Created By: XanderVJ on July 24, 2014 Last Edited By: acrobox on July 30, 2014
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Blue Is Heroic

Blue is the ( [[RedIsHeroic other]] ) color of heroes

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While a lot of heroes tend to use red as their primary or differentiating color, there is another color that is used arguably just as often. And that color is blue.

While red is usually used to convey a hero of active action and energizing leadership (usually out of its association with fire), blue on the other hand usually conveys one that is more down to earth, cool-headed and may use his wits and intelligence to lead others (usually out of its association with water).

Where red gets associated with heroes because it's passionate and intense, blue gets associated with heroes because it's trustworthy and resolute.

Blue, especially the lighter-to-medium tones or combined with white, is often associated with calmness, kindness of heart and connection with the heavens, making it one of, if not the most common color to convey good. Thus, when the hero and the villain are color-coded to differentiate them from one another, the hero usually gets blue in some form (ironically enough, villains get red instead).

Another common way of invoking this trope is by, rather than applying the color to the costume, doing it in other iconic features, like Frickin' Laser Beams, Battle Aura, Laser Blade, Sword Lines, Sword Beam, and other forms of Power Glows. This is particularly common in anime, where color coding using the costumes is not used that often. Sometimes, also portraying the hero in an Unnaturally Blue Lighting has a similar effect.

In Video Games that involve some kind of team work (either with other human players, NPCs or controlling all the units directly), blue is also usually the to-go color to indicate the party controlled by the player, in contrast with red for enemies and green/yellow for allies. Specially if said party is supposed to be a heroic one.

May overlap with You Gotta Have Blue Hair in Japanese media, Blue Boy Pink Girl for contrasting a male hero with his Love Interest, and True Blue Femininity in heroines.

A Sub-Trope of Good Colors, Evil Colors.

A when Blue Is Heroic and Red Is Heroic are both applied to the same character you get a Primary-Color Champion.

A Sister Trope to Water Is Blue, Heavenly Blue and Red Is Heroic.

Compare Innocent Blue Eyes, Red Oni, Blue Oni, Heroes Prefer Swords, Color-Coded Characters, Purple Is Powerful and Law of Chromatic Superiority.

Contrast Creepy Blue Eyes, Occult Blue Eyes and Blue with Shock.

Examples

Anime and Manga:
  • Most of the heroes from the Dragon Ball franchise usually portray their Ki Manipulation with this color (Although occasionally some studios have used yellow instead). The most iconic examples, the legendary Kame Hame Ha wave, which is always this color, as well as the Spirit Bomb.
  • Kenshin Himura is usually portrayed in an Unnaturally Blue Lighting when he's executing his techniques, while his opponents do in different colors.
  • Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach zigzags between this and Red Is Heroic. His spirit pressure in his normal Shinigami stage has a light blue color, as well as his Getsuga Tenshou technique. When he activates his Bankai, however, it turns black and red. However, when he activates his Final Getsuga Tenshou, it turns black and blue.
  • Played with in Naruto with Sasuke Uchiha. Before the Time Skip, he was usually associated with blue due to his costume. However, after his Face–Heel Turn, he drops that color almost completely. Even when he gets his most powerful attacks, his Chakra turns purple..
  • Seiya from Saint Seiya, whose Cosmos and attacks all glow in this color. The Pegasus armor usually gets a blue hue as well, which is specially prominent in the manga. The anime tends to go for a Primary-Color Champion by mixing with some red clothes under the armor and some yellow ornaments.
  • Death Note has L as a Hero Antagonist version of this trope. L is usually associated with the blue color, while Light Yagami is associated with red (Usually by portraying them with unnatural lighting of said colors).
  • Saber, from the Fate/stay night franchise. She wears a blue Battle Ballgown. The Visual Novel also usually depict her attacks with blue Sword Lines (as seen in the trope image). The ufotable anime adaptation of Fate/Zero, as well as the upcoming remake of the original Stay Night, also feature that. (The exception would be the Excalibur attack, which power is symbolized by a golden light.)
  • Shinji Ikari, the main protagonist from Neon Genesis Evangelion, whose pilot suit is blue in contrast with the other pilots (white for Rei, red for Asuka, black for Kaworu and pink for Mari).
  • Simon, main character of Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, whose clothes are prominently blue. Including his hair and his eyes for good measure.

