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Canon Defilement, Character By Character

So Dusk Shine has some chapters I haven't covered. One of them's actually pretty funny, in that "man, this story is stupidly outlandish" kind of way. I'll get to that later. Onto Rose Potter.

So, we have the first chapter where the author didn't change the title: "The Potions Master." If you recall the original book, it went something like this:

  • Harry is getting used to Hogwarts
  • Harry has his first classes, which are a bit more challenging than he anticipated
  • Harry has Potions. Snape is an asshole.
  • Harry meets with Hagrid and learns about the Gringotts break-in, realizing that it happened the same day he was in Diagon Alley with Hagrid.

Rose Potter follows a fairly similar pattern. Except since she's an utter sue, she doesn't have any trouble with her classes at all.

were the lessons themselves. The teachers were all impressed at my quick grasp of any magic or concept they taught. I thanked my lucky stars that I had the foresight to completely study Magical Theory before coming to Hogwarts; as there was much more to magic than just waving your wand and saying a few funny words.

For example, during the History of Magic lesson, Rose is all "Oh, Hermione and I were the only ones who were actually paying attention." And then in transfiguration, remember how in the original book Hermione was the only one who could turn the match into a needle and McGonagall gave her "a rare smile"? Well, lookie here.

It took me only three tries to get the transfiguration correct and a perfectly sharp needle was now in front of me. (McGonagall had helped me in the summer with it.) Professor McGonagall gave me one of her rare smiles again. By the end of the lesson Hermione was the only other pupil who had made any difference to her match; making it go shiny and pointy. I could also clearly see that the girl was miffed at being beaten.

Because it's not like Hermione being really smart and talented was a defining trait of hers. No, Rose has to take that attribute as well, leaving Hermione without a distinction of her own.

Because you see, Rose isn't just better than Harry, noooo, she's better than everyone, starting with Ron and Hermione!

She makes a point of how Hermione is oddly competitive about grads and house points, whereas level-headed Rose is just a diligent at her studies! She also makes a point about Ron being lazy and always asking to borrow her notes and how he just does the bare minimum required to get by.

You can tell the author really respects the characters.

You know, the thing about Fallout: Equestria was that it was sincerely fan fiction. The author liked the show and, for the most part, treated the canon characters with respect. I know some people complain about how the story treated the mane 6, but I honestly didn't have much of a problem there, except maybe for Pinkie Pie calling Twilight Sparkle a bitch. I mean, okay... they made mistakes and most of them ended up dying horribly, but that's because it's a tragedy. You can still tell the author is fond of them and all that. This... I'm not getting that. The author seems to have decided that Ron is just a waste of space and is writing accordingly, and Hermione appears to be redundant at best to him in his little world where the protagonist is already super-smart.

Oh yeah, and when the fuck did McGonagall help her with it over the summer? I thought the narration said that she didn't work on transfiguration because it was too advanced to immediately start on.

Now, in canon, Harry received a letter from Hagrid, and here Rose gets a letter from McGonagall, both of them asking her (with the exact same wording, I might add) to come over for tea. Though it should be mentioned that while Hagrid's letter was an "untidy scrawl," this one is in "a very neat hand."

And then it's off to the dungeons for potions and... oh boy.

Potions was... an interesting experience to say the least. At first I thought Professor Snape disliked me at the start-of-term banquet, but by the end of the lesson I was rather confused about the man’s state of mind about me.

In canon, it was "Snape didn't dislike him - he hated him." This is not going to be pleasant.

Now, you may recall this scene from the books where Snape singles out Harry to ask some questions for the purpose of humiliating him? In canon, Harry can't answer them, and Snape docks him a point from Gryffindor for being "cheeky" when he goes "why don't you ask Hermione?"

In this, Rose answers them all correctly, and is irritated by Hermione's raising her hand.

Okay, I get that Harry didn't like Hermione either at this point in the story, but that was because she was, to him, a bossy know-it-all. All the irritation he had with her kinda went away after they became friends. How much you wanna bet that even after they become "friends," Rose still finds Hermione annoying?

