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** And while this ''technically'' should go below: [[spoiler: the Ike/Soren shippers aren't happy that a recruitable character in ''Awakening'' claims to be Ike's descendant. They don't know who Ike could have paired up with to start his lineage. They just want her dead.]]
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** And while this ''technically'' should go below: [[spoiler: the Ike/Soren shippers aren't happy that a recruitable character in ''Awakening'' claims to be Ike's descendant. They don't know who Ike could have paired up with to start his lineage. They lineage; they just want her dead.]]
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* ''Awakening'' marked the return of the Lover/Inheritance System from ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy]]'', popularizing it... and the cannons immediately started firing.
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** Sumia/Chrom is heavily criticised making fans to prefer Robin/Chrom, Olivia/Chrom Robin/Sumia, Gaius/Sumia, causing ship wars.
** Chrom himself occasionally comes under fire from fans of Sumia/Male Avatar.
** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar.
** Chrom himself occasionally comes under fire from fans of Sumia/Male Avatar.
** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar.
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** Sumia/Chrom is heavily criticised making criticized by fans to who prefer Robin/Chrom, Olivia/Chrom Olivia/Chrom, Robin/Sumia, Gaius/Sumia, causing ship wars.
**and Gaius/Sumia; Chrom himself occasionally comes under fire from fans of Sumia/Male Avatar.
** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar. The female Avatar versus male Avatar war has gotten particularly nasty with Intsys's recent trend of using m!Robin over f!Robin, with fans of m!Robin using this as ammunition to claim that m!Robin/Chrom is the OneTruePairing and fans of f!Robin decrying this as misogynistic pandering to male players.
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** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar. The female Avatar versus male Avatar war has gotten particularly nasty with Intsys's recent trend of using m!Robin over f!Robin, with fans of m!Robin using this as ammunition to claim that m!Robin/Chrom is the OneTruePairing and fans of f!Robin decrying this as misogynistic pandering to male players.
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.F ans also accuse Celica/Alm for being a boring, unrealistic romance.
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, depth beyond an obsession with Alm that borders on {{Yandere}}, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.F ans RelationshipSue. Fans also accuse Celica/Alm for of being a boring, unrealistic romance.
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* Similarly, Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
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* Similarly, Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica shippers retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
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* Gray and Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as the closest to official love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
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* Gray and Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as they're the closest to official love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that respectively—which means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatianaliterally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana
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* In a rather odd turn of events, fans of Edelgard and Female Byleth give the male version of Byleth a lot of flak just for existing and being an option for Edelgard to marry. Despite the fact that the only difference between the two Byleths is their gender and that both they and Edelgard are canonically bisexual, there is a lot of HetIsEw in effect and very strong biphobia from those who would rather have Edelgard and Female Byleth be lesbians. It's even to the point that some fans have insinuated that the only reason anyone would ship Edelgard with Male Byleth over the female counterpart is because they're straight men who want to get with Edelgard, even though the majority of Byleth/Edelgard fans and content go with Female Byleth and those who prefer her with Male Byleth are a small minority.
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* In a rather odd turn of events, fans of Edelgard and Female Byleth give the male version of Byleth a lot of flak just for existing and being an option for Edelgard to marry. Despite the fact that the only difference between the two Byleths is their gender and that both they and Edelgard are canonically bisexual, there is a lot of HetIsEw in effect and very strong biphobia from those who would rather have Edelgard and Female Byleth be lesbians. It's even to the point that some fans have insinuated that the only reason anyone would ship Edelgard with Male Byleth over the female counterpart is because they're straight men who want to get with Edelgard, even though the majority of Byleth/Edelgard fans and content go with Female Byleth and those who prefer her with Male Byleth are a small minority.minority.
* Shipping discourse is often a microcosm for the overall faction fighting among the Three Houses fanbase; any discussion of whether or not Claudeleth, Dimileth, or Edeleth is the best Byleth ship usually involves tearing down the other two options. Edelgard is usually dismissed as a manipulative liar who only loves Byleth as much as she can be considered useful to her cause (when she's not portrayed as an obsessive StalkerWithACrush); Dimitri is regarded as a violent abuser (even though he apologized for his vengeful behavior and worked to atone); and Claude is viewed as insensitive and selfish, with fans decrying his S-support for having him immediately run off after proposing (even though Byleth herself never objects, knowing this is part of Claude's dream, and they're reunited the quickest out of all of Claude's paired endings).
* Out of all the most popular ships in the fandom, Felix/Sylvain outstrips even the Byleth/Lord ships, and as such its shippers have frequent quarrels with rival shippers—particularly those of Felix/Annette, one of the most popular Felix ships.