Comic Books:
  • As part of his Primary-Color Champion status, Superman's suit is prominently blue. Specially after the New52, where he dropped the red underwear. Although the big red cape is just as prominent, the blue suit conveys more Superman's gentle and kind nature.
  • Captain America. Albeit his costume is supposed to represent the American flag, blue is by far the most prominent color. This helps to drive home his straight leadership in The Avengers.
  • The Fantastic Four. Full stop. All four of them wear iconic blue skin-tight jump suits.
  • Nightwing's traditional costume uses a prominent blue trim, symbolizing his more level-headed attitude in comparison to Batman.
  • Cyclops, the team leader of the X-Men, is usually depicted in a blue spandex in more modern versions. Another iconic example in the same series would be the Beast, with his blue fur, which matches his intelligence and kind nature.
  • Batman sometimes has a blue batsuit (especially the cape and cowl) in some iterations. He tends to be more... stable, when he's depicted in that one (albeit not always).
  • Dr. Manhattan, from Watchmen, is a pretty unique tragic, borderline Anti-Hero example.
  • Miracleman, AKA Marvelman. Partly because he was originally a Captain Ersatz of superhero Captain Marvel, and by extension, an Expy of Superman.
  • Despite his name, Black Lightning's costume sports a dark blue costume with prominent bright blue trims.
  • A-Bomb, Rick Jones's mutated form, resembles the Hulk villain Abomination with the exception of being colored blue. Though he resembles the Abomination, A-Bomb is more heroic than his green colored villainous counterpart and is an ally of Hulk.

Film - Live Action:
  • Probably the most iconic example in the medium is the blue lightsaber from the Star Wars series, usually associated with the Jedi, in contrast with red lightsabers for the Sith. With the exception of Return of the Jedi, when green was used instead due to technical difficultiesnote , the main heroes have always used a blue one more often than not.
    • Played with in the prequel trilogy with the the laser beams from the Clone army, and during the Anakin Vs Obi-Wan duel. Considering how blue is used prominently as the color of good in this series, this helps to establish the morally messed-up situation of the Clone Wars. Especially in the duel.
  • The Noble Savage Humanoid Aliens Na'vi from Avatar are blue skinned cat people. Just in case their role as paragons of good wasn't blunt enough.
  • The Master of Disguise subverts this, as it's actually the villainous Devlin Bowman whose surroundings are often lit with blue lighting, and he wears blue shirts under his white suits. Word of God was that this was a stylistic choice to have seens with Bowman feel cold and menacing (as opposed to the Disguiseys' world which had lots of warmer colors like red and gold).

Film - Animation:

  • Played with in Wreckit Ralph. Fix-it Felix Jr., the Adorkable Nice Guy is dressed all in blue, in opposition to Ralph's red. In the "Fix-It Felix" game, they're The Hero and the Big Bad respectively. However, the story of the movie itself is about Ralph trying to move away from his role as a villain and trying to become a hero of his own. Felix, on the other hand, moves to a Lancer role, but without loosing any of his heroic traits.

Literature:

LiveActionTV:
  • Batman, in his TV series days, was definitely on the bluer end of grey. Not in vain, this is one of the... happier... versions of the character.

Mythology
  • The heroic god Vishnu and his avatars from Hindu Mythology are blue skinned.

