Created By: WhyNotNow on March 20, 2013
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Hitler Was One Of Us

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A trope whereby the creator or team of writers by no means tries to exonerate Hitler, but does not balloon him into the embodiment of all evil either, but as a flawed, deeply disturbed human being, though ultimately in the end, one of us. Downfall is one I'm thinking of.
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  • March 20, 2013
    DracMonster
    I think this is just averting Historical Villain Upgrade. Doesn't seem like it warrants its own page.
  • March 21, 2013
    Nithael
    Well, if the norm in fiction is portraying Hitler as the personification of all evil in the world and The Anti Christ, showing him as humane would be a trope. But we need more description and examples for that.
  • March 21, 2013
    AgProv
    Fan Works In the Good Omens fiction The Viennese Job, the young Adolf Hitler is treated with a certain sympathy as a survivor of childhood abuse with grandiose adult dreams. The vulnerable late teenager is manipulated by Crowley and the forces of Hell, who sense a useful talent that could be employed in the right way, if suitably primed and guided. The hint is that Hitler, without demonic inspiration, would have continued as an ineffectual failure with big dreams until he died in anonymous obscurity. Anthony Crowley, a demon with a conscience, is suitably horrified at what Hitler turns into.
  • March 21, 2013
    VPhantom
    I'll go and say that this is Too Rare To Trope. There are some cases of it, sure, but it seems you can count them with the fingers of a crippled hand.
  • March 22, 2013
    AgProv
    Literature: Beryl Bainbridge's novel Young Adolf focuses on Hitler's possible extended stay in Liverpool, England, in 1912, with his older brother Alois and his Irish wife Bridget. The young Hitler is portrayed as an immature, rather pompous and priggish, delayed adolescent and a layabout who is content to leech on his brother and sister in law rather than go out, get a job, and start learning English. it is amusing to think that if Hitler learnt any English at all, he would have spoken it with a Scouse accent.
  • March 22, 2013
    AgProv
    Comics. The Hitler in Liverpool theme is further developed by comic artist Grant Morrison and Steve Yeowell in their graphic novel The New Adventures of Hitler. Morrison was accused of Nazi sympathies for using Hitler as a humorous character and a figure of fun.
  • March 22, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    The common idea of Hitler as somehow supernaturally evil or a demon rather than a human being has bothered me some--because people then tend to think he's some one-time aberration that will never happen again, we aren't to speak of any parallels we see to him or Nazism (Godwin and all that, who did have a point to some extent, but it should never be an absolute), etc. Which is dangerous because that's the last thing we should do if we want to assure "never again". Depicting Hitler as a human who made human choices and worked in a very human world actually brings more accountability to him (i.e. he's not some devil that would inevitably do it by his demonic nature, but a human who made choices), as well as a more poignant warning to the rest of us that "it can happen here", or anywhere, if we stop paying attention long enough, or succumb as a people to some scary instincts that are, alas, all too present in humans as well.
  • March 22, 2013
    Tuckerscreator
    • In Megamorphs #3, excessive manipulation of time has caused most of history to change, including kicking Hitler from being the head of Germany to just a lowly jeep driver.
  • March 23, 2013
    Wutaz
    Hitler is not special enough to get tropes dedicated exclusively to him. Make it more general or there's no place for it here.
  • March 23, 2013
    EdnaWalker
    Do you think you could list examples of this trope that apply to other madmen like Stalin, Pol Pot, and bin Laden as well?

    We could soft split this trope to two types of examples: Hitler examples and those of other actual evil guys.
  • March 25, 2013
    AgProv
    other evil guys: Josef Stalin's father was a cobbler and shoemaker. It is interesting to speculate that had the young Josef Djugashvili not gone into politics, nor had the Russian Civil War ever happened, he might have lived out his days making and repairing footwear. Also, the young Josef seriously considered the idea of becoming a priest. How would a Russian Orthodox minister called Father Djugashvili have played out?
  • April 11, 2013
    EdnaWalker
    Bump?
  • April 11, 2013
    DunDun
    This really is just an aversion of Historical Villain Upgrade and Historical Villain Downgrade, but for some reason is specific to Hitler. Either discard it (Too Rare To Trope?) or rename it to something like Historical Villain Realism (or something without naming specific people).
  • April 11, 2013
    FastEddie
    ^Seconding that. One particular villain is way too narrow.
  • April 11, 2013
    EdnaWalker
  • April 11, 2013
    AmyGdala
    I agree that Historical Villan Realism would be more of a trope. But mainly, I clicked this YKTTW because I was terrified that we had a trope for Hitler Was A Sexy Nerd.
  • April 11, 2013
    StarSword
    ^Pass the Brain Bleach, lol.
  • April 19, 2013
    DunDun
    Bump
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