So the potions class continues more or less as canon, though there is this:

Snape however muttered something as he passed me, which made me confused, (‘So like her mother,’ he said.). I could not muse on this strange occurrence as my potion was in a critical stage.

and then Neville melts a cauldron and Snape snaps at Harry/Rose for letting him fail so that he'd look better by comparison. Now, in canon, Ron advised Harry not to start anything, but in this fic, Rose

Wait a minute.

Then he rounded on Ron and I.

Ron and me. "Then he rounded on I." I mean, seriously.

Anyway, Rose ignores Ron and bitches out Snape about "I had to watch my own potion!" and Snape asks her to stay after class.

“I’m sorry sir, if what I said was out of line,” I said not looking at the Potions Master, whose eyes gave her a strange sensation in the forefront of her mind.

You know, the first five chapters are all in one document on the yahoo group. I assumed that they had been written first, before the author posted any of it. I assumed that this was why they kept switching to third-person; that the author had initially written it in third-person and then went through to edit, but missed some spots. Now I see the author just wasn't paying attention and was fucking it up.

And I'm really annoyed at Rose's two-faced nature. She'll snap and bitch at an adult and then immediately apologize for being out of line. Whatever happened to that fucking "mental discipline" you harp on? Be fucking consistent with your characterization. If she's supposed to be mature and have all this "mental discipline" stuff, she shouldn't be snapping at people in the first place, because she'd have a better handle on her temper. This just makes her look like a twat.

Aaaand this is what the author has done to Snape.

“It is I who should be apologizing to you,” said Professor Snape, I frowned at that, “I have a certain reputation to uphold and pretences to maintain, Ms Potter. If it seems I am biased, it is because I need to be, it’s nothing personal, I never do anything without a purpose and those are my own.” There was silence for a moment.

"I bully students because I have a reputation to uphold." How the fuck is that supposed to make sense? In the books he picked on Harry because he held a childhood grudge against his father.

And Rose asks Snape if he knew her mother.

“Yes, I did, we were intellectual acquaintances during our Hogwarts years, and I would like to imagine we were friends for a period of time, until circumstances forced a parting of our ways,” answered Snape. “I want you to report here for an hour after dinner for the next week; give off the pretence of having detention with me for your outburst during class. I can see a budding Potions Mistress in you Ms Potter. Your mother despite her talent for Charms was a gifted Potions student, a talent I am happy to see you have inherited.”

So Snape is giving her private lessons. Gee, Snape, you gonna give that kind of preferential treatment to anyone else?

But you see, the other day as I was going over it I realized something. You see that "So like her mother" line? Bear in mind that in Deathly Hallows (which came out after this was written) it was revealed that Snape was in love with Lilly. And now he's giving Rose private lessons.

So if Snape wants to get closer to Rose because she reminds him of Lilly, well... kinda creepy, doncha think? Although I do admit, this is probably the most interesting original thing the author has added to this. And he did it completely on accident. And it's still stupid.

So Rose goes to visit Professor McGonagall for tea, and they have a pointless discussion about that stuff about Muggle Social Services and the Dursleys and blah blah blah she won't have to go back to them and the Dursleys can never adopt children again aaaand basically this entire deal with Rose breaking Vernon's arm and the stuff with Muggle Social Services is completely pointless and just plain boring to read through.

But the main point here is this: Professor McGonagall is going to adopt Rose.

“It would be the honour of my life to do this for you Rosey,” said Professor McGonagall, “I also don’t offer this just because you are the Girl-Who-Lived; that is a public conception and title. I have not come to love that. I have come to love Rosey, the girl who amazes me to this day by finding her feet so well in this strange world that has been thrust upon her.”

I liked canon McGonagall. She was stern. Dignified. She didn't fucking coo over Harry like this.

The subject of people complaining because of Rose being naked also comes up. McGonagall, of course, being the stern stickler for the rules that she is, tells her she that if her behavior is upsetting the other girls she has to learn to live with it and abide by the same standards as everyone else.

“I see.” Minerva frowned as if contemplating something and then seemed to come to a decision. “Rose, do you know what a Druidess is?”

Huh?

“Um, don’t they specialize in magic that changes nature itself to suit their needs or something, or becoming animals themselves at will,” I answered, recalling what I had heard from Muggle fairytales, and History of Magic.