VideoGames:
  • Sonic the Hedgehog, arguably the poster child of this trope in the medium. His blueness represents freedom and clear blue skies, as well as his generally easygoing nature. This is put in contrast with Eggman's redness as well as Knuckles' intense red and Shadow's red accents.
  • Mega Man being a damn close second. He is also known as the "Blue Bomber" because of the color of his body, i.e mostly blue. Same goes through his other incarnations in the Sequel Series. Notably, they always tend to be innocent or noble-minded in contrast to other characters, although it never stops them from getting stronger.
    • Downplayed in Mega Man Star Force, where Omega-Xis (the Mega Man incarnation of said series) had more selfish motives, at least at first, and he seems to be quite a brash Blood Knight.
    • Subverted in Mega Man Zero: The hero Zero is red, and the Big Bad Copy X is blue (and the antithesis of real X in almost every way).
  • Solid Snake from the Metal Gear series. His sneaking suits are usually dark greyish-blue, specially in Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.
  • The Alliance campaign of Warcraft III gives you blue-armored units (unlike Warcraft II and Starcraft, there are no faction-specific colors).
  • Raynor's Raiders in the Starcraft games are blue-armored (in the first one, you sometimes play as the red Sons of Korhal, but go back to blue once you leave them after their Face–Heel Turn).
  • The Fire Emblem series. With a couple of exceptions, the main protagonist is always depicted with a distinguishable blue hair, with blue clothes to boot.
  • The main hero from Persona3 is associated with dark blue.
  • Kasumi, main heroine of the Dead or Alive franchise. Her most iconic outfit is a blue kimono.
  • Albeit he's associated mostly with green, Link from the The Legend of Zelda series usually gets blue as a prominent secondary color by the Master Sword, which hilt is purplish-blue, and all his forms of Sword Lines, Sword Beam and such, light blue. Also, the Hylian Shield.
  • Cloud Strife, from Final Fantasy VII displays a blue Battle Aura in the compilation works.
  • Beck from Mighty No. 9 has a predominant color of blue in his color scheme partly due to being the Spiritual Successor of Mega Man.
  • Elsword: Chung, one of the playable characters, is color coded with blue, and unlike the main protagonist Elsword, Chung is more heroic, noble and innnocent (being a prince helps).
  • The generally-heroic Ultramarines of Warhammer 40K, as their name indicates, have blue armor. To a lesser extent, the Space Wolves (who use grey-blue) who are more Chaotic Good.
  • The Knights of Justice from Black Moon Chronicles use blue everywhere, to the point where they all use You Gotta Have Blue Hair in a Medieval European Fantasy.
  • Sparkster, the main protagonist of the Rocket Knight Adventures series, has a light blue armor which is put in contrast with his Evil Counterpart, Axel Gear, who wears a suit of dark purple armor (Red in the 2010 game, Rocket Knight), as well as the green armor of Emperor Devligus Devotindos' Pig Soldiers in the original game, and the purple armor of King Gedol's Lizard soldiers in the Genesis sequel, Sparkster: Rocket Knight Adventures 2.
  • Shulk from Xenoblade Chronicles, by the blue Laser Blade of the Monado (both the original and the replica) and, specially, the intense blue glow of his eyes each time he has a vision of the future. This eye glow eventually evolves into a full-fledged blue Battle Aura.
  • In Highborn, the Highborn army and buildings they control are blue. It's even Lampshaded by some of the characters, who occasionally say something to the effect of "Oh, he's blue, so he's on the Highborn side". When you play as the Decay in the third chapter, they become blue and the enemy Highborn become red instead.

Western Animation:
Community Feedback Replies: 45
  • July 24, 2014
    Quatic
    Batman, in his TV series days, was definitely on the bluer end of purple.
  • July 24, 2014
    randomsurfer
    "The Fantastic Four. Full stop." = Zero Context Example. Please elaborate.
  • July 24, 2014
    Elfkaiser
    Comics

    • The Fantastic Four are usually known by their iconic blue matching uniforms.
    • Batman sometimes has a blue batsuit in some iterations.
    • Many of the heroic X Men usually have a prominent shade of blue as part of their primary colorscheme such as with Cyclops' spandex and Beast's fur.