* Shipping discourse is often a microcosm for the overall faction fighting among the Three Houses fanbase; any discussion of whether or not Claudeleth, Dimileth, or Edeleth is the best Byleth ship usually involves tearing down the other two options. Edelgard is usually dismissed as a manipulative liar who only loves Byleth as much as she can be considered useful to her cause (when she's not portrayed as an obsessive StalkerWithACrush); Dimitri is regarded as a violent abuser (even though he apologized for his vengeful behavior and worked to atone); and Claude is viewed as insensitive and selfish, with fans decrying his S-support for having him immediately run off after proposing (even though Byleth herself never objects, knowing this is part of Claude's dream, and they're reunited the quickest out of all of Claude's paired endings).
* Out of all the most popular ships in the fandom, Felix/Sylvain outstrips even the Byleth/Lord ships, and as such its shippers have frequent quarrels with rival shippers—particularly those of Felix/Annette, one of the most popular Felix ships.
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** Kent/Lyn shippers can be ''very'' protective of their pairing, hating Rath for being [[NotGoodWithPeople standoffish to Lyn despite caring about her]] and claiming Kent/Fiora's supports ruin the characters. Conversely, some Lyn/Tactician shippers loathe Kent.
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** Kent/Lyn shippers can be ''very'' protective of their pairing, hating Rath for being [[NotGoodWithPeople standoffish to Lyn despite caring about her]] her and claiming Kent/Fiora's supports ruin the characters. Conversely, some Lyn/Tactician shippers loathe Kent.
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* ''Awakening'' marked the return of the Lover/Inheritance System from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy]], popularizing it... and the cannons immediately started firing.
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* ''Awakening'' marked the return of the Lover/Inheritance System from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Genealogy]], ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy]]'', popularizing it... and the cannons immediately started firing.
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** At one point it was common for Erk/Nino shippers to bash Jaffar and the Jaffar/Nino pairing, complaining about the age difference and claiming the relationship was emotionally abusive while touting Erk/Nino as "much healthier" (ignoring the fact that Erk has his own issues).
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** At one point it was common for Erk/Nino shippers to bash Jaffar and the Jaffar/Nino pairing, complaining about the age difference "age difference"[[note]]in actuality, Jaffar is only about three years older than Nino[[/note]] and claiming the relationship was emotionally abusive while touting Erk/Nino as "much healthier" (ignoring the fact that Erk has his own issues).
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Ship Wars is great part of the culture of the fandom. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Ship Wars is great part of the culture of the fandom. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, {{Permadeath}}, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
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* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]]]
!!Examples of DieForOurShip in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses Three Houses]]'':
* In a rather odd turn of events, fans of Edelgard and Female Byleth give the male version of Byleth a lot of flak just for existing and being an option for Edelgard to marry. Despite the fact that the only difference between the two Byleths is their gender and that both they and Edelgard are canonically bisexual, there is a lot of HetIsEw in effect and very strong biphobia from those who would rather have Edelgard and Female Byleth be lesbians. It's even to the point that some fans have insinuated that the only reason anyone would ship Edelgard with Male Byleth over the female counterpart is because they're straight men who want to get with Edelgard, even though the majority of Byleth/Edelgard fans and content go with Female Byleth and those who prefer her with Male Byleth are a small minority.
!!Examples of DieForOurShip in ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses Three Houses]]'':
* In a rather odd turn of events, fans of Edelgard and Female Byleth give the male version of Byleth a lot of flak just for existing and being an option for Edelgard to marry. Despite the fact that the only difference between the two Byleths is their gender and that both they and Edelgard are canonically bisexual, there is a lot of HetIsEw in effect and very strong biphobia from those who would rather have Edelgard and Female Byleth be lesbians. It's even to the point that some fans have insinuated that the only reason anyone would ship Edelgard with Male Byleth over the female counterpart is because they're straight men who want to get with Edelgard, even though the majority of Byleth/Edelgard fans and content go with Female Byleth and those who prefer her with Male Byleth are a small minority.
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Ship was is great part of the culture of the fandom. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Ship was Wars is great part of the culture of the fandom. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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''Franchise/FireEmblem'' as a whole has this in spades. Ship was is great part of the culture of the fandom. Thanks to [[ThePowerOfFriendship the Support system]], which gives characters both nifty CharacterDevelopment and stat bonuses, ''Fire Emblem'' tends to be a breeding ground for ShipToShipCombat with the unique difference that {{shipping}} in ''Fire Emblem'' -- and thus arguments thereof -- is often concerned with gameplay viability as much as it is with the romantic dynamic between the characters. It also doesn't help that the series sports FinalDeath, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential meaning you're free in most cases to]] ''[[UriahGambit actually]]'' [[UriahGambit kill someone off]] [[MurderTheHypotenuse if they're in the way of your preferred pairing]].