“That is part of it, yes, but there is also a religious component to it,” stated Minerva, “and there are many beliefs and practices involved as well. One of these beliefs are called Nudatio; it’s the practice of being one with nature or in simpler terms, not wearing clothes.”

Where are we going with this?

“I will allow you to continue doing this, because you are my child now and if it makes you happy it makes me happy,” said Minerva, “I will speak to the complainant and tell her you are merely practising your Druidic belief, but Rosey I must insist that you follow through with all that is involved in becoming a Druidess. You can’t just use the Druidic code as a shield for walking around in the nude. Understand?” I nodded. “Good, it has also given me some inspiration on where we can go for the coming summer.”

Nevermind. I somehow got this thing mixed up with the McGonagall in canon. Ugh. Why are all of these teachers giving her preferential treatment? Harry didn't have it this cushy.

And... yeah. This is one of the other things with this story. Rose isn't just a nudist. She becomes a druid. And, as McGonagall points out, this is gonna give her more powers.

So she goes to the Great Hall.

“Hey Rose,” said Ron, “where were you?"

“I had to go speak to Professor McGonagall regarding matters of my guardianship?” I replied.

“Oh, and?”

“Well, the Family Council has ruled already, and I have chosen a proper magical guardian who will actually look after me, in fact, she offered it to me first,” I smiled happily.

“Really, that’s great! Who is it?” asked Ron.

“I can’t say with so many ears around us, I don’t want her to be mobbed by the press,” I whispered in Ron’s ear.

Get used to another recurring theme: Rose keeping secrets from her friends, especially Ron. It'll be quite noticeable as the story progresses how little she lets him know about anything. She doesn't tell him about the adoption (why the fuck do you feel the need to keep an adoption secret?) or about the secret potions lessons. The story seems determined to minimize Ron's role - in canon, when Harry went to visit Hagrid, Ron came along with. Ron didn't go with Rose to meet with McGonagall. And for that matter, yay for reducing Hagrid's role.

And the scene proceeds with them reading the Daily Prophet and reading about the Gringotts break-in, which Rose, like Harry, realizes was on her birthday, and that it must've been the package from the vault they were after. Not quite a punchline of an ending, I admit.

In a sense, I do enjoy reading and writing about this. Fallout: Equestria annoyed me endlessly, but this fic is just out-and-out bad. It's a marvelous example of how not to write a fanfic, or indeed, how not to write a story in general. Everything about it that isn't straight-up plagiarized is completely awful, in so many ways, whether it's the protagonist's Sueishness or general unlikability, the treatment of canon characters... and it's just gonna get more and more, people. More and more. And at no point will I have to go "hey, that was a pretty good scene" or "hey, that was a neat idea" or "hey, that was a funny joke." I can say that Fallout: Equestria warrants discussion. The Girl Who Lived warrants only mockery.

Comments

Unknownlight Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 23rd 2013 at 6:34:35 PM
I tried reading the chapters you sent me. I couldn't stomach it. So it looks like you'll be reading it for me. =D

> "hey, that was a neat idea"

The concept of Snape hating Harry but adoring Rose could have been a clever idea, like you mentioned. Harry reminds Snape of James, who he hates, but Rose reminds him of Lily, who he loves. That would've been a legitimate and fairly creative way that the books would change had Harry been a girl. I was planning on mentioning this after reading the first Snape quote you included...and then you revealed this was written prior to Deathly Hallows.

Man, this story can't do anything right.

Is there any justification for Mc Gonagall adopting Rose considering the reason the Dursleys were taking care of Harry in the first place was because he was protected from Voldemort there?
Pannic Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 23rd 2013 at 7:43:24 PM
Nope. Bear in mind, that revelation didn't come until Deathly Hallows, which I mentioned came out after this was written.

Actually, the story just stopped updating after Deathly Hallows came out, 'cause it shot the fic to pieces. The author had screwed up canon too much to be able to plagiarize and have it work.
Unknownlight Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 23rd 2013 at 9:23:55 PM
It did?

...Oh yeah, it did. Huh. Apparently all the books have merged together in my mind.