    Mythology

    • The heroic god Vishnu and his avatars from Hindu Mythology are blue skinned.

    Film

    Video Games

  • July 24, 2014
    DAN004
    Context for Mega Man
    • The titular Mega Man is also known as the "Blue Bomber" because of the color of his body, i.e mostly blue. Same goes through his other incarnations in the Sequel Series. Notably, they always tend to be innocent or noble-minded in contrast to other characters, although it never stops them from getting stronger.
      • Downplayed in Mega Man Star Force, where Omega-Xis (the Mega Man incarnation of said series) had more selfish motives, at least at first, and he seems to be quite a brash Blood Knight.
      • Subverted in Mega Man Zero: The hero Zero is red, and the Big Bad Copy X is blue (and the antithesis of real X in almost every way).
  • July 24, 2014
    DAN004
    • Elsword: Chung, one of the playable characters, is color coded with blue, and unlike the main protagonist Elsword, Chung is more heroic, noble and innnocent (being a prince helps).
  • July 24, 2014
    Chabal2

  • July 24, 2014
    FlyingDuckManGenesis
    Literature Western Animation
    • Both played straight and subverted on Action League Now. The Chief, the leader of the Action League, wears a dark blue suit, while The Mayor, the series' main antagonist, wears a light blue suit.
    • Buster Bunny, one of the main protagonists of Tiny Toon Adventures has light blue fur. Another recurring protagonist, Furrball the Cat, has dark blue fur.
  • July 24, 2014
    Larkmarn
    ... oh god, are we actually going to make one of these for every color?
  • Film
    • The Master Of Disguise subverts this, as it's actually the villainous Devlin Bowman whose surroundings are often lit with blue lighting, and he wears blue shirts under his white suits. Word Of God was that this was a stylistic choice to have seens with Bowman feel cold and menacing (as opposed to the Disguiseys' world which had lots of warmer colors like red and gold).
  • July 24, 2014
    acrobox
    ^^........

    I'm almost opposed to Blue... but I guess its fine.

    And we already have Primary Color Champion for Red and Blue together are Heroic.

    But we should never have a Yellow Is Heroic. If the hero is Yellow its not because yellow is an inherently heroic color. Same with other colors.

    We could have a trope for what Yellow costumes symbolize whether they're applied to the hero or not. as with the Orange Is Outstading YKTTW
  • July 24, 2014
    DAN004
    At least red and blue by their own have good reasons to be heroic. Not so much with yellow.
  • July 25, 2014
    NemuruMaeNi
    Blue is a primary color that gets naturally associated with sky, bodies of water, and traditionally gets associated with cold. Its use as such in works of fiction is often exaggerated. And it's not very abundant elsewhere. Since oceans and skies are vast and cold is an abstract thing, use of blue to highlight a relatively-small scale individual item or character is feasible, provides a degree of eyecatchiness.

    You live on Earth and likely prefer not to always and everywhere test tap water temperature with your hand. It is those things that are reasons for you to even remember this color has been in the works. It's not for — pardon my French — that bullshit sort of irrelevant even as Flavor Text reasoning that's written up in this current ykttw. Heroism associated with this color? Please. Some color had to be there and it just turned out to be blue this time. You even show (and not see) this yourself when you state that auras in some other renditions were yellow, not blue for some not-important-which example.

    Calmness and purity? Where is anything on that (not to talk further about being non-trivial, having causality) in examples? Fantastic Four are equally all very calm and pure, becaues of this blue color uniforms, right?

    Do try and fail (if you haven't already) to provide context relevant to your declared ideas. All you do is picking up trivial blue auras and blue articles of clothing.

    I'd like to suggest everyone stops pointing fingers at other color tropes. One possibly weak piece doesn't justify a certainly weak other piece existance. Neither do two, three, ten or seven million.