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* Some fans who don’t like the canon Marth/Caeda ship bash Caeda. This even included fans who want to ship Marth in [[{{Crackship}} Super Smash Bros pairings]]. Oddly enough, Catria/Marth shippers don't seem to have a problem with Caeda, simply opting to pair her with [[BodyguardCrush Ogma]] instead.
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* Some fans who don’t like the canon Marth/Caeda ship pairing bash Caeda. This even included fans who want to ship Marth in [[{{Crackship}} Super Smash Bros pairings]]. Oddly enough, Catria/Marth shippers don't seem to have a problem with Caeda, simply opting to pair her with [[BodyguardCrush Ogma]] instead.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Saleh/Eirka vs Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Saleh/Eirka Saleh/Eirika vs Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.F ans also accuse Celica/Alm for being a boring, unrealistic romance.
* Fans of Alm/Clair also eventually fight over their ship with the fans of the canon outcome Alm/Celica and Clair/Gray. They claim that Alm/Clair would be the most realistic and healthier option for all involved, accusing Alm/Celica and Clair/Gray of being of being StrangledByTheRedString .
* Similarly, Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
* Fans of Alm/Clair also eventually fight over their ship with the fans of the canon outcome Alm/Celica and Clair/Gray. They claim that Alm/Clair would be the most realistic and healthier option for all involved, accusing Alm/Celica and Clair/Gray of being of being StrangledByTheRedString .
* Similarly, Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
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** Gray and Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as the closest to official love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
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** Gray and Boey sometimes get Mathilda gets criticism for turning a similar treatment from housewife after she married Clive, despite being a better knight. This causes people to kill Clive in game, so she gets an ending in which she turns the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as lead of the closest to official love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.knights.
*Fans of Celica Gray and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the best LoveInterest HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as the closest to official love interests for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue.
Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.]]
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* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString.
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*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
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*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option among the three, that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
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*** Some of Lilina shippers try to say that she is the canon wife to start ship wars, and bash anyone who prefer Roy with either Cecilia, Sue, Shanna, Sophia, or Larum.
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** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian. They harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid and official options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
** In a simlar fashion, Ninian was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
** Similarly, [[{{Ojou}} Priscilla]] is bashed because all her Supports are boys who happen to be part of the fandom's most popular slash pairings (and in some cases, one reasonably popular het pairing).
** In a simlar fashion, Ninian was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
** Similarly, [[{{Ojou}} Priscilla]] is bashed because all her Supports are boys who happen to be part of the fandom's most popular slash pairings (and in some cases, one reasonably popular het pairing).
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** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood Ninian]]/Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian.their OTP. They harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid and official options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
**In a simlar fashion, Similarly, Ninian was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora Eliwood/[[PrivateMilitaryContractors Fiora]] fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
**Similarly, Hector/Lyn, Eliwood/Lyn and Rath/Lyn shippers claim that their respective ship are the canon romance for Lyn, often causing nasty fighs with each ther.
** Hector/Lyn or Eliwood/Lyn is bashed by those who prefer all the involved with other characters, claiming that Lyn would never be happy living in a palace, ignoring that it's a Lyn option to marry them and that she has a happy life regardless of who she marries.
** [[{{Ojou}} Priscilla]] is bashed because all her Supports are boys who happen to be part of the fandom's most popular slash pairings (and in some cases, one reasonably popular het pairing).
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** Hector/Lyn or Eliwood/Lyn is bashed by those who prefer all the involved with other characters, claiming that Lyn would never be happy living in a palace, ignoring that it's a Lyn option to marry them and that she has a happy life regardless of who she marries.
** [[{{Ojou}} Priscilla]] is bashed because all her Supports are boys who happen to be part of the fandom's most popular slash pairings (and in some cases, one reasonably popular het pairing).
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** Despite Leif and Nanna being the only option to each other in Thracia, some people find it boring and prefer to marry them to other characters in the love System of Genealogy og Holy Way, with the justification that they broke up.
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** Despite Leif and Nanna being the only option to each other in Thracia, some people find it boring and prefer to marry them to other characters in the love System of Genealogy og of Holy Way, with the justification that they broke up.
*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
*** The fact that Nanna and Leif follow the overdone [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend]] trope, and were raised as siblings make some people to frown upon the ship.
*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
*** The fact that Nanna and Leif follow the overdone [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend]] trope, and were raised as siblings make some people to frown upon the ship.
*** Roy/Lilina is also criticised for being another boring [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend romance]], and Lilina getting more attention than the other girls.
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* Sain could get this in a weird roundabout way: Fans treated him like a lech who should never be with any woman "because all the girls hate him", then turn around and pair him with Kent while demonizing any of their prospect wives.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Saleh/Eirka vs Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
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** Despite Leif and Nanna being the only option to each other in Thracia, some people find it boring and prefer to marry them to other characters in the love System of Genealogy og Holy Way, with the justification that they broke up.
