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CRISIS: Equestria, the livebloggening
Yay! Looking forward to it!!
DarkLink313
Sereg
WOOT, can't wait.
Seraphem
Eh, yeah it takes a bit for the fic to really get going and find it's footing, the begging is fun, but it really starts to get going later. the part I dn't get, amsot none of the clothes they were actaully covers there rear. so why bother?
Seraphem
storyyeller
Cookoo
I look forward to it. It wouldn't be the first thing I've read where the author gets loads better over the course of their story and it's always fun to watch it happen. As it stands right now, it's definitely interesting, but falls right in line with my impression of it when I first saw it go up on EQD.
CDRW
Agreed with Cookoo. The fic definitely improves over time. Also, a he said, your preference of Ganon's handling of canon characters to
O Cs is...unusual to say the least. But I probably didn't are that much abou them at this point either as we hadn't got to properly know them yet.
As I've said before, New Pandemonium City is actually less of a Dysopia than I expected. And it comtains plenty of completely decent ponies.
I'll admit that I headjump too much in my own writng, so it doesn't really bother me in other people's writing. I simpl welcome a new point of view.
Yeah, I personally think that the mane reason Flathoof didn't want his name on the paperwork was Genre Saviness.
While Flthoof is indeed meant to be the Big Mac expy, I...don't actually
think Tick Tock is supposed to be the Lyra expy...Unless we're to blinded by Awesome Snarky British Timepony to notice.
"Waitwaitwait. If New Pandemonium City and Utopia are separated by a magical wall of incomprehensible power, how on earth is there any traffic between the two?"
It's not actually designed to prevent ponies from crossing (still makes it difficult though). Can't say much more as it's almost all spoilers.
You're right that Silvertongue would be an
awful way to play a CE character. Because he isn't CE
at all. He's the LE cleric of a CE goddess (in a campaign which allows that). He commits arbitrary evil because it feeds his goddess. But most of his on-screen villany is either part of his plans, or punishing those who've dissapointed him.
Sereg
Yeah, the wall is just a side effect of the two forces meeting,tehre are a few safe passages through it. And OH BOY, you have no idea, yeah the OC's start out a bit rought but they get MUCH better.
Seraphem
It's already been said but I think your problem with Silvertongue is you're reading him as CE for some reason.
DarkLink313
CDRW
CDRW
Sereg
Didn't know he was a Soarin Expy, but he is awesome, even GINGER loves him! but yeah you get a MUCH better idea of Silvertongue later, and can't say anything about him without spoilers. i will say this, Nihila is VERY CE, Silvetongue....you'll see.
Seraphem
Flathoof's character really starts coming to life in chapter 4. But you've given me a hilarious view of Flathoof in glasses going, "Evil is so manestream." and "I was a paladin before it was cool."
"but I just can't find her train of though believable. She's making intuitive leaps that she really shouldn't be able to "
So, you think that there's too much "artificial smartness" in the
O Cs? Like how in Death Note, characters where able to work out stuff they really shouldn't have been capable of?
And now you've met Lockwood. The second
Memetic Sex God of this story. As Ginger says, he's actually already seduced the entire cast, but as it didn't require him to exert effort, it happened off-screen.
Anyway, it makes MUCH more sense in a later chapter why Flathoof's capable of calling in such massive favours from Lockwood. Also, Lockwood's special talent is social networking, so this kind of thing is old hat to him.
"Ok, either Ganon FLCL is being really inconsistent with his building size, or I've got a completely borked up mental image of this mega-apartment. "
MOST floors would probably have been the better wording, but the mane point to take away is that the building is really badly organised.
"Anybody as trusting as these guys would be robbed blind twice a week, and pretty soon they'd learn to stop trusting random undocumented ponies they picked up off the street. "
The Mane 6's team actually do get bitten in the flank for being so trusting. However, Flathoof doesn't think that they'll be going anywhere, because he'll be watching them.
"Okay. That's straight-up shipping there. No bones about it. "
Believe it or not, gets more blatant over time.
"Am I in the process of watching Snapshot join the side of evil because she's horny and desperate? Because that's actually kind of cool."
That actually IS an interesting
Start Of Darkness. I wonder if there are stories that have used it...that are good...and not porn.
"Oh! Is he a mindreader of some sort? Is that his special power? "
Thank you for that mental image. It will help me sleep at night. As if Shadowstep needed wasn't terrifying enough.