    Better name? "Blue Snow Shoe Clone Horn Hero" or "Snowclone Shoehorn Blue Hero Edition". And this waste deserves a discard. (even as trivia it's utterly insignificant)
  • July 25, 2014
    XanderVJ
    Almost every single argument you've said can be used against Red Is Heroic too.

    Oh, and thank you very much for the uncalled abrasiveness, BTW.

    Anyway, about yellow, as they already said, it isn't used nearly as often to differentiate the hero as red and blue. It's even relatively uncommon in cases of Color Coded Characters (at least compared to other colors), probably because its association with bad luck in some parts of Western culture. Maybe gold would be a tad closer, but still far away, since it implies a degree of social status that's not usually associated with heroes. And when it's used, more often than not it's more to imply some kind of power up.

    If there is another color that you could argue could also be considered "heroic" to an at least similar degree as red and blue, that would be the color white. But considering most of the time it's prominently accompanied by other primary color to make it really stand out, I'm not sure to what degree it applies.

    There is, however, one other color that is prominently associated, not with heroes per se, but rather with anti-heroes: Black. Although this was used mostly in the 90s, but you could still make a case.

    The non-primary colors are directly rare in comparison. Which is not to say that they're difficult to find. Just that red and blue are colors that are used much, much often.

    However, if most of you are still unconvinced, maybe we could scrap Red Is Heroic too and put both cases under Primary Color Champion. Albeit that would require restructuring that entry quite deeply. For example, dividing the examples in cases where red is used alone, cases where blue is used alone, and cases where both are used together.
  • July 25, 2014
    acrobox
    No I think blue is a heroic color. Or at least a color that puts the audience at ease. Where Red gets associated with Heroes because its passionate and intense, blue gets associated with heroes because its trustworthy and resolute.

    This trope can work. It's just that Green Is Heroic or Yellow Is Heroic or Orange Is Heroic etc. I dont think you can tie to the color implying a hero. It implies a hero that is (insert adjective here), but not just hero full stop. Both red and blue can say hero full stop. Other colors you have to qualify.
  • July 25, 2014
    XanderVJ
    You know, those are actually good arguments. I'll add them to the description. :)

    And yeah, the second paragraph is also a good argument. As a matter of fact, you could add that in American superheroes, when a hero sports a color other than red or blue, commonly they have to bring it up in the name, like Green Arrow and Green Lantern. That usually doesn't happen with red and blue, or at least, not as often.
  • July 25, 2014
    Quatic
    Here's a class one example for you, almost an Enforced Trope for this: The original Star Trek series (and some later media). Red is for security people, engineering, and cannon fodder generally; command line officers wear gold; and who wears blue? Science and medical officers, those most expected to have traits associated with calmness and kindness (exemplified by the logically calm Spock and the empathically caring Dr. Mc Coy).
  • July 25, 2014
    XanderVJ
    You don't need to go to Star Trek to find an example of blue as a color of calmness and kindness: in Real Life, doctors during surgery usually wear blue clothes for this very same reason (although green is also a close second, and even then it's usually a bluish tone). It's an important aspect to help the patient to relax and not feeling threaten.

    And ask any interior designer and they will tell you blue is the best color to paint a room if you want to add some calmness and peacefulness to it.

    However, I was trying more to invoke the Good Colors Evil Colors thing (It would be a Sub Trope). Blue is arguably the most commonly used color to represent good, with only white as a meaningful contender. It's association with calmness is one of the reasons. Thus, its connection with heroes is difficult to deny.

    Although I admit that "pureness of heart" wasn't the best choice of words, hence why I changed it to "kindness", which is more appropriate.
  • July 25, 2014
    bejjinks
    Largely, you are getting the backlash because of recent attempts to make other "color is power" tropes. We have Purple Is Powerful and Red Is Heroic. Then we had someone suggest that Orange Is Powerful but that trope suggestion is changing to something better. Currently, its working title is Orange Is Outstanding but it still needs some work. Then someone came out with Pink Is Powerful. And now we have Blue Is Heroic. So you can understand why some people are having a knee jerk reaction to another color is power trope.

