Created By: Belfagor on December 29, 2011 Last Edited By: Belfagor on March 20, 2012

Generational Worldview Gap

The new generation's morality clashes with the old one.

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Do We Have This One?? Maybe Needs a Better Title.

This trope applies when there is conflict between the conception of the world by two successive generations. Basically, when the Weltanschauung of the old generation is opposite to the new one\'s and the constrast is carried out.

Please notice that this trope doesn\'t automatically imply that one generation is \"evil\" and the other one is \"good\": blue parents and orange children can find place here too, as well as grey and gray ones.

Expect Calling the Old Man Out to show up. Could overlap with Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter. See also Face–Heel Turn or Heel–Face Turn. If the parents take it really bad, it could lead to Offing the Offspring. Not always this trope is unintentional, as it could be the result of Evil Parents Want Good Kids. When the evil new generation tries to destroy the good old one, we have a case of Antagonistic Offspring. Vice versa, we have an Archnemesis Dad. May lead to Dating What Daddy Hates.

Real Life examples can be added, however only when not dealing with Good Versus Evil, to avoid Edit War and Flame War.

\'\'\'Please, No Natter.\'\'\'

Examples

Comic Books
  • \'\'X-Men\'\': Nightcrawler is a devoted, charming, adorkable Nice Guy. His father Azazel is basically the mutant equivalent of Satan, and his mother Mystique is as bad.
  • The good Black Knight from \'\'The Avengers\'\' is the nephew of the original, evil Black Knight.
  • In \'\'Kingdom Come\'\', all children of the idealistic Silver Age superheroes turn into Dark Age Anti Heroes (at best), apparently.

Film

Literature
  • In the \'\'Harry Potter\'\' series, Sirius Black is the opposite of his Dark Side-loving, purity-obsessed family, the only one not to be a member of Slytherin House, and with completely different values from the rest of his kin. His bedroom shows that he was similarly reactionary throughout his adolescence, choosing posters and decorations that would be sure to offend his parents. Contrast his little brother, Regulus, who wholly loved the Dark Side until he found out what they were really like.
  • The contrast between Kelson Haldane and his mother in the \'\'Deryni\'\' works is like this for a long time. Jehana truly believes the powers are evil, doesn\'t use hers for years, and feels guilty if she does when pressed by circumstances. She\'s also rude to the point of hostility towards some Deryni (notably Morgan, his wife Richenda, and Rothana). Kelson believes it\'s the use to which the powers are put (not the powers themselves) which can be good or evil, and he works toward making it easier for mages to use their powers openly. As you might expect, they argue about this. Often.
    • Come to think of it, the Deryni works also have this between Prince Nigel Haldane and his eldest son Conall. Most notably, Nigel is loyal to his king and Conall isn\'t. Their conflict eventually becomes very overt.

Live-Action TV
  • \'\'Criminal Minds\'\': Aaron Hotchner has grown up to catch killers also because his father abused him, and Ashley Seaver\'s father was a Serial Killer.
    • On he other hand, the unsub in \"A Shade of Gray\" is a 10 years old sociopath with Good Parents.

Music
  • Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are A-Changin'":

Mythology and Religion
  • The Bible has Absalom rebelling (and later declaring war) against David after the latter did nothing to persecute the man who had assaulted Tamar, Absalom's sister, while the former had asked for retailation.

Theater
  • This is a big theme in the play \'\'An Inspector Calls\'\', which pits the morality of the next generation against their predecessors. Everyone is at fault though.

Video Games
  • \'\'The House of the Dead 3\'\': Daniel Curien, son of Roy Curien, helps the protagonists. You also play it (instead of G, who helps Rogan leaving the building) in the last chapter, against a boss engineered from Curien\'s DNA.
  • Played with in \'\'Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3\'\' with the Empire of the Rising Sun. The Emperor and his son, Prince Tatsu, disagree on how best to conduct the war, with the Emperor favoring a \"traditional\" approach of sapping the enemy\'s will to fight by destroying symbolic targets, while Prince Tatsu favors more \"modern\" attacks against military targets. While they have heated arguments during the cutscenes, neither turns on the other, and both ultimately come to see the value in the other\'s viewpoint.

