History DethroningMoment / Persona

* Connor2107: After the first trip to Shujinku, Joker, Morgana and Ryuji encounter a predatory gay couple with an interest in Ryuji. Joker and Morgana then out of nowhere ditch Ryuji leaving him to his fate. That's right, they abandon one of their supposed best friends to sexual predators. [[SarcasmMode Our heroes, ladies and gentlemen]]!

The following moments in the ''Persona'' series will make you wonder if the folks at Creator/{{Atlus}} were under the influence of their Shadows when they implemented these.

* Tropers/{{Grotadmorv}}: Before the Hawaii trip, the group takes a photo. Futaba, who isn't there, makes a comment about it. She reveals that she had put spyware on Joker's phone to allow her to see through his camera. This is incredibly creepy and a massive invasion of privacy, and yet everyone laughs it off as a joke. If someone did that to ''me'' without telling me, I'd be pretty mad. I get that Futaba is a member of the group and probably wouldn't do anything bad, and it comes up later during [[spoiler:the aftermath of Sae's palace]], but the ParanoiaFuel of knowing one of your teammates is watching you at ''all times'' doesn't help.

** Grotadmorv: There's an early Yukari moment that ruined her character for me. If you talk to her in the dorm, she complains about bullying problems at the school, and how mean a person would have to be to do it. However, before and after this, Yukari still insults Junpei relentlessly. It makes her come off as a {{hypocrite}}, and isn't addressed further.

* Grotadmorv: Before the Hawaii trip, the group takes a photo. Futaba, who isn't there, makes a comment about it. She reveals that she had put spyware on Joker's phone to allow her to see through his camera. This is incredibly creepy and a massive invasion of privacy, and yet everyone laughs it off as a joke. If someone did that to ''me'' without telling me, I'd be pretty mad. I get that Futaba is a member of the group and probably wouldn't do anything bad, and it comes up later during [[spoiler:the aftermath of Sae's palace]], but the ParanoiaFuel of knowing one of your teammates is watching you at ''all times'' doesn't help.

** 227someguy: Yeah, this is the worst moment in the game for me too. Ryuji's not the smartest party member, but he didn't deserve any of this. He literally saved everyone's lives (with a damaged leg), but is treated like a big loser. In particular, this was an OutOfCharacterMoment for [[SenpaiKohai Makoto]] and [[TheCutie Haru]], who would've never done something like this. This has even given me a BrokenPedestal towards Futaba, who was like the endearing little sister that I wish I had, and Yusuke, [[AccompliceByInaction who did nothing but watch and even abandoned Ryuji]]. These are supposed to be friends, but they still acted in such an ungrateful fashion. I've even come to accept Ryuji as one of my favorite characters since he's so UnintentionallySympathetic and flat out refuse to romance any of the female party members (except Yoshizawa, who wasn't present and [[NiceGuy would never do anything like that in a million years]]). That's right, they've all been disqualified as "best girl". While Morgana may be my least favorite party member, this was my least favorite scene. To think that this is the kind of story that practices FemalesAreMoreInnocent with its villains.

** Trialman: I’ll add onto this by bringing up the scene after completing Golden’s BonusDungeon. Golden on Steam was my first time with the series, and I had a blast the whole way through, in spite of some ridiculous scenes, including the first hot spring scene. Now, in Golden, when you complete the BonusDungeon and save Marie, there are a handful of scenes, which are either satisfying or cute, but then they get capped off with a second hot spring moment! This time, Yosuke and Teddy are intentionally spying on the girls, and have somehow got Kanji and Yu to help them with it. They knock over the fence, get busted, and Marie electrifies them for it. Okay, at least this time, there is some bad intent with two of the boys, but Yu and Kanji also end up being struck with GuiltByAssociation, and are attacked as well, despite not truly deserving it. Secondly, electrifying them around the hot springs? Surely that’s a lot more dangerous than needed. And of course, the fact that your reward for completing the BonusDungeon includes a second hot spring moment, as if the game needed that. The first was bad enough, so did we really need a second one, even if the inevitable outcome is slightly more justified. Again, a poor reward for finishing that BrutalBonusLevel, especially considering the other scenes like the snowball fight were much sweeter, and could have stood on their own.

* Grotadmorv: Before the Hawaii trip, the group takes a photo. Futaba, who isn't there, makes a comment about it. She reveals that she had put spyware on Joker's phone to allow her to see through his camera. This is incredibly creepy and a massive invasion of privacy, and yet everyone laughs it off as a joke. I get that Futaba is a member of the group and probably wouldn't do anything bad, and it comes up later during [[spoiler:the aftermath of Sae's palace]], but it leans into ParanoiaFuel knowing that Futaba can see everything you're doing for the rest of the game.