    I don't think any color represents power or heroism but each color may represent a kind of heroism. That is, whenever I see a group of superheroes and one is in a certain color, I never assume him to be the powerhouse because of that color. But I may make assumptions about the kind of power he has.

    Black is the dark, antihero that works in the shadows or under the cover of night. Gray is the pure intellect and detective, logical to a fault. White is the righteous or self-righteous idealist. Pink is the underestimated power that winds up doing better than expected. Red is the energetic and quick hero. Purple is the royal or exotic power. Blue is the calm and friendly hero. Green is usually nature based or solid and earthy. Gold is flashy and, being the opposite of pink, spends more time trying to look powerful because he isn't actually powerful. Orange gets its power from Eastern meditation. and Brown is of the home or of the family except when it's an animal symbolism.

    If we're going to do a trope for each color, why does each color have to be powerful or heroic?
  • July 25, 2014
    XanderVJ
    I see.

    Well, I haven't proposed many tropes, so I'm completely unaware of it. But still that doesn't excuse that tone.

    Back on topic, heroism and power are two completely different things, if you ask me. It's true that in mainstream media heroism is used as a vehicle for power fantasies most of the time, and they can necessarily go hand in hand depending on the kind of story, but that doesn't mean that they're the same.

    What I'm trying to explain in this trope is that, just like red, blue is a color for depicting heroic characters, albeit for different reasons. Not that blue in it on itself represents power. Would that make sense?
  • July 25, 2014
    bejjinks
    I'm considering it. I'm neutral on this subject in that I do see the potential for this trope but I want to make sure it rises above the other similar trope suggestions. So, I'm mostly just going to mediate instead of give my opinions on this one.
  • July 25, 2014
    XanderVJ
    OK, fair enough.

    I'll say this, though: if there are really that many colors that convey power or heroism, each one in different ways, and there are enough examples and/or insight to support it... maybe it's justified to create that many tropes. Or at least, discussing it.

    After all, "color theory" exists for a reason.

    Giving the circumstances, though, I'll just limit myself to this one. :P
  • July 25, 2014
    FlyingDuckManGenesis
  • July 25, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ How does the blue symbolize him?

    And please fix Zero Context Examples. Sonic, for one.

    As a side note I actually wanted to continue that orange trope... Though I dunno if it can last long.

  • July 25, 2014
    acrobox
    I'll help out with the orange one too. I thought it was going somewhere.
  • July 28, 2014
    randomsurfer
    The Incredible Hulk: When the Hulk had Banner's brain and was the leader of the the Pantheon his traditional ripped purple pants look is replaced by a pair of pressed blue trousers and a muscle shirt (sometimes white, sometimes black).
  • July 28, 2014
    Hero_Gal_2347
    In Wreck It Ralph, Fix-it Felix Jr., the Adorkable Nice Guy Lancer, is dressed all in blue.
  • July 28, 2014
    acrobox
    Felix is technically The Hero not The Lancer, since Ralph is a Villain Protagonist
  • July 28, 2014
    Elfkaiser
    Comics

    • A-Bomb, Rick Jones's mutated form, resembles the Hulk villain Abomination with the exception of being colored blue. Though he resembles the Abomination, A-Bomb is more heroic than his green colored villainous counterpart and is an ally of Hulk.
  • July 28, 2014
    Hero_Gal_2347
    ^^ Whatever you like. I put it that way because Felix is considered The Lancer of the movie, according to the character page.
  • July 28, 2014
    Dawnwing
    Video Game:

    • In Highborn, the Highborn army and buildings they control are blue. It's even Lampshaded by some of the characters, who occasionally say something to the effect of "Oh, he's blue, so he's on the Highborn side". When you play as the Decay in the third chapter, they become blue and the enemy Highborn become red instead.
  • July 29, 2014
    FlyingDuckManGenesis
    This may be more suitable for the Good Colors Evil Colors page, but if you're looking for some context for why Sparkster from Rocket Knight Adventures' armor is blue, here's what I have:

