Created By: 313Bluestreak on March 4, 2013 Last Edited By: XFllo on April 10, 2013

Latin Language and Latin Americans -2 indexes

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  • March 4, 2013
    lexicon
    The Latin language is not Hispanic or Mexican. Hispanic refers to people with Spanish heritage. Spanish was one of the many languages that came from Latin and Latin it's self came from Italy.
  • March 4, 2013
    spacemarine50
    Just change the name, or, just the name.
  • March 5, 2013
    XFllo
    ^^ The OP obviously refers to Latin America, which is an established use.

    There are two possible indexes here, in my opinion: connected with Roman culture and Latin language (Smart People Know Latin, Gratuitous Latin or Ominous Latin Chanting etc.) and Hispanic stuff (Latin Lover, Spicy Latina, El Spanish O etc.).

    These are two very different concepts and should not be included in one index.
  • March 5, 2013
    Arivne
  • March 5, 2013
    TheHandle
    Yes please. Honestly, I came into this YKTTW expecting stuff like Altum Videtur, and instead I find Masked Luchador? Also, why is it that all those "Latin American" tropes seem ridiculous and/or racist? Are iberian and south amercian cultures a joke?
  • March 5, 2013
    313Bluestreak
    Any suggestions of what new name I could give to this trope then?
  • March 5, 2013
    313Bluestreak
    As a matter of fact, I've changed my mind. I don't feel the need to make this a trope considering about the comments I've read. So, I'm discarding this.
  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    I restored your draft.

    Please give it another go. I really think there are two good indexes here. One for Latin Language tropes (if I checked correctly, we don't have it) and one for Latin America which could use a different name. I'd probably expect something like Hispanic.

    Don't mind that people scream useless!, chairs! or is this index a joke?! without proper argumentation. I can see that my first comment might seem a little harsh, but I really thought it as constructive criticism. (And it was criticizing the comment above whose author seemed not to get the term "Latin America".)
  • March 11, 2013
    313Bluestreak
    Okay, I've set up two indexes - one for Latin Language and the other Hispanic. I still need help for which tropes should go into which.
  • March 11, 2013
    McKathlin
    Pretentious Latin Motto goes in the Latin Language Tropes index, and Gratuitous Spanish would fit better in the Latin American Tropes index (as its purpose is typically to lend a spicy Hispanic flavor). Once those two are put in their proper places, these are good to split.
  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    To Latin language you may add these:

    And I would remove El Nino Is Spanish For The Nino from both indexes as it's just one of Language Tropes and not actually connected specifically to either Latin or Spanish.
  • March 11, 2013
    XFllo
    Also, we could extend the ancient Latin language index and include Roman culture. Stuff like The Roman Empire, Classical Mythology or Ancient Grome.
  • March 19, 2013
    XFllo
    Is this really Up For Grabs? If yes, I'm taking it.
  • March 19, 2013
    313Bluestreak
    It's all yours.
  • March 25, 2013
    Quag15
    Ancient Rome for the Roman Culture section.
  • April 10, 2013
    AgProv
    It depends. There appear to be quite wide differences between North America and Britain as to how the English-speaking world categorises the languages that grew up out of Latin. North America seemingly recognises only Spanish-speaking peoples as Latin, or Latin-American. (Where does Portuguese-speaking Brazil fit in this trope? British usage fits this nation into Latin America, and does not differentiate). Common usage in Britain takes in Italy as the linguistic group/ethnicity speaking the "purest" Latin language - after all, Rome is the source.Formal Linguistics describes Spanish,Portuguese, French, Italian, Catalan, Occidan, Swiss/Romanz and Rumanian as being Latin languages, and by extent, their speakers as being Latin peoples. But popular usage would call Rumania a Balkan country, rather than a Latin one... and not too many people are aware of the Catalan-Occidan-Languedoc continuum, straddling south-eastern Spain and south-western France, as having languages which are distinct from Spanish and French and should be classed as linguistically related, but seperate from, the wider language groups around them. So how would the wider latin-language community fit in here?

  • April 10, 2013
    XFllo
    These are supposed to be two separate indexes.
  • April 10, 2013
    Earnest
  • April 10, 2013
    XFllo
    Mexican Standoff woudl qualify only by its name. I don't think it fits.
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