"Your methods are excessive and detrimental to your goals. Bad assassin! "
Silvertongue actualy does complain about this, but he still managed to clean up. Probably had strong cleaning agents and enzymes.
Still, you haven't seen him anyhere near his coolest and most effective yet.
Sereg
CDRW
Swasfews
I wasn't meaning to criticise Death Note. It's one of my favourite anime. I was just using a well known example. But mostly I agree with Swa. Probably personal prefferece on my part. Still, that kind of issue doesn't remain relevant for very long, so don't worry.
Sereg
I', with those two, It took me two of your chapter reviews to even realise what you meant by "headjumping" and i don't recal it so it was something I just didn't notice. and yeah Lockwood 's secial talent is pretty much knowing exactly who he can trust, how much, making connections, stuff like that. And snapshot has most likely seen so many ponies in her line of work she's just gotten used to telling these sorts of things.
Seraphem
Oh, I also wanted to say that while Flathoof doesn't believe that they're from Utopia, he still likes to humour them about that, partially as h has no idea where they're acually from, so don't think he's lost several IQ points in chapter 4 agan. Also, chapter 4 is a major plot accelerating chapter as well.
Sereg
"D: D: D: "
Yeah, I really feel sorry for Snapshot.
"Oh geeze, is our memetic sex goddess going to get herself ravished? "
Tick Tock has acquired her first stalker! :D
"Oh shit. Without them in their own universe, Discord is going to break out again. "
Discord's involvement was actually a retcon, but a good one IMO.
"I can forgive her any idiocy if she keeps the snark up. "
Tick Tock is so beautifully snarky.
"Please tell me that at some point in this story, Shadowstep yells "Sneak attack, bitch!" That would be the most awesome thing in the world. "
While it would be, Shadowstep seems to be too much of a gentlestallion to call his love a "bitch".
"Oh wait, he's going down to confirm. I take back the noob comment. Still, you need to develop some Genre Savvy. "
Yeah, he knows that he can't assume that she's dead, which annoys him.
"It seems this really is the point where it starts getting good. "
And it gets more fun later on!
Sereg
Seraphem
These chapters were written before Season Two started; originally the world was just out of balance and that was bad, but Season Two brought Discord who the author retconned in since him escaping was much better. The author did a few other retcons here and there I think, based on Season Two episodes as they came out.
DarkLink313
huh, interesting.
Seraphem
"This is...disappointingly underwhelming. I can see where the author is coming from with the tranquil rage thing, and approve of that; but other than that sentence, there's little evidence in his actions or words that indicates he's angry. This is a classic case of telling instead of showing. He doesn't even need to change all that much either. Throw in a few details about him taking some bites from his breakfast and leaving deep scratches in the plate with his knife or something. Drag it out with little details like that, make us wonder if that tranquil fury is on the verge of becoming non-tranquil. As things stand right now, there's no tension in the scene at all. "
You do have a point here, but Silvertongue's future rages are a bit more satisfying.
"This is actually a bad policy for any villain in charge to take. Instant-death-on-failure results in an extremely high turnover rate and you'll never get anypony to stay on long enough to build up the required experience to do the jobs you want. And the ones who are experienced and competent are valuable even if they have screwed the pooch big time. Severe punishment to put the fear of God into them is acceptable. Even demotion and humiliation if they're not up to working in that environment, but don't waste your best men unless they're an active danger to your continued prosperity. I take this as more evidence of Stupid Evil. The Chaotic traits I noticed in his first introduction have been toned down a lot, but not enough for me to declare an alignment change yet. "
You do have a point here, but Silvertongue's not as bad as
some villians about this and he doesn't always punish through death as you'll see.
"If you really wanted to throw a bit of chaos into the mix, you'd charge a not inconsiderable fee for those mandated immunizations. Better yet, say it's free, but then hit them upside the head with other charges. Like a "waiting room fee." "
Another reason that the place is less of a dystopia than I expected.
"-facepalm- Never mind. Seriously, this sort of shipping seems really out of place in this story. "
Yeah, I get you there. But at least it kind of becomes relevant later on.
"Okay. The gag with the doctor trying to take Pinkie's readings is actually quite funny. I want to know what the Japanese part says. "
Same here!
