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How to cheat death at every opportunity! Let's Play Final Fantasy IV (Includes Final Fantasy IV -Interlude-)
Variable93
ZeroPotential
PataHikari
Jhiday
SomeColorMage
Baron does not respect other countries sovereignty at all. They probably decided to 'clean up' a few loose ends while going off to war against the nation Kaipo is a part.
JeremyKopczynski
Yes, this is a war, and even if it wasn't it will be very soon. I think we can just chalk it up to Kaipo being really poorly defended. Which raises a few more questions, but I should stop reading too much into it.
SomeColorMage
JeremyKopczynski
SomeColorMage
JeremyKopczynski
Zalis
I find it strangely amusing that Edward's best ability is to cower in a corner and hope nobody notices him, if only because it makes multi-target healing spells stronger.
ShieldOfDoom
Kinkajou
sigh, Tellah really should have spent his time using cure of Anna instead of attacking Edward. Actually, since Edward is so weak how did he survive Tellah's attacks. Gameplay and Storyline Seperation fustrated me as a child so much.
JeremyKopczynski
You know what's the best part of FFIV? How they take away all the best characters before the endgame. That's just wonderful.
EponymousKid
SomeColorMage
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Rosa gets even better in the DS version : for some reason, arrows are never consumed ; and Pray also restores some MP.
Jhiday
EponymousKid
Jhiday
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Pray is what I've usually got on auto-battle in the DS version, it's got a lot lower failure rate than in the, for lack of a better word, 'normal' version too. Of course, Pray is my default in this version too, but that's for resource management reasons, which due to Pray restoring MP and infinite arrows, wasn't a problem in the DS version.
SomeColorMage
Ah, yes. Yang is one of the powerhouses of the game, and I preferred bringing him to the Final Dungeon over Edge.
Kinkajou
Jhiday
Yang is my favorite FFIV non-spellcaster. A zero-MP hit all enemies attack is great. Plus, he does some pretty awesome things in the plot as well.
JeremyKopczynski
EponymousKid
At the endgame of the GBA/PSP versions, you get all but 2 party members back. If you know the story, it should be obvious who is out.
SomeColorMage
Jhiday
Edward can actually be decent in this sequence, as his attacks inflict confuse nearly every time. However, I didn't take advantage of that, as I had auto battle on. Also, his tripping while running to the Crystal Chamber is unforgivable.
SomeColorMage
Ah yes, you're nearing the part where Cecil goes solo for a bit. Shouldn't be too hard with the Deathbringer and all.
Kinkajou
SomeColorMage
See, Yang has awesome plot moments not just as a combatent. Also, isn't the area after Cecil gets new party members crawling with undead? Undead which are resistent to dark based attacks such as what Cecil uses.
JeremyKopczynski
Yes, but he's no longer solo at that point, and one of the new party members can just set the undead on fire.
SomeColorMage
Jhiday
Kinkajou
I didn't unequip Edward for a good reason. Yes, the twin mages are useful endgame (there's no useless endgame characters, just ones that aren't as good as others). Yes, I'm saving Cockatrice for later. And yes, Cecil has been an arsehole.
SomeColorMage
JeremyKopczynski
Jhiday
I'd figure there's some ancient legend about the whole paladin thing, despite the fact that under the current conditions, the paladin trial would only have been around for 20 years.
SomeColorMage
Jhiday
EponymousKid
Paladin Cecil at level 1 is actually stronger than Dark Knight Cecil at level 20, which just drives home the point that it's his true form, so to speak.
Kinkajou
SomeColorMage
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Kinkajou: Yeah? I didn't remember that. Still, I don't recall him being much more than "the guy with lots of HP."
EponymousKid
Status effects actually work in this game? So, many hours of my life wasted.
JeremyKopczynski
Well, just Slow. And Sap. And anything attached to a weapon attack. Casting status spells other than Slow is mostly useless unless you're playing the DS version
SomeColorMage
But yes, Slow works on pretty much everything. I honestly can't think of a boss it isn't a godsend against. For bonus points cast Haste on your spellcasters to really wreck shit.
EponymousKid
Random fact, if you cast Esuna on Yang it'll heal the brainwashing.
PataHikari
More information I could have used many years ago.
JeremyKopczynski
Jhiday
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I could have used that info too.
