Created By: The Auditor on January 17, 2010 Last Edited By: FallenLegend on October 29, 2010
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LongingForPandora

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A work of fiction with a very immersive setting cause appears so idealistic and 'perfect' in comparison to boring, everyday life it causes fans of a certain disposition to feel the need to emotionally invest themselves on it

Mild effects may be seen.Particulary a sense of removal from real life and depression. Fantasy may feel in some ways superior to Real Life.Fictional character may seems more 'likeable" and "real" than actual people.

A fan not only wishes there was No Fourth Wall, they would also like to become a part of the world, or meet the character they love. FanFics and SelfInsertFics can be a way to fulfill this desire.

Unlike a Daydream Believer, this type of fan knows that what they want can never happen and are tortured by it. They are realistic, not delusional, but that won't stop them wishing for it to be true.


Examples:

Films
  • Bridge to Terabithia.In this movie the main two characters created a fictional word called terabithia.To deal with their school troubles.They are aware it is a fanatsy and wish it was real.Altough this doesn't stop them for having fun.
  • In TheMatrix there is a character that is so tired of Real Life.That he willingly asks the agents to be re-improsioned in the matrix, as a rich celebrity.Despite the fact he is aware that the matrix is unreal , he prefers it than real life

Web Comics WebComics

Meta examples:

Films

Literature
  • Twilight: Edward Cullen is the ultimate heart-throb for Teenage girls. Levels of devotion to Edward are so high, they have spawned a huge range of "I <3 Edward" and "Mr. and Mrs. Cullen" merchandise

Literature
  • This also happened with the original Lord of the Rings novels. As Peter S. Beagle put it in his introduction to the Ballantine edition:
Lovers of Middle-Earth want to go there. I would myself, like a shot.
Web Original
  • People on FandomSecrets are often known to submit secrets that they have always wanted to join the members of XYZ continuity in whatever they're doing, knowing full well that a) they're fictional and b) the anonymous people in question are "too old to believe in such things".

Community Feedback Replies: 48
  • January 17, 2010
    Warlock
    Not to the extent of the other examples, but I remember hearing something along these lines around the time of the Lord Of The Rings movies. On a more sane note, tourism in NZ around and after the films improved, and I'd heard discussions of people moving there for this reason.
  • January 17, 2010
    valbinooo
    I've seen this happen in the Naruto fandom a bit. Lots of people want to be Bad Ass ninjas. It's a bit frightening. As well as the Draco In Leather Pants phenomenon among the Akatsuki. ._.
  • January 17, 2010
    Deboss
    I recommend Longing For Utopia. Simply because we're apparently trying to cut down on naming after works/characters.
  • January 17, 2010
    moocow1452
  • January 17, 2010
    Superior
    ^No, it is not for actually believing daydreams, more like wishing it would be real.
  • January 17, 2010
    Assistant
    Isn't this just regular escapism?
  • January 17, 2010
    The Auditor
    The fan suffers mentally from knowing that something they want to be part of can never happen. So I suppose they are different from Daydream Believer because they know it is all just make-believe but they are tortured by the very fact that it is.

    I'm open to new title recommendations but I do enjoy the cryptic nature of some Trope names, so I'll seek a consensus.
  • January 17, 2010
    Reg Shoe
    Hmm. While the title is OK I expect to get some people get confused with the ancient greek myth. I do recall more than a few people wishing that the real world was fake and Zion was real when The Matrix films came out.
  • January 17, 2010
    JackButler
    Would this be along the lines of the guy who called Spider Robinson up one night because he really, really needed the address to Callahan's Saloon, and when he was told that it was imaginary threatened to kill himself?
  • January 17, 2010
    Amazingly Enough
    Well the Greek figure is the most recognizeable use of the name Pandora. I was puzzled over the name until I read your Avatar example, as I haven't seen the movie.

    Harry Potter is prone to this. Many a child (and adult) has read the books and wished fervently that they could get that letter to Hogwarts.
  • January 17, 2010
    Bisected8
  • January 17, 2010
    MatthewTheRaven
  • January 17, 2010
    The Auditor
    I see what you mean: the double reference makes the title confusing. OK, the title is up for grabs!
  • January 18, 2010
    Michael
    If we're going for in-universe examples too, Bob The Angry Flower resorts to extreme science in an attempt to become ... umm ... a powerpuff girl.
  • September 7, 2010
    Unknown Troper
  • September 7, 2010
    Unknown Troper
  • September 7, 2010
    Unknown Troper
  • September 7, 2010
    Unknown Troper
  • September 7, 2010
    masterchief
    I Am the unknown troper above ,I am ver interested on this trope , tell me if you need something :)
  • September 8, 2010
    Bailey
    Pining For The Shire?