"So. Not much happened in this chapter, but it set the stage for some interesting stuff down the line. I guess it was all right. When the mane six weren't talking to each other. Seriously though, why are they even friends in this story at all? They're all cunts. I am officailly rooting for everybody except the mane six. Go Nihila! Go Tick Tock! Go die in a fire Rarity! "
And now you understand why we love the
O Cs so much more than the canon characters. Seriously, there's a chapter where they don't even appear and it's a
very well regarded chapter!
Still, you have some
very fun stuff to look forward to.
Sereg
ThePulse
Seraphem
DarkLink313
"Oh Tick Tock. You should know better than that. "
She really should. Then again, wih the kind of stuff she deals with, she probably doesn't consider him particularly abnormal yet.
"Ever since I started abbreviating Tick Tock's name as TT, I keep reading it as "Titty." It's distracting. "
Well, we did come to the conclusion that her humanised form must have a nice pair based on the attention she recieves. :-P
"Twi starts arguing with the Chronomancer about how magic doesn't work that way. Titty is appropriately annoyed. "
Oh yeah,
Word Of God is that everyone in this fic thinks that they know more about what they're talking about than they actualy do. This becomes rather apparent in the later chapters.
"And now TT, who is starting to become affected by the idiocy field that the mane six project, has accidentally revealed who Doctor Whooves is. Dunno if that's going to come back to bite them in the ass. "
I'm not sure about that. It seems to have been working out well for her so far. I assumed that she did it to convince them which it did.
"I can't help but think it's a bad idea to do cross-dimensional shipping unless they manage to find a way around the whole "their existance in this world unbalances the fundamental forces of nature" deal. It might be an issue in their relationships. "
I've been thinking the same thing! I mean, those kind of long distance relationships don't end well. Unless they're planning on going "Hey! We've only known each other for a while, but dump your
entire universe and come live with me!"
"Oh fuck this. Pinke has a pinchy knee and Twilight for some reason doesn't trust her powers any more? It's established canon that Twilight doesn't have a problem with the Pinkie Sense any more! There goes the last shred of my suspension of disbelief. "
I was taken aback by this, but apparently it was annoyance rather than disbelief which is a bit more understandable.
"Ha ha! As usual, the O Cs save the story. Tick Tock is cute like this. :3 "
They do that. And yeah, Tick Tock can be pretty cute. :3
"I liked Snapshot (D:). Why'd she have to go out like such a bitch? "
Agreed. D:
"GODDAMN IT FLATHOOF! CHECK THE FUCKING BODY! "
At least he's more
Genre Savvy than Tick Tock here.
Next chapter is another plot accelarating one. I'm looking forward to your reaction to it.
Sereg
CDRW
Eh, I get the impression that ordenary ponies don't really register. It takes phenominal cosmic forces to do that kind of thing.
Sereg
Oh, another thing. IIRC, chapter 7 is the first chapter where the Mane 6 themselves don't actually appear, so that should give you some respite.
Sereg
Yeah, I normal ponies wouldn't do anything, it is ONLY because the Mane 6 are the Elements of Harmony that it effects anything.
Seraphem
=D You seemed to give this chapter nothing but praise, which I think we all expected. Just wait until Chapter 9, where you get to see them in action - easily one of the best chapters in the fic.
DarkLink313
Sereg
ThePulse
as to the eye, well you find out later just how much mental discipline he has instilled in himself over the years, it makes sense he can ignore it.
Seraphem
Swasfews
DarkLink313
CDRW
Well, the specific instance I'm thinking of is hard to ignore. If it's Pinkie singing, it should be okay to skip, though.
Swasfews
Sereg
only pony whose was so OOC it pised me off was as said RD, but there is a HUGE payoff for it later. And yeh now that they are out of the city they start NOT being so annoying next chapter, HOOO boy hurry up it is EPIC!
Seraphem
I feel colossal amusement at how you feel about Rarity/Lockwood. Colossal. I am giggling like a schoolgirl over here.
DarkLink313
Cookoo
Grayscale=Rainbow
Havocwing=Fluttershy
DuesAJ
But Jetstream specifically thought of Dash when Havocwing came out.
CDRW
Mean six. Got it.
CDRW
Sereg
Heck yes I want pictues!
CDRW
Sereg
Sereg
Seraphem
Yay you're finally here! Glad to hear your opinions on the main draw of the fic! These characters are amongst the best in the fandom, all around from their interactions with the other characters to one another. Looking forward to hearing your opinions on them as they grow as characters.
DarkLink313
ThePulse
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