SomeColorMage
Wouldn't have done you any good Mage, as I can attest that it doesn't work in the PSP version.
BetaRay
It is NEVER good news when the party gets over five people strong in this game. The plot always manages to get us back under the limit.
Jhiday
Cid is another one of my favorite characters in this game. Mostly because he's a funny little biker viking guy.
EponymousKid
I enjoy Cid a lot for his role in the storyline, but I don't really care for him as a playable character — mostly because he's most often there at the same time as Yang, and the two of them are kinda redundant. We're a bit lacking in magical power right now (Tellah's our main magic offense but has annoyingly low MP, and that puts Cecil into the medic role, which isn't something he's very good at).
Jhiday
JeremyKopczynski
Jhiday
SomeColorMage
Kinkajou
JeremyKopczynski
Eh, somewhat. The lines for a few characters are changed around and it can be a bit jarring. I have to do the final boss twice (I plan to do original party first, then Cecil, Cid, Yang, Porom and Edward), so when that time comes, you can judge for yourself.
SomeColorMage
EponymousKid
Cool, thanks.
JeremyKopczynski
SomeColorMage
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Zalis
The no Metal thing is probably part of the reason this section of the game was so fustrating.
JeremyKopczynski
Kinkajou
If I remember correctly, Cecil can still use bows in the cave, so I guess it's better than him walking around punching ppl in the face.
nightwyrm_zero
SomeColorMage
nightwyrm_zero is correct — give Cecil a bow with a selection of arrows to exploit enemy elemental weaknesses, and he'll be able to do some semi-respectable damage in the Magnetic Cave.
Zalis
Jhiday
That's actually the first time I've used the Tornado strategy, to be honest. I knew of it for ages, but never bothered to try it.
SomeColorMage
I have to say, I miss the All Caps retard speak used by the Dark Elf in the SNES version. It makes him even more hilariously pathetic than he already is.
Zalis
Jhiday
SomeColorMage
@Jhiday: Tellah didn't quite have all the spells in the game. He was missing Flare, Break, Death, and Holy.
Zalis
Korval
I never let Calcabrina form; gave me much less stress.
Kinkajou
I'm going for full bestiary; I needed to kill one Calca, one Brina and Calcabrina itself. I did nearly kill them all by the time Calcabrina formed though, there were only two Calca left and I think one of them was badly damaged.
SomeColorMage
I have to agree with Kain. A lot of party members do seem to sacrifice themselves at the drop of a hat.
JeremyKopczynski
Zalis
Just commenting to add that this theoretically should work in all versions, but before the DS version you'd need to do it manually, and in the DS version you can just buy them anyway.
SomeColorMage
SomeColorMage
JeremyKopczynski
The important thing is that the four Malboro fight is done. Hardest fight in the game, IMO, except maybe some postgame stuff.
SomeColorMage
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SuperEttlesby64
SomeColorMage
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Wow, that's a lot of Sirens. I take it you plan on getting the adamant armor?
JeremyKopczynski
Yep. There's no other rare encounters that you really need Sirens for outside of the DS version.
SomeColorMage
It's "Moon" Time!!!
MadWritter
JeremyKopczynski
Hey, like I said, 9000+ damage. It'll definitely find use later.
SomeColorMage
Gasp, I think I missed the Excalibur on my latest DS playthrough... and the Moon dungeons are indeed murder enough to make me give up. Time to check whether I've got a pre-Fusoya save...
Jhiday
More like a serial killer if you ask me!
MadWritter
SomeColorMage
Jhiday
Well, you were pretty close to the end. There's only one dungeon left in that version.
SomeColorMage
Korval
Zalis
Epyon
You mean, as PALOM uses Black Magic. Porom uses White Magic (and was the one you brought with you).
HeroicJay
Ah damnit, I knew I messed something up. Fixed.
SomeColorMage
EndarkCuli
SomeColorMage
I agree. Probably the first time I was really caught off-guard was during the Underground Waterway; since Darkness is a buff instead of a non-physical technique, I kept getting my kiester kicked until I decided to just have Cecil spend the entire boss battle feeding potions and the rare Ether to the magicians. I've gotten a lot farther since then, spending enough of my free time to reach the Tower of Zot, but there's still a phethora of difficulties I need to keep a keen eye out for.
