Created By: neoYTPism on April 7, 2011 Last Edited By: neoYTPism on January 29, 2013
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She's Just A Woman

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Vidal: You can leave, Garcez.
Garcez: You sure, captain?
Vidal: For god's sake, she's just a woman.
Mercedes: That's what you always thought. That's why I was able to get away with it. I was invisible to you.
- From Pan's Labyrinth (Said when Vidal was planning on torturing Mercedes. Afterwards, she broke free and managed to take the knife to him.)

M. Bison: I know women, and you are harmless.
Chun-Li: That's exactly what I wanted you to think.
- From the Street Fighter movie. Chun-Li proceeds to inflict a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on Bison.

Do We Have This One?... oh and I am open to title suggestions.

This is a form of Tempting Fate that is basically a hybrid of sexism and overconfidence; one dismisses the potential threat posed by a female just because she is female. Often times, the woman being reacted to dismissively turns out to be an Action Girl.

In some cases she will exploit this. Sometimes this is justified; by its very nature this form of Tempting Fate will tend to be done by Politically Incorrect Villains, though a well-intentioned character who simply underestimates female abilities might do this as well, in which case it becomes more of a grey area.

Either way, it does tend towards overconfident characters.
Community Feedback Replies: 21
  • April 7, 2011
    MC42
    Parley: Here, why don't you an' Jones spar? You know, to show Carver!
    Eglamore: Ah come on. That wouldn't be fair.
    Antimony: Because she is a woman?
    Eglamore: Haha! No, because indoors, and at close range, Jones would flatten me.
    Antimony: Oh.
  • April 7, 2011
    peccantis
    Staple of the You Go Girl variety of Pony Tale. As a matter of fact, the basis of the whole You Go Girl trope.
  • April 7, 2011
    MC42
    There are a lot of examples in the Just A Kid page, since it also deals with "Just A Girl" variants.
  • April 7, 2011
    peccantis
    Name Just A Woman to go with Just A Kid and to get rid of the pesky punctuation?
  • April 7, 2011
    neoYTPism
    It is quite unlike Just A Kid though, and not JUST because it deals with gender instead of age. That trope just involves people underestimating the potential of a kid. This is much more specifically about underestimating the potential threat of a female enemy.

    I suppose it could be broadened, though, but for now I am looking for examples of the narrowed-down version.
  • April 7, 2011
    MorganWick
    I would prefer Just A Girl for the broadened version.
  • April 7, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ... even then, really, Just A Woman would be better as it emphasizes that this is about gender and NOT about age. (Just A Girl might vaguely imply it is referring to both gender and age at the same time; ie. just young AND female)
  • April 8, 2011
    Arivne
    Edit: Examples deleted because they don't have a "misinterpreted by a Smug Snake enemy who assumed her to never be a threat".
  • April 10, 2011
    StarryEyed
  • April 11, 2011
    LarryD
    • Sokka made this mistake when the Aang Gang got to Kyoshi Island. He gets his first Badass level upgrade when he overcomes it enough to take combat lessons from Suki.
  • April 11, 2011
    randomsurfer
    Invoked in The Silence Of The Lambs (the novel at least) by Crawford to get a coroner to give him some info that the coroner wouldn't give Starling.
  • April 12, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^^ Was Suki an enemy prior to that?
  • April 12, 2011
    peccantis
    ^ Technically yes, but they got over it very quickly.
  • April 12, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^ But does "he underestimates her threat to him" apply to your example? It was somewhat vaguely worded, at least to those of us not familiar with the show you're referring to.
  • April 12, 2011
    StarryEyed
    ^ Yes, definitely yes.
  • April 12, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^ Got it.

    I just want to make sure the examples fit within the specific framework. Generic "dismissive of women for being woman" examples, without the "misinterpreted by a Smug Snake enemy who assumed her to never be a threat" part, don't fit.
  • April 14, 2011
    Antigone3
    Possible appearance in "The Sleeping Beauty" (part of Mercedes Lackey's 500 Kingdoms series). Prince Desmond dismisses Godmother Lily as "just a woman". Lily doesn't face him directly, though she does make it possible for the heroes to get through the enchanted thorn hedge.
  • April 14, 2011
    Generality
    In The Mummy, the Egyptologist reacts this way to Evey's insistence that he and the Americans with him tread lightly around cursed artifacts. "She's only a woman. What does a woman know?"
  • April 16, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Is it about underestimating the threat posed by a female enemy? @ Generality
  • April 16, 2011
    KTera
    If I remember correctly, Sokka wanders into the Kiyoshi warriors' dojo and apologies for interrupting their "dance lesson", generally mocks their fighting style and uniforms, and only realizes he's underestimated them when Suki beats him up.
  • January 29, 2013
    Catbert
    Stock Phrase. Discarding.
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