    Dreams of Tantalus is a lovely turn of phrase, but somewhat general if this is about fictional settings.
  • September 8, 2010
    Arivne
    Literature
    • This also happened with the original Lord Of The Rings novels. As Peter S. Beagle put it in his introduction to the Ballantine edition:
    Lovers of Middle-Earth want to go there. I would myself, like a shot.
  • September 10, 2010
    masterchief
    is this trope Up For Grabs ?
  • September 11, 2010
    Stratadrake
    No it is not. No Launching Please specifically means no Up For Grabs.
  • September 11, 2010
    randomsurfer
    But is The Auditor still around? S/he hasn't made any edits in a while.
  • September 11, 2010
    Starry-Eyed
    The Chronicles Of Narnia, big time, both the books and the movies. If I had a penny for every time I wished my closet door would open up to Narnia as a child, let's just say college tuition wouldn't be an issue.
  • September 11, 2010
    Arutema
    Is "Longing For Fictionland" SPOONY enough for a title?
  • September 11, 2010
    ArtFever
    Narnia is even an in-universe example.
  • September 11, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    Don Quixote is an in-story example. Don Alonso Quijano is so in love with stories of Knights In Shining Armor that he starts believing he's one himself.
  • September 11, 2010
    randomsurfer
    There's a book I read (which I first heard of on This Very Wiki) that's kind of a cross between Harry Potter and Narnia - a boy goes to a wizarding school, and eventualy after graduation goes to a Narnia-like place that he and his fellow schoolmates had read when they were younger as a fictional children's adventure story, and wished was real even though [[Arbitrary Skepticism everyone knew it was only a story]]. Don't remember the name of the book now though.
  • September 11, 2010
    Irrisia
    Some Other-kin and Otaku-kin would probably fit under this trope, if they're not Daydream Believer s. Otherkin believe they're the reincarnations of mythical animals; Otaku-kin believe they're the reincarnations/parallel incarnations/something of anime or game characters

    There's also the people who believe they are married to fictional characters on the Astral Plane; Sephiroth apparently has at least one wife living in this world, as does Snape.
  • October 11, 2010
    mystichogan
    Launch It Already (if this trope isnt claimed in 2 days I claim it
  • October 11, 2010
    Idler2.0
    Related to I Want My Jetpack.
  • October 11, 2010
    callsignecho
    I hate to derail a good YKTTW, but Daydream Believer explicitly covers a fan who knows that a work isn't real, but thinks it would be really, really great if it were.
  • October 12, 2010
    TheLegendarySuperSaiyan
    `^Dude are you alive?
  • October 12, 2010
    Stratadrake
    Daydream Believer would make a nice name bt it's not quite the trope in question -- it's when fans start believing that the fictional world actually is real, rather than becoming depressed that it isn't.

    I'm also not sure naming it after Avatar is such a good move. Being one of the two people left on Earth who hasn't actually seen it, "Pandora" is also widely known as the girl who opened The Box -- and by association the box itself, which is in fact a Bad thing.
  • October 12, 2010
    callsignecho
    Oh, sorry. I meant I Wish It Were Real.
  • October 12, 2010
    Stratadrake
    Hmm, but that's not related either.
  • October 12, 2010
    berr
    Hmm, that's interesting. It means the sentence on the trope page for Daydream Believer differentiating it from I Wish It Were Real, which dates back at least a year, actually refers to this trope, or else this trope describes what that I Wish It Were Real used to mean. Certainly, I Wish It Were Real would be a better name for this trope, would it not?

    Specific subtrope of Daydream Believer, already referenced (as I Wish It Were Real) in the trope categorization (since apparently a lot of folks thought it meant that, and frankly the name I Wish It Were Real implies this.)
  • October 12, 2010
    berr
    @callsignecho -- actually, only the "soft" form of Daydream Believer intellectually knows it's probably not real, and only if they try to rationalize it (think of all the otherwise highly educated people who engage in cryptozoology). The "pure" form of Daydream Believer (Otherkin, etc) literally believes part or all of the setting is true. And as mentioned there's a sentence in the trope description explicitly identifying this as a subtrope, (mis)titled I Wish It Were Real which really is a good title for this trope anyhow. So apparently the current trope titled I Wish It Were Real has a really confusing title since I thought it meant this, too. Longing For X is a good title too, though. Longing For Middle Earth could be a redirect.
  • October 12, 2010
    berr
    Oh wow, this ykttw is very old.
  • October 12, 2010
    berr
    So, should we launch this as Longing For Pandora with the caveat "Sister trope of Daydream Believer, where the audience actually believes in their heart of hearts that some part of the story is real. Not to be confused with I Wish It Were Real, which is the fictional version of this trope." ?
  • October 12, 2010
    arromdee
    I think this trope is dangerous because it's likely to turn into fandom bashing.
  • October 12, 2010
    berr
    Hmm, y'right, I wasn't thinking about the examples part... It's a real trope but very subjective in the sense that it's an Audience Reaction Trope where you can't really put examples. Can it be launched without examples as an Audience Reaction Trope? I think that the Avatar and LOTR examples are uncontroversial enough to be illustrative, but I'm not too sure the Twilight example even belongs, and if it did, it'd be Snark Bait. What does having a crush on the actor have to do with this trope?
  • October 16, 2010
    Korodzik
    There should be a link to Awesomeness Withdrawal.
  • October 17, 2010
    berr
    I kind of think I Wish It Were Real should be the real life version (this trope) and "Longing For..." should be the name of the fictional Trapped In TV Land version.
  • October 18, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    People on FandomSecrets are often known to submit secrets that they have always wanted to join the members of XYZ continuity in whatever they're doing, knowing full well that a) they're fictional and b) the anonymous people in question are "too old to believe in such things". (Also, Just Launch It Already - it's been quite a while and the creator of the YKTTW hasn't been seen recently?)
  • October 29, 2010
    Gau
    Just Launch It Already. I suggest suitable scenery porn from Lord of the Rings as an image.
  • October 29, 2010
    Hero777
    ^I will :). I will look for that picture too
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