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** Despite Leif and Nanna being the only option to each other in Thracia, some people find it boring and prefer to marry them to other characters in the love System of Genealogy og of Holy Way, with the justification that they broke up.
*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
*** The fact that Nanna and Leif follow the overdone [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend]] trope, and were raised as siblings make some people to frown upon the ship.
*** Nanna also gets criticism from those who prefer Leif with other girls, specially Miranda, Sara or Jeanne, despite Jeanne being the only possible option that can marry Leif, in Genealogy of Holy War.
*** The fact that Nanna and Leif follow the overdone [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend]] trope, and were raised as siblings make some people to frown upon the ship.
*** Roy/Lilina is also criticised for being another boring [[ChildhoodFriendRomance childhood friend romance]], and Lilina getting more attention than the other girls.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
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* The Seth/Eirika vs. Innes/Eirika vs. Saleh/Eirka vs Eirika/Lyon shipping wars can get quite heated, with people on all sides bashing the suitor they do not favor.
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** Chrom himself occasionally comes under fire from fans of Sumia/Male Avatar.
** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar.
** The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar.
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* The female Avatar and Sumia sometimes come under fire from fans of Chrom/Male Avatar. Chrom himself occasionally comes under fire from fans of Sumia/Male Avatar.
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* Corrin gets guff from being heavily shipped with Xander, Camilla, Leo and Elise, that are their adopted siblings.
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** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian. They bash the other love interests of Eliwood, and harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
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** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian. They bash the other love interests of Eliwood, and They harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid and official options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
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* Out of Chrom's potential wives, Sumia gets a lot of hate from the fandom, especially fans of any other Chrom ship. Part of it comes from the way the game pushes her as Chrom’s default love interest (restriction of her selection of other suitors, cutscenes featuring the two, including one titled “Lovebirds” in the North American edition) that can make some players feel it is being forced on them. Others see UnfortunateImplications in the emphasis on her clumsiness and poor self-image and in how much of their support chain revolves around Sumia cooking for Chrom and doing his laundry[[note]]in the Japanese version it's made clear that she's collecting ''everyone's'' laundry, but this is not indicated in the English translation[[/note]].
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* Out of Chrom's potential wives, Sumia gets a lot of hate from the fandom, especially fans of any other Chrom ship. Part of it comes from the way the game pushes gives focus to her as Chrom’s default love interest (restriction interest, due to restriction of her selection of other suitors, cutscenes featuring the two, including one titled “Lovebirds” in the North American edition) that edition. That can make some players feel it is being forced on them. Others see UnfortunateImplications in the emphasis on her clumsiness and poor self-image and in how much of their support chain revolves around Sumia cooking for Chrom and doing his laundry[[note]]in the Japanese version it's made clear that she's collecting ''everyone's'' laundry, but this is not indicated in the English translation[[/note]].
** Sumia/Chrom is heavily criticised making fans to prefer Robin/Chrom, Olivia/Chrom Robin/Sumia, Gaius/Sumia, causing ship wars.
* Olivia/Chrom shippers interpret the couple as the canon option, since it's Chrom's fastest support, saying that Olivia is his true wife, often pissing people that prefer Chrom with Robin, Sully, Sumia or Maribelle.
** Sumia/Chrom is heavily criticised making fans to prefer Robin/Chrom, Olivia/Chrom Robin/Sumia, Gaius/Sumia, causing ship wars.
* Olivia/Chrom shippers interpret the couple as the canon option, since it's Chrom's fastest support, saying that Olivia is his true wife, often pissing people that prefer Chrom with Robin, Sully, Sumia or Maribelle.
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** There are six different endings involving marriage for Roy; shippers tend to have a lot of hate for Roy's teacher Cecilia.
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
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** There are six different endings involving marriage for Roy; Roy;
*** Some shippers tend to have a lot of hate for Roy's teacherCecilia.
Cecilia because of the age difference, trying to make false narratives of grooming and abuse.
*** Some of Lilina shippers try to say that she is the canon wife to start ship wars, and bash anyone who prefer Roy with either Cecilia, Sue, Shanna, Sophia, or Larum.
* In''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'',
** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian. They bash the other love interests of Eliwood, and harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
** In a simlar fashion, Ninian was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
*** Some shippers tend to have a lot of hate for Roy's teacher
*** Some of Lilina shippers try to say that she is the canon wife to start ship wars, and bash anyone who prefer Roy with either Cecilia, Sue, Shanna, Sophia, or Larum.