    • Sparkster's light blue armor is put in contrast with his Evil Counterpart, Axel Gear, who wears a suit of dark purple armor (Red in the 2010 game, Rocket Knight), as well as the green armor of Emperor Devligus Devotindos' Pig Soldiers in the original game, and the purple armor of King Gedol's Lizard soldiers in the Genesis sequel, Sparkster: Rocket Knight Adventures 2.
  • July 29, 2014
    XanderVJ
    The Wreckit Ralph is more of a "played with" example, so I elaborated on it. :)

    And about Rocket Knight Adventures, like I said, this is supposed to be a sub-trope to Good Colors Evil Colors, so it's only natural that they overlap.

    In any case, the post has five hats already and I think we have enough examples to get the thing going, so unless anybody else wants to add or elaborate something in the next few hours, I will publish it. :) I'll look for a good trope image in the mean time. :P

    Thank you all for your support.
  • July 29, 2014
    NemuruMaeNi
    My misanthropy also thanks you all for your support.
  • July 29, 2014
    acrobox
    made a few cleanup edits and fleshed out some Zero Context Examples i was familiar with. I think its good.
  • July 29, 2014
    NemuruMaeNi
    Why is Saber associated with blue and not Lancer of /Stay night? (Lancer is quite blue, but not so much the center character)

    Why is The Beast of X-Men associated with blue and not Mystique? (Mystique is blue-skinned, but you have to look real hard to find any kind nature in her)

    I'd say that's two cases of shoehorning (alleged pattern being a hoax), from pieces I'm more or less familiar with. And Fate/stay night isn't an anime/manga.

    Is the word "iconic" supposed to be self-explanatory? It's used 6 times throughout.
  • July 29, 2014
    Elfkaiser
    Definition of Iconic

    1: of, relating to, or having the characteristics of an icon

    2 a : widely recognized and well-established <an iconic brand name>

    b : widely known and acknowledged especially for distinctive excellence <an iconic writer><a region's iconic wines>

  • July 29, 2014
    Elfkaiser
    Video Games

    • Of the multitude of Mudokons in Oddworld which are mostly predominately green, the hero who saves them Abe is noticeably bluer than the rest of his race.
  • July 29, 2014
    acrobox
    ^^^ Tropes are not universal. This doesnt claim to be universal. In fact it directly points out that Red could be used for similar effect. So not everyone who is blue will be heroic, and not everyone who is heoric will be blue. But this is for examples of when those two overlap and reasonings why.
  • July 29, 2014
    NemuruMaeNi
    ^ What separates Trivia from Trope is pattern nature of the latter, elements of cause-and-effect to glue together its elements. When Blue Hero is a trope, it should ring as such: he's the hero and that's why an author chose to pick Blue as his color on one hand; and, look, a blue character appears there, he's bound to turn out to be the hero because of that on the other hand.

    Assumptions of a trope being present in the work mean that the author has to play it. You can't pry open his head and know his intentions, you have to use logic. And when your logic says, oh, look, he's played it straight here and averted it here, this "logic" becomes more suspicious. You do realize that if you conveniently "forget" to mention the aversion, tropeworthiness doesn't increase? Like in Starcraft, with its oh-so-heroic blue Terran, you would play in the same game as purple Zerg, yellow and brown Protoss (and against blue Protoss even). No matter? it's not those things which are indicative of something, it's that other one? It's this kind of insulting excuse for logic oozing from this ykttw that warranted what some would call "that tone".

    There's also a lot of baseless assumptions ("they're medics, it means they're gentle and caring" — no, it does not; "he has a blue costume, which signifies how kind he is" — total non sequitur), which are good only for personal choice and opinions.

