meant [[http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/10/the-case-against-religulous-ta.html the complete opposite]], as the context (from a letter to UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson back in 1817) shows.
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** Bill Maher quotes UsefulNotes/JohnAdams as saying "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." In reality, Adams meant [[http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/10/the-case-against-religulous-ta.html the complete opposite]], as the context (from a letter to UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson back in 1817) shows.
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** Another theme of the documentary is that regular people who practice aren't as much of a concern (and are often unwitting victims) as someone with power or prestige who use religion as their justification to siphon money from gullible people, persecute others, start wars, or [[ApocalypseHow potentially worse in the future.]] While Bill does pointedly address his concerns with said regular believers, he also is much gentler with them than the people that have power that he speaks to.
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->''"The only appropriate attitude for man to have about the big questions is not the arrogant certitude that is the hallmark of religion, but doubt. Doubt is humble, and that's what man needs to be, considering that human history is just a litany of getting shit dead wrong."''
-->-- '''Bill Maher'''
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