* In
** Shippers of [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] with Eliwood tend to bash Lyn and Fiora for standing in between Eliwood/Ninian. They bash the other love interests of Eliwood, and harass fans that like Eliwood with either of those girls, trying to push Fiora or Lyn with Eliwood as less canon and lying that Ninian is the only correct option, often starting false argumentations to prove the canonicity of their otp above other equally valid options. This often has a the contrary effect, making the fans of Eliwood/Fiora or Eliwood/Lyn more denfensive.
** In a simlar fashion, Ninian was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
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** Beowolf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Lachesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowolf fans scorn the Finn/Lachesis pairing and Raquesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Dew]] and Naoise exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Lachesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
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** Beowolf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Lachesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowolf fans scorn the Finn/Lachesis pairing and Raquesis Lachesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Dew]] and Naoise exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Lachesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
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* Soleil gets this a lot due to her constant skirt-chasing and lack of boundaries, with her detractors ''glad'' she's not the female GayOption because she "needs to be kept away from all women". It's especially prominent with Ophelia, though, as she comes on way too strong and makes Ophelia nervous in 2/3 of their support chain. The fact that both girls admit they made a mess of things (Soleil by being pushy and Ophelia by running away because Soleil didn't meet her high expectations as a partner) and patch it up in the A support isn't enough for the detractors, and some of the shippers can get defensive as a result. Those who are on the fence regarding [[InternetBackdraft the controversy behind her sexuality]] tends to cite this scene and her overall aggressiveness as the reason to dislike her.
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* Soleil gets this a lot due to her constant skirt-chasing and lack of boundaries, with her detractors ''glad'' she's not the female GayOption because she "needs to be kept away from all women". It's especially prominent with Ophelia, though, as she comes on way too strong and makes Ophelia nervous in 2/3 of their support chain. The fact that both girls admit they made a mess of things (Soleil by being pushy and Ophelia by running away because Soleil didn't meet her high expectations as a partner) and patch it up in the A support isn't enough for the detractors, and some of the shippers can get defensive as a result. Those who are on the fence regarding [[InternetBackdraft the controversy behind her sexuality]] sexuality tends to cite this scene and her overall aggressiveness as the reason to dislike her.
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** Beowolf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Lachesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowolf fans scorn the Finn/Raquesis pairing and Raquesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Dew]] and Naoise exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Lachesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
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** Beowolf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Lachesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowolf fans scorn the Finn/Raquesis Finn/Lachesis pairing and Raquesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Dew]] and Naoise exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Lachesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', Natasha gets bashed by some Joshua/Artur, Joshua/Marisa and Seth/Eirika fans. She's even accused of being a ''GoldDigger'' just because Seth and Joshua happen to be rather affluent even though that never comes up in their supports.
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', Natasha gets bashed by some Joshua/Artur, Joshua/Marisa and Seth/Eirika fans. She's even accused of being a ''GoldDigger'' GoldDigger just because Seth and Joshua happen to be rather affluent even though that never comes up in their supports.
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* Oboro may be in danger of this from Leo/Takumi shippers due to her strong canon crush on him.
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* Soleil gets this a ''lot'' due to her constant skirt-chasing and lack of boundaries, with her detractors ''glad'' she's not the female GayOption because she "needs to be kept away from all women". It's especially prominent with Ophelia, though, as she comes on way too strong and makes Ophelia nervous in 2/3 of their support chain. The fact that both girls admit they made a mess of things (Soleil by being pushy and Ophelia by running away because Soleil didn't meet her high expectations as a partner) and patch it up in the A support isn't enough for the detractors, and some of the shippers can get defensive as a result. Those who are on the fence regarding [[InternetBackdraft the controversy behind her sexuality]] tends to cite this scene and her overall aggressiveness as the reason to dislike her.
* Ryoma/Oboro is proof that even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight rare pairs]] can fall under this. A few of its shippers deride Takumi or the Oboro/Takumi pairing, painting Oboro's feelings for Takumi as "just a silly crush" that she should get over so she can enjoy Ryoma, who is So Much Better for her. The majority of fic about this pairing paints Takumi as dense at best or callous at worst when it comes to Oboro's feelings, and overall the shippers give off an air of insecurity and feeling threatened by Oboro's feelings for Takumi despite ''canon itself'' not treating them as an obstacle for her to get over; they can be requited if the player chooses, but only one of her other romantic support sets mentions her crush (and it makes sense that ''Hinata'' would say something, the two being as close as they are).
* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimes get so insecure about their ship that they bash the various girls that both of them can marry instead. Camilla seems to be the biggest target.