What prevented Deathly Hallows from being adapted? I can't think of any changes that would simultaneously prevent him from plagiarizing the book without those changes to have significantly affected the books before (and preventing them from being plagiarized too).
Pannic Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 23rd 2013 at 10:18:42 PM
Well, one thing in particular has to do with Rose's relationship with Dumbledore. Rose makes a big deal about how they're so freaking close and it's like he's her grandfather.

Well, then when Deathly Hallows comes along, it turns out Dumbledore really didn't tell her all that much in the grand scheme of things - her being a horcrux, mainly. Not to mention how a big part of that book was how Dumbledore wasn't quite as wonderful as Harry once thought.

At least, that's a possibility. The basic facts are that chapter six or seven of Rose Potter and the Half-Blood got posted, then a couple weeks later Deathly Hallows hit the bookstore, and Rose Potter was never seen again.
Unknownlight Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 12:16:04 AM
Huh. That's...disappointing?

I'm not sure.

Is the author still around?
Pannic Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 12:28:48 AM
His most recent thing was some Star Trek Deep Space Nine fic that he started in April, posted a few updates going into May, aaaand that's the most recent activity on his fanfiction.net account. So hard to say.
Forsite Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 4:08:05 AM
So she wants to be nude so now she's converting to some nudist religion? Does Mc Gonagall believe in the druid religion? She seems to care enough to make sure Rose does. It seems like a dodgy way to go about converting someone Rose has no idea what druids even believe yet, what if they still did human sacrifice's like in some of the muggle fairy-tales she'd have read? It sounds like someone trying to set up a joke based around religious exception but the author does not seem to know humour
RN452 Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 7:59:07 AM
Serious, this guy needs to watch Diamond In The Rough. But I really found interesting how you analyzed the only interesting thing of this fanfic to be totally accidental.
ILSS Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 7:23:31 PM
You know, the thing about Fallout: Equestria was that it was sincerely fan fiction. The author liked the show and, for the most part, treated the canon characters with respect.
Fluttershy being the obvious exception, there.
Pannic Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 8:15:26 PM
I'd actually say Pinkie Pie was the one that came closest to the line. With Fluttershy it's less about the author not respecting the source material and more a matter of some of the story's more bothersome shticks, in this case the whole "not wanting to murder things is stupid" thing.
Seraphem Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 24th 2013 at 10:37:34 PM
Seriously? The story NEVER played Fluttershy as OOC, or ever in the story at all had a "not wanting to murder things is stupid" thing. I, I really have no clue what to say about that.

Again, so, it's bette to let a socipathic murdering rapist, go on raping torturing and murdering, when the only other option is to put them down?

As to Fluttershy, what she did was ENTRILY in character for her. Giving every side something she felt would save lives and end the war. her only issue was being to naive and to unwilling to even consider that her gift could be turned from a defensive use, to an offensive one.
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 25th 2013 at 9:37:47 AM
As to Fluttershy, what she did was ENTRILY in character for her. Giving every side something she felt would save lives and end the war. her only issue was being to naive and to unwilling to even consider that her gift could be turned from a defensive use, to an offensive one.

It's worth noting that she did this after witnessing firsthand during the first test that even the defensive version was seriously, I'd almost say irreparably flawed. It caused a catastrophic amount of extra suffering because whoever wasn't already dead got to get up and start shooting each other again. Any sane person would have rethought their approach after such a terrible backfire.

As to Pannic's current review, this almost makes me want to try to get into the actual series again (just wasn't feeling it and I have no idea why, since I did want to actually get into it) so I have more context on where all the characterization is dominoing. >.>
Seraphem Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 25th 2013 at 9:02:21 PM
Except the way she saw her plan going, it wouldn't have mater. neither side would have been able to kill anyone on the other side, either due to shields or healing. So fighting would become pointless.

Was it entirely naive, again, yes, but it's fully in character for Fluttershy.
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 25th 2013 at 10:08:02 PM
I find it pretty much impossible to believe that after such a horrifyingly traumatic field test, she would have remained that naive. The story made damn sure to turn all her intentions right around into causing more suffering, shove it in her face, then smear it all over her face like a clump of feces.
Sereg Since: Dec, 1969
Jul 26th 2013 at 2:04:17 PM
Fluttershy is the FOE character I respect the most. So, I certainly see the fic as treating her well.

Then again, I can be weird about these things.
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