EndarkCuli
SomeColorMage
165 fights for a single tail, huh? And some people just keep going until they have one for each current member of the party? I'm not certain if anyone who's ever gone through with this task has heard compliments as much as they should, but I'm sincerely awed by those with the patience and tenacity to accomplish such a feat. A truly impressive job, good sir!
EndarkCuli
SomeColorMage
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108.18.118.122
EndarkCuli
SomeColorMage
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And now, I have to do the trial again on a second save file because guess what? The monsters that you shouldn't fight if you want to get the White Ring? Unique to Rosa's trial! At least I don't have to rush this time...
SomeColorMage
What is wrong with Edge?
JeremyKopczynski
Lots of things.
SomeColorMage
I feel sorry for the people of Eblan. Unless he pulls a Theseus and invents democracy, they are going to be in for a 'fun' ride.
JeremyKopczynski
An interesting trial, if I do say so myself. Most of these things have been gimmicks, like 'fight all the monks' or 'always act like a good guy', but this one had a lot more...can I call it 'plot' and/or 'development' if the main game's already been beaten?
EndarkCuli
There's an interesting quirk with this trial: Kain's trial uses the real Baron's map, which means you can pick up the hidden items there if you didn't already get them from the normal version. There's no real point to this, it's just something I happenned to find out.
67.0.17.102
This trial is annoying for another reason besides the timed missions: it moves one of your airships around and drops it on an isolated spot on the world map. It's pretty much impossible to get them all in one place afterwards.
Mysterion
To be fair, by this point, the only locations you need are Mysidia and the various Red Moon dungeons.
SomeColorMage
When I first went up against Zeromus EG I ended up using the Lunar Dragon Book on him to see what it would do...it turned him into a frog. After staring blankly for a few moments I pummeled the crap out of him, achieving a very cheap, but very hilarious victory.
ComicX6
Ah yes, I forgot to mention that while Zeromus EG might be resistant to Lunar Eidolon damage, they do inflict status ailments on him. Lets you return the favour of the Toad-Mini combo he does.
SomeColorMage
Wow, Final Fantasy IV really does have useful status effects.
JeremyKopczynski
That could get tedius fast. I hope it goes well.
JeremyKopczynski
SomeColorMage
Man, I admire your dedication. I could never go for a 100% completion like this.
BetaRay
Does any of this care over into the later games? Because, wow this is a lot of effort. I thank you for all your work in showing off all the features.
JeremyKopczynski
SomeColorMage
Speaking of TAY, are you going to cover that game too? And Interlude too, I guess?
BetaRay
Interlude shall be covered in this Let's Play, it uses the exact same engine to FFIV (unlike TAY, which has a few changes) so I may as well get it out of the way. TAY? Yes, but not now.
SomeColorMage
So have you actually played this before or is this your first time through?
BetaRay
Played it before, but definitely not as much as FFIV.
SomeColorMage
Biggs and Wedge have been in games that didn't kill them off: Chrono Trigger, FF 8, 10 and X-2, 12 (as "Gibbs and Deweg"), Kingdom Hearts, and one got a cameo in Tactics Advance. Sure, they died in the first two Final Fantasy games they were in (and, er, in After Years), but that doesn't mean they die in EVERY game.
HeroicJay
I am aware of that, but I'm more interested in the older FF games than the newer ones. I don't remember any Biggs and Wedge in CT and KH, though.
SomeColorMage
ShieldOfDoom
Is there anyone who likes fighting Trap Doors and Demon Walls?
JeremyKopczynski
Does liking using Reflect against Trap Doors count?
SomeColorMage
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Maybe. That still does not justify forcing so many fights without Reflect available. Wait, were there any items in interlude which can cast Reflect like Veils etc.?
JeremyKopczynski
I don't recall encountering any yet, but I think there might be one or two Lunar Curtains around. The amount of Ethers the dungeon gives out makes it more of an easy annoyance as long as they don't target Porom.
SomeColorMage
Are bats the enemies that drain your HP? I always hated those. Especially when the hit points kept decreasing even after healing.
JeremyKopczynski
Yep, the bats are the ones that spam Bloodfeast. Sap and the animation takes way too long, even in auto battle. And they're fast enough for our heroes to be hit with the attack several times before we can make an action. I hate the bats in this game.
SomeColorMage
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JeremyKopczynski
JeremyKopczynski
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