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for supposedly being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
* Ryoma/Oboro is proof that even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight rare pairs]] can fall under this. A few of its shippers deride Takumi or the Oboro/Takumi pairing, painting Oboro's feelings for Takumi as "just a silly crush" that she should get over so she can enjoy Ryoma, who is So Much Better for her. The majority of fic about this pairing paints Takumi as dense at best or callous at worst when it comes to Oboro's feelings, and overall the shippers give off an air of insecurity and feeling threatened by Oboro's feelings for Takumi despite ''canon itself'' not treating them as an obstacle for her to get over; they can be requited if the player chooses, but only one of her other romantic support sets mentions her crush (and it makes sense that ''Hinata'' would say something, the two being as close as they are).
* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimes get so insecure about their ship that they bash the various girls that both of them can marry instead. Camilla seems to be the biggest target.
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for supposedly being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
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* Soleil gets this a ''lot'' lot due to her constant skirt-chasing and lack of boundaries, with her detractors ''glad'' she's not the female GayOption because she "needs to be kept away from all women". It's especially prominent with Ophelia, though, as she comes on way too strong and makes Ophelia nervous in 2/3 of their support chain. The fact that both girls admit they made a mess of things (Soleil by being pushy and Ophelia by running away because Soleil didn't meet her high expectations as a partner) and patch it up in the A support isn't enough for the detractors, and some of the shippers can get defensive as a result. Those who are on the fence regarding [[InternetBackdraft the controversy behind her sexuality]] tends to cite this scene and her overall aggressiveness as the reason to dislike her.
* Ryoma/Oboro is proof that even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight rare pairs]] can fall under this. A few of its shippers deride Takumi or the Oboro/Takumi pairing, painting Oboro's feelings for Takumi as "just a silly crush" that she should get over so she can enjoy Ryoma, who is So Much Better for her. The majority of fic about this pairing paints Takumi as dense at best or callous at worst when it comes to Oboro's feelings, and overall the shippers give off an air of insecurity and feeling threatened by Oboro's feelings for Takumi despite''canon itself'' canon itself not treating them as an obstacle for her to get over; they can be requited if the player chooses, but only one of her other romantic support sets mentions her crush (and it makes sense that ''Hinata'' Hinata would say something, the two being as close as they are).
* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimesget so insecure about their ship that they bash the various girls that both of them can marry instead. Camilla seems to be the biggest target.
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's[[GayOption Bi Option]] GayOption instead of Niles bash the later for supposedly being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" GayOption" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
* Ryoma/Oboro is proof that even [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight rare pairs]] can fall under this. A few of its shippers deride Takumi or the Oboro/Takumi pairing, painting Oboro's feelings for Takumi as "just a silly crush" that she should get over so she can enjoy Ryoma, who is So Much Better for her. The majority of fic about this pairing paints Takumi as dense at best or callous at worst when it comes to Oboro's feelings, and overall the shippers give off an air of insecurity and feeling threatened by Oboro's feelings for Takumi despite
* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimes
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's
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* In both games, Clive and Mathilda are an OfficialCouple as long as both of them live (If not, either Clive dies young while fighting pirates, or Mathilda replaces him as commander but never marries). After the second came out, some parts of the fandom (namely, the HetIsEw part of Website/{{Tumblr}}) have started to bash or ignore Clive to favor pairing up Mathilda with other women.
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* In both games, Clive and Mathilda are an OfficialCouple as long as both of them live (If not, either Clive dies young while fighting pirates, or Mathilda replaces him as commander but never marries). After the second latter game came out, some parts of the fandom (namely, the HetIsEw part of Website/{{Tumblr}}) have started to bash or ignore Clive to favor pairing up Mathilda with other women.
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke ''still'' didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke ''still'' didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
RelationshipSue.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke''still'' still didn't return to Nyna, just vanishing forever this time (probably right after saving her from Gharnef and Medeus).]]
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have''not'' not taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; creepy because of the age difference between the two characters; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].StrangledByTheRedString.
* Tatiana isn't exactly well-liked by [[spoiler:Camus/Nyna]] shippers. While the original merely heavily implied Ezekiel/Zeke chose her over [[spoiler: Princess Nyna]], it still left it somewhat ambiguous. The remake outright confirms he marries her, and if Tatiana literally dies in-game, the game just states that [[spoiler:Zeke
* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have
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* [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Colm]] is bashed as well by people who dislike his treatment of [[FragileFlower Neimi]] and prefer to pair her up with someone else. While he ''can'' be a bit harsh towards her, that doesn't excuse the way his worst haters exaggerate his jackassery to outright DomesticAbuse extremes.
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* [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Colm]] is bashed as well by people who dislike his treatment of [[FragileFlower [[ProneToTears Neimi]] and prefer to pair her up with someone else. While he ''can'' be a bit harsh towards her, that doesn't excuse the way his worst haters exaggerate his jackassery to outright DomesticAbuse extremes.
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedString. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Quit a lot of fighting goes on over which pairings create the children of certain characters in ''Fuuin no Tsurugi'' aka ''Fire Emblem 6''.