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Community Feedback Replies: 23
  • December 29, 2011
    randomsurfer
    • The good Black Knight from The Avengers is the nephew of the original, evil Black Knight.
  • December 30, 2011
    MorganWick
    I think we already have this for the child of evil parents (not just Evil Parents Want Good Kids).
  • December 30, 2011
    MorganWick
    I think we already have this for the version with the child of evil parents (not just Evil Parents Want Good Kids).

    Also, if this comment isn't second, the comment immediately above may be the result of the first time I submitted this getting caught up in the shared-ID bug.
  • December 30, 2011
    Damr1990
    • The Rivera Familly in El Tigre, each member has either been a super hero or a supervillian on alternating order
  • February 3, 2012
    Koveras
    In Kingdom Come, all children of the idealistic Silver Age superheroes turn into Dark Age Anti Heroes (at best), apparently.
  • February 12, 2012
    TBeholder
  • February 15, 2012
    Jackalyn
    Girl Genius: This happened with the Heterodyne Boys. To a lesser extent this is happening with the three main characters.
  • February 15, 2012
    jbrecken
    To a lesser degree this was the premise of the sitcom "Family Ties." Left-wing parents had right-wing kids.
  • February 15, 2012
    69BookWorM69
    The contrast between Kelson Haldane and his mother in the Deryni works is like this for a long time. Jehana truly believes the powers are evil, doesn't use hers for years, and feels guilty if she does when pressed by circumstances. She's also rude to the point of hostility towards some Deryni (notably Morgan, his wife Richenda, and Rothana). Kelson believes it's the use to which the powers are put (not the powers themselves) which can be good or evil, and he works toward making it easier for mages to use their powers openly. As you might expect, they argue about this. Often.
  • February 15, 2012
    randomsurfer
    ^^Only Alex was explicitly right-wing. Mallory was a ditzy teen and Jennifer was fairly liberal, if not as far left as her parents.
  • February 16, 2012
    Lavalyte
    Morality Skips A Generation?

    see also Generation Gap
  • February 20, 2012
    MorganWick
    Reading this now, for some reason when I saw the title I thought it was about the children of a hero/villain pair also becoming a hero/villain pair, but from opposite parents. Parent Versus Child?
  • February 27, 2012
    69BookWorM69
    Come to think of it, the Deryni works also have this between Prince Nigel Haldane and his eldest son Conall. Most notably, Nigel is loyal to his king and Conall isn't. Their conflict eventually becomes very overt.
  • March 2, 2012
    HeartOfAnAstronaut
    This is a big theme in the play An Inspector Calls, which pits the morality of the next generation against their predecessors. Everyone is at fault though.
  • March 4, 2012
    randomsurfer
    Possibly a supertrope to Dating What Daddy Hates?
  • March 5, 2012
    69BookWorM69
    ^or a prerequisite thereof.
  • March 9, 2012
    Generality
    In the Harry Potter series, Sirius Black is the opposite of his Dark Side-loving, purity-obsessed family, the only one not to be a member of Slytherin House, and with completely different values from the rest of his kin. His bedroom shows that he was similarly reactionary throughout his adolescence, choosing posters and decorations that would be sure to offend his parents. Contrast his little brother, Regulus, who wholly loved the Dark Side until he found out what they were really like.
  • March 9, 2012
    Kossmeister
  • March 12, 2012
    GuyIncog
    Video Games:
    • Played with (Averted/Subverted?) in Command And Conquer Red Alert 3 with the Empire of the Rising Sun. The Emperor and his son, Prince Tatsu, disagree on how best to conduct the war, with the Emperor favoring a "traditional" approach of sapping the enemy's will to fight by destroying symbolic targets, while Prince Tatsu favors more "modern" attacks against military targets. While they have heated arguments during the cutscenes, neither turns on the other, and both ultimately come to see the value in the other's viewpoint.
  • March 12, 2012
    AnEditor
    But Titans vs Olympians was not a morality clash, was it? They were just both equally power hungry.
  • March 13, 2012
    MorganWick
    ^Could the trope be broadened to include that, though? We might even be able to include real life examples if that were the case.
  • March 13, 2012
    Belfagor
    ^ Okay for the broadening, but only if there is no Good Versus Evil in the Real Life section.

  • March 13, 2012
    TBeholder
    ^^ this would blur it into meaninglessness. Making another is always an option.

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