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Satanic Archetype
No, he's not Satan. He's this universe's best comparison.
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So we all know how the Messianic Archetype is an in-universe character who can readily be compared to Jesus, although they clearly aren't the man himself.

Now, let's take that trope to the Dark Side. A truly evil character who seems to be a satanic figure for the setting, although they clearly aren't the Devil himself.

A Satanic Archetype character can be any combination of the following:

Chances are, if a work is using Everybody Hates Hades, then Hades as well as another being or creature associated with death will be depiced as an Satanic Archetype.

Compare The Anti-God. Will frequently overlap with the Louis Cypher.

Examples of this trope in all media:


[[folder: Anime and Manga]]

  • Father, the Big Bad of Fullmetal Alchemist is a creature who seeks to usurp The Truth, which identifies itself as God, and temps humans to evil to achieve his ends. Father is assisted by his "children", who are named after the Seven Deadly Sins. Interestingly, Father is introduced looking like a Grandpa God, bathed in light, although his true form is some variety of Humanoid Abomination made of shadow.
  • The five members of the Godhand from Berserk are very much satanic archetypes. Not only do they rule over all demonkind, but they also make deals with mortals to become demons themselves by sacrificing those closest to them. Void, the de facto leader of the Godhand who marks people for sacrifice; and Femto, the newest member who has committed some of the nastiest evil acts of any of the five so far and is even blood-red in the first anime, particularly stand out.


[[folder:Comic Books]]

  • In the Marvel Comics, the Hell Lords is a group of demons composed of Asmodeus, Hela, Mephisto, Pluto, Satannish The Supreme, and Satana. Former members of the group included Beelzeboul, Dormammu, Hellstrom, Lucifer/Satan, Marduk Kurios, Olivier, Thog the Nether-Spawn, and Umar the Unrelenting. Yes. Satan himself used to be a member of a group of demons who represent all the aspects of Satan. Somehow.



  • If Melkor/Morgoth was any more obviously the devil of Middle-Earth, he'd have an elven Louis Cypher name.
  • The Dark One in the Wheel of Time series is presented similarly to Satan. The usual comforting mantra is that he was imprisoned by the Creator at the beginning of time. Where he came from isn't clear, but he remained safely sealed in his Can until the Aes Sedai in the Age of Legends accidentally (?) cracked his prison. He offered them a Power that both men and women could use together (unlike their own magic), and several made deals with him. Too bad he wants to destroy the universe and end time. Oh, and he's indestructible. From inside his Can, he tries to destroy humanity using hoards of subhuman monsters, not to mention said quisling Aes Sedai. (What they think they'll ultimately get out of universal destruction is anyone's guess.)
  • In the Chalion series, the Bastard is sort of the Satan equivalent, being the offspring of the Mother and a powerful demon lord that did a Heel-Face Turn. He's the ruler of demons and god of the unexpected, including disasters; but his job is to rein in demons so they don't harm humans and he's also the god of unexpected blessings. He has a very vulgar sense of humor and is a Trickster Mentor to his followers but is basically benevolent; although he's also the one that meets out vengeance upon Complete Monsters and Karma Houdinis.
  • In the Narnia series, both the White Witch at the beginning of the series and the Calormene deity Tash are represented as evil opposites of Aslan, who is basically Lion!Jesus. Tash is also sort of a Crystal Dragon Allah... combined with Satan.


[[folder:Tabletop Games]]




[[folder:Video Games]]

  • In Ashan, the setting for some of the Heroes of Might and Magic games, Urgash the Dragon God of Chaos meets the 'God of Evil' and 'rebelled against god' criteria; he warred against Asha, the Goddess of Order, during the Mythic Age when the world was relatively young, and was imprisoned in Sheogh, the setting's equivalent of Hell, after his defeat. Kha-Beleth the Demon Sovereign, Supreme Ruler of Sheogh and leader of the demons that Urgash created to serve as his minions, meets the 'ruler of demons' and 'prominent antagonist' criteria.
  • Ninja Gaiden:
    • Vigoor is the ruling devil and absolute authority of a "holy" empire of evli deities. Then it turns out via the second game that he's not the only "Supreme Archfiend".
    • Though the only other Supreme Archfiend is actually just the son of Vigoor. Or rather, the remains of his body after being defeated. So it's sorta the same being, but weaker.
  • Mundus from Devil May Cry, who was originally intended to be named Satan. He comes in white and looks somewhat like an angel (that is, until Dante messes him up but good, revealing the Eldritch Abomination within). He's not quite omnipotent, though, but it does seem thus far that he cannot be permanently killed, even with the power of Sparda, so Dante eventually has to seal him away like his father did long ago.
  • In God of War, Hades definitely has a certain, er, hell-ish thing going on. The god and the location.
  • Death Smiles:
    • The writers decided that plain old Satan was too boring, so the final boss and head of the demonic invasion triggered by Jitterbug is Demonic Imperator Tyrannosatan.
    • And the sequel has as its final boss a bizarre mash-up of demon and Santa Claus called... "Satan Claws".
  • Tekken has the Devil Gene, which allows most of the Mishima family (Besides Heihachi) to turn into a Devil, and the Devil Forms of Kazuya, Jin, and Jinpachi are usually considered the strongest combatants in the game as far as story goes.[[note]]This was passed over to them through at least one (Kazuya) Faustian deal with an evil winged Manipulative Bastard called…Devil.[[/note]]
  • Mortal Kombat has the Elder God Shinnok, who attempted to overthrow the other Elder Gods but was defeated and banished to the Netherrealm(which happens to be a fiery wasteland where evil beings hang around, blatantly Hell). At some point he overthrew the Netherrealm's ruler Lucifer with the aid of Quan-Chi, placing himself as the Netherrealm's ruler.
  • Mephiles the Dark from Sonic the Hedgehog is essentially the Devil, especially when he fuses with Iblis and becomes Solaris. In fact, both Mephiles (whose name is a play on Mephistopheles) and Iblis (Name's the Same as the Muslim devil) represent two sides of the devil: the supreme manipulator and the destroyer.