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* Quit a lot of fighting goes on over which pairings create the children of certain characters in ''Fuuin no Tsurugi'' aka ''Fire Emblem 6''.''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade''.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 7'', [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 7'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', [[MysteriousWaif Ninian the Dancer]] was at one time the biggest victim of this from [[ActionGirl Lyn]]/[[TheHero Eliwood]], Eliwood/[[GeniusBruiser Hector]], and Eliwood/Fiora fans who bash her for standing in between their pairing of choice. This has calmed down a bit in recent years, but when it does happen it can be pretty nasty.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 8'', Natasha gets bashed by some Joshua/Artur, Joshua/Marisa and Seth/Eirika fans. She's even accused of being a ''GoldDigger'' just because Seth and Joshua happen to be rather affluent even though that never comes up in their supports.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 8'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', Natasha gets bashed by some Joshua/Artur, Joshua/Marisa and Seth/Eirika fans. She's even accused of being a ''GoldDigger'' just because Seth and Joshua happen to be rather affluent even though that never comes up in their supports.
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* ''Fire Emblem 9'' had Ike/Soren shippers who bash Elincia. It's mostly stopped now that the sequel [[spoiler:implies that she ends up with Geoffrey.]] Unfortunately, it's turned the tables to Ike/Elincia fans bashing Geoffrey and the Ike/Soren pairing.
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* ''Fire Emblem 9'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemPathOfRadiance'' had Ike/Soren shippers who bash Elincia. It's mostly stopped now that the sequel [[spoiler:implies that she ends up with Geoffrey.]] Unfortunately, it's turned the tables to Ike/Elincia fans bashing Geoffrey and the Ike/Soren pairing.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 10'', [[MyCountryRightOrWrong main character Micaiah]] occasionally gets bashed for her romance with [[BodyguardCrush Sothe]] and standing in the way of HoYay.
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* In ''Fire Emblem 10'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'', [[MyCountryRightOrWrong main character Micaiah]] occasionally gets bashed for her romance with [[BodyguardCrush Sothe]] and standing in the way of HoYay.
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* ''Fire Emblem 4'' suffers from a bit of this as well. As PermaDeath and RelationshipValues are both important parts of the game, the player can literally invoke DieForOurShip:
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* ''Fire Emblem 4'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'' suffers from a bit of this as well. As PermaDeath and RelationshipValues are both important parts of the game, the player can literally invoke DieForOurShip:
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia the Archanea games]]:
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral the Jugdral games]]:
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe the Elibe games]]:
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius the Tellius games]]:
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden'' and its remake ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEchoesShadowsOfValentia'':
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!!Examples of DieForOurShip in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden'' and its remake ''VideoGame/FireEmblemEchoesShadowsOfValentia'':
''Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'':
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** Beowulf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Raquesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowulf fans scorn the Finn/Raquesis pairing and Raquesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Deu]] and Noish exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Raquesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
** Lewyn/Ferry fans turn up their noses at Sylvia. Lewyn/Sylvia fans turn up their noses at Ferry. Lewyn/Tailto fans turn up their noses at both. Sylvia gets the most hate from shippers of either, though.
** Mitsuki Oosawa's manga portrays Eldigan's canon wife Grahnye (here named Iria) negatively and ships [[BrotherSisterIncest Eldigan/Raquesis]] instead. Mitsuki also excluded Holyn and Beowulf from the manga in favor of pairing Ayra up with Lex and Raquesis up with Finn.
** Lewyn/Ferry fans turn up their noses at Sylvia. Lewyn/Sylvia fans turn up their noses at Ferry. Lewyn/Tailto fans turn up their noses at both. Sylvia gets the most hate from shippers of either, though.
** Mitsuki Oosawa's manga portrays Eldigan's canon wife Grahnye (here named Iria) negatively and ships [[BrotherSisterIncest Eldigan/Raquesis]] instead. Mitsuki also excluded Holyn and Beowulf from the manga in favor of pairing Ayra up with Lex and Raquesis up with Finn.
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** Beowulf Beowolf [[TheScrappy suffers a lot of hate in the fandom as it is]], but Finn/Raquesis Finn/Lachesis gives the haters even more fuel for their fire. In turn, Beowulf Beowolf fans scorn the Finn/Raquesis pairing and Raquesis herself. Meanwhile, they forget her other prospect "canon" husbands [[TheTrickster Deu]] Dew]] and Noish Naoise exist. [[spoiler: Hilariously, ''Thracia 776'' '''very strongly''' implies that Raquesis Lachesis first was with Beowulf and then with Finn: Diarmuid is all but stated to be Beo's son ([[HeroicBastard same to Fergus]]) while Nanna is for all effects Finn's daughter.]]