    <edited out the part about Averted Trope, case of misleading myself>

    (Short version: those "reasonings why" are very weak.)
  • July 30, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ reading your arguments about Mystique, I guess better title would be Heroes Wear Blue. (Red Is Heroic should be Heroes Wear Red as well.)
  • July 30, 2014
    acrobox
    ^^ Nemuru Mae Ni I dont understand your arguments.

    he's the hero and that's why an author chose to pick Blue as his color on one hand; and, look, a blue character appears there, he's bound to turn out to be the hero because of that on the other hand. - Thats alreadry the case with most of the examples

    . You do realize that if you conveniently "forget" to mention the aversion, tropeworthiness doesn't increase? - Most tropes list examples not aversions. It's not conveniently forgetting anything. If you want to list an aversion go ahead.

    There's also a lot of baseless assumptions ("they're medics, it means they're gentle and caring" - no, it does not; "he has a blue costume, which signifies how kind he is" - total non sequitur), which are good only for personal choice and opinions. These areb't baseless personal assumptions. This is proven by color theory. Blue is a calming color. Calmness is easily connected to kindness. Red for instance is not a calming color. Neither is yellow. Light green is also used to calm nerves, but you don't see a lot of light green heroes.

    ^ DAN 004 we cant use Heroes Wear because this about Color Coded Characters which isn't always tied to clothing. It can be auras or attacks or weapons or transformation trinkets or other things used to that effect. Primary Color Champion is tied to clothing on the other hand.
  • July 30, 2014
    NemuruMaeNi
    ^ There are two possible explanations for a blue-colored hero. 1) it's a random decision on part of the author. 2) He's blue because author employs the proposed trope, and green or silver or a mixture of colors just won't cut it.

    How do you pick one or the other? (And therefore let the examples in or call them a misuse or a shoehorn and disqualify them) You never show the logic for that. And it's never seen.

    Is #0000FF a calming wallpaper color? Is BSoD a relaxing sight? Would you prefer to live in room with cool white light illumination? Color theory may be a systematization of observations, but it's not precise enough to substantiate such broad claims as "this <broad color group name> is good stuff".

    Strange. If color theory proves that light green calms and if authors want to calm you by giving you a blue hero, why don't they give you light green one? Rhetorical question.
  • July 30, 2014
    AgProv
    AC:Music:

    • The 1970's hit by Paper Lace, Billy, don't be a hero, is a cloying love song set in the American Civil War: Billy is a volunteer, against the will of his girlfriend, who ends up in a heroic last Stand against the perfidious confederates.
      The soldier-blues were trapped on a hillside
      The battle raging all around
      The sergeant cried "We've got to hang on, boys"
      We got to hold this piece a'ground"

    Billy becomes a casualty. Just to make the point to those who hadn't grasped what the song was about, Paper Lace performed in blue Union Army uniforms. See here.
  • July 30, 2014
    Elfkaiser
    ^^ Basic marketing 101 using common color association can be inferred as to why an author gives a hero or villain a certain color. Color is one way to tell people something right away and can help in marketing. If you want to sell an American boy scout hero to the American public for example, chances are such a hero with colors that resemble the American flag is gonna be more recognized as an American boy scout and more successful more than the hero being dressed in colors that don't necessarily scream America. This is the basic stuff people teach in design and art class.

    Sure an author may have chosen a certain color for a hero by random, however it's more likely to guess that they put some thought in choosing a certain color than by random as making absolutely random design choices isn't a wise thing to do in the market.

    As to ascertaining which association of a color is being used, context is kinda the key.

    For example, the blue clothed Virgin Mary and BSOD are both colored blue. In the case of the Virgin Mary, the blue her dress signifies calmness and faithfulness since she is a religious icon. In the case of BSOD, the blue means system failure which is why people wouldn't want to use it as a screen wallpaper because of the context associated in such a situation. So if a hero is clothed in blue especially if given context, chances are the positive associations of blue are being used.

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  • July 30, 2014
    DAN004
    I got the feeling that nemuru just cannot find "color theory" as fact.
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