    When they first fuse back into Solaris, the initial result is a creature form with 6 stones on his back, 6 claws, and 6 horn segments on his head.
  • Pokémon
    • While Arceus is the equivalent of God, Primal Dialga , the (fake) Big Bad of the second Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game (who looks like an evil Dialga with a black body and red stripes instead of a blue body and green stripes) may actually be the series' equivalent of the Devil. Giratina and Darkrai are popular candidates for the title as well, though they are both not outright evil. Occasionally played straight with the latter however.
    • Giratina definitely fits the role of Satan on a cosmic level: it's a literal god/Eldritch Abomination that was banished for its aggressive tendencies(in particular, its obsession with balance) by what is implied to be the aformentioned Arceus. While not evil(it prevents Cyrus from achieving An Arceus Am I), it's a fearesome opponent that has the potential of threatning the world.
  • Bayonetta:
    • Queen Sheba is the ruler of Inferno, the realm of demons that Bayonetta often taps into for her most stylish finishers. In fact, Bayonetta summons Sheba herself in order to finish off the Creator God Jubileus by punching her all the way throught the solar system and into the sun.
    • Rodin himself also counts all of the character art for Rodin in the unlockable extras never uses that name, giving his name as "Mephisto", the name of a German folklore demon most prominently mentioned in the Faust legend and occasionally has been used as another name for the Devil himself. Appropriately, Rodin's role is broadly similar to the traditional devil: a fallen angel who is thwarted and punished from trying to conquer Heaven (and is feared by it) who rules his own "sub-basement" location after his punishment, and jokes about the "deals" he provides Bayonetta.
  • In Graffiti Kingdom, the devil is a horned, purple guy-looking-thing named Medium. When freed from his imprisonment, he takes over Canvas Kingdom and plans to rule the world. His son Tablet overthrows him and becomes the new devil, so "devil" is probably just a title for "ruler of demons" rather than an actual entity.
  • Hazama/Terumi Yuuki from BlazBlue may also count as a Satan Expy. One of the revered Six Heroes, he betrayed his team and after being sealed, resurfaced once more to topple Heaven and God and shape the world as he sees fit: Make what he believed to be truth, which is DESPAIR, as the only truth in the world, and the lies of the world (which is everything) to be cut down. And he... succeeded in toppling 'God' (Takamagahara) by Continuum Shift, though only time will tell if the upcoming sequel will have him fall spectacularly. And not only he's Obviously Evil, he walks around with Eyes Always Shut, speak like a gentleman in order to lull his unaware 'allies' to move like he wills it, and if his acts with Litchi was to be believed, one of his modus operandi is driving people to sign on a Deal with the Devil…the devil in question is HIMSELF. And although his true name 'Terumi' is safe, the nickname 'Hazama' gives the meaning of 'otherworldly'... and all in all, very similar with how Lucifer meant 'Lightbringer' before he went on to be known as Satan or all those nasty other names.
  • Molag Bal, the Daedric Prince of Corruption in The Elder Scrolls series. While most of the Daedric Princes are Jerkass Gods but with some redeeming features, Molag has never portrayed as anything other than evil, and seems to exist for no other purpose than to tempt mortals into wickedness so he can claim their souls... or sometimes, purely for his own amusement.
  • Warcraft series:
    • Sargeras was once a divine Titan tasked with battling the demon hordes and protecting the universe while the rest of the Titan pantheon created more planets. Exposure to the demons and their home dimension eventually drove Sargeras batshit insane, so he joined the demon hordes as their evil overlord. He led the Burning Crusade to invade many worlds and enslave/assimilate/demonize many species, before he was finally blown up on Azeroth. His blood and other leftover bits can give mortals great power, at the cost of sanity (and potentially turning into a demon).
    • The Eredar Kil'Jaeden also acts as a Satan analogue, being a Big Red Devil who introduced warlock magic to the orcs and aiding Gul'dan, as well as having Illidan attempt to dispose of the Lich King. He's even called the The Deceiver.
    • Deathwing the Destroyer is in some ways Crystal Dragon Satan. He was one of the five godlike Dragon Aspects made by the Titans to watch over the planet (or the son of an Aspect, Depending on the Writer). The Old Gods drove him insane, so he started attacking other dragons and ordinary mortals. He became a sort of evil overlord for an entire race of evil dragons and their minions.


[[folder:Western Animation]]

  • Chernabog in Fantasia is portrayed as a giant black demon with horns and bat wings. Walt Disney even described him as being Satan himself. The god was based on a lesser-known Slavic god, which may be an example of Everybody Hates Hades.
  • Hunson Abadeer, ruler of the Nightosphere from Adventure Time.
  • Futurama has an in-universe example in the form of the Robot Devil. There's also Robot Santa who terrorises humanity every Christmas and is, to quote one frightened bystander, "The father of all lies and the uncle of all tricks!".


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