**Lewyn/Ferry Lewyn/Erinys fans turn up their noses at Sylvia. Lewyn/Sylvia fans turn up their noses at Ferry. Lewyn/Tailto Erinys. Lewyn/Tailtiu fans turn up their noses at both. Sylvia gets the most hate from shippers of either, though.
** Mitsuki Oosawa's manga portrays Eldigan's canon wife Grahnye (here named Iria) negatively and ships [[BrotherSisterIncestEldigan/Raquesis]] Eldigan/Lachesis]] instead. Mitsuki also excluded Holyn Chulainn and Beowulf from the manga in favor of pairing Ayra up with Lex and Raquesis Lachesis up with Finn.
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** Mitsuki Oosawa's manga portrays Eldigan's canon wife Grahnye (here named Iria) negatively and ships [[BrotherSisterIncest
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* Oboro may be in danger of this from Leo/Takumi (and Female Avatar/Takumi) shippers due to her strong canon crush on him. So far in the former case it's mostly PlayedForLaughs with jokes about her sulking or fighting with Leo, and she's usually fobbed off onto Niles (one of her two Nohrian marriage options in the ''Revelation'' Path). But in the latter case, fans of the ship have said they would fight Oboro for Takumi.
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* Oboro may be in danger of this from Leo/Takumi (and Female Avatar/Takumi) shippers due to her strong canon crush on him. So far in the former case it's mostly PlayedForLaughs with jokes about her sulking or fighting with Leo, and she's usually fobbed off onto Niles (one of her two Nohrian marriage options in the ''Revelation'' Path). But in the latter case, fans of the ship have said they would fight Oboro for Takumi.
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** Gray and Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as the closest to love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
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** Gray and Boey sometimes get a similar treatment from the HetIsEw fans, since canon places them as the closest to official love interests for Clair and Mae respectively and that means they can't easily be shipped with other girls either.
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedStrong. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StrangledByTheRedStrong.StrangledByTheRedString. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StranbledByTheRedStrong. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StranbledByTheRedStrong.StrangledByTheRedStrong. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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** Many Palla/Abel shippers bash Est, Palla's little sister and Abel's canon wife. According to them, Palla "deserved" Abel more even though she never came forward with her feelings and [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy stepped aside for the sake of her sister's happiness]].
** Marth's older sister Elice gets bashed by Merric/Linde fans, since she is Merric's [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Victorious Childhood Friend]]. People have claimed the relationship is "gross" due to Elice bringing up how she remembered him as a sick little boy (it was meant to be a HeIsAllGrownUp moment).
** It's said that many Japanese fans favor Catria as a better girlfriend for Marth than Caeda and go batshit at the mere sight of the second. Outside of Japan there is less outcry since Catria's crush on Marth is a minor facet of her character and is restricted to Japan-only games.
** Marth's older sister Elice gets bashed by Merric/Linde fans, since she is Merric's [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Victorious Childhood Friend]]. People have claimed the relationship is "gross" due to Elice bringing up how she remembered him as a sick little boy (it was meant to be a HeIsAllGrownUp moment).
** It's said that many Japanese fans favor Catria as a better girlfriend for Marth than Caeda and go batshit at the mere sight of the second. Outside of Japan there is less outcry since Catria's crush on Marth is a minor facet of her character and is restricted to Japan-only games.
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* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimes bash the various girls that both of them can marry instead. Camilla seems to be the biggest target.
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
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* Fans of Niles/Male Avatar sometimes get so insecure about their ship that they bash the various girls that both of them can marry instead. Camilla seems to be the biggest target.
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for supposedly being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
* Some yaoi fans that wish Silas was the Male Avatar's [[GayOption Bi Option]] instead of Niles bash the later for supposedly being a [[DepravedBisexual kinky sadist]] and keep spreading the ultimately {{jossed}} "Silas was supposed to be the original [[GayOption Bi Option]]" rumor. This goes both ways as some Niles/Male Avatar fans bash Silas for being "[[UndyingLoyalty too loyal]] [[NiceGuysFinishLast and boring]]" compared with [[StepfordSnarker Ni]][[HiddenDepths les]].
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Fans of Celica and Faye have been spotted fighting it out both regarding their characters ''and'' whether one or another girl is the best LoveInterest for Alm.Alm: Celica fans accuse Faye of being a no-life FlatCharacter without any depths, whereas Faye fans call Celica a RelationshipSue. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment And it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
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* Saber/Celica is a somewhat common pairing especially among fans who are newer to the franchise. Alm/Celica fans have ''not'' taken kindly to that.that, calling Saber/Celica fans creepy; the Saber/Celica retaliate by accusing the Alm/Celica ship of being StranbledByTheRedStrong. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, it's best to leave it at that]].
