Created By: DragonQuestZ on December 20, 2011 Last Edited By: morenohijazo on May 10, 2013

Bad Parameter Name

A predefined message for trope names that make a trope look like something else.

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One of the most common causes of Square Peg Round Trope is a name that actually looks square, when the trope is round. In other words, a trope has certain parameters, but the name implies parameters that are larger, smaller, or different altogether.

Misuse can vary depending on how the name shows the trope incorrectly. It can range from examples that are broader than the trope, examples that fit but are almost all only a certain segment of the trope, to examples that don't fit at all.

Many of our Renamed Tropes are because the names poorly defined the parameters of their tropes.

Needs a Better Description.

Tropes that were renamed due to bad parameter names:

  • From Clones to Genre, was originally called "Genre Launch". It was about the metamorphasis from Follow the Leader clones to becoming a full blown genre. The word "launch" implies the beginning of a genre, and the vast majority of wicks was confusing this for a genre maker.
Community Feedback Replies: 18
  • December 20, 2011
    Stratadrake
  • December 20, 2011
    randomsurfer
  • December 20, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ This is more specific than that.

    Plus it could get confused with Never Trust A Title.
  • December 20, 2011
    nman
  • December 20, 2011
    Stratadrake
    Ah, I see. This covers names that are "too specific" or "too broad" compared to their actual definitions? (And if we really want to snowclone, we can always say Square Title Round Trope)
  • December 20, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ I might go with that name. I mean, some wouldn't like a snowclone, but it really helps get the point across.
  • December 20, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^^ That would have to be renamed though. I did make a thread for it now. Thank you for reminding me about it.
  • December 24, 2011
    SeanMurrayI
    Ambiguous Title, Ambiguous Name, perhaps?

    The point being made here appears to be that while a trope description can explicitly describe things one way, people can still assume different meanings from the trope name alone if the name isn't entirely straightforward or clear (and especially if people don't read the description).

    On that note, what we would want to specifically encourage here is that trope names can objectively provide some idea about what the trope actually is supposed to be so there is a reduced likelihood of anyone misusing a trope without reading a description.
  • December 24, 2011
    Koveras
    Not to be confused with Nonindicative Title, which is for works.
  • December 24, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ That could apply to works. And this is more specific to tropes than just being ambiguous.
  • December 24, 2011
    SeanMurrayI
    I meant to refer to Ambiguous Trope Name, but fair enough.

    I would, however, imagine ambiguity in a trope name (or, at least, in specific language in a trope name) being a prime cause for this type of problem. For instance, Luca Brasi Sleeps With The Fishes appears to be misused for about three different things based on its name, including a Stock Phrase, a reference to Cement Shoes, and Mary Kellys Kidney (soon to be Finger in the Mail). Granted, I would call this an extreme case of what you're describing, but it would still be related to the point you're trying to make.

    Words or phrases in a trope name intended to mean one thing when they can be interpreted to mean different things can lead to trope examples becoming far too varied and too out of hand.
  • December 24, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    This would be a subtype then. Names can be non-indicative in various ways. This is a specific one.
  • December 30, 2011
    morenohijazo
    This is way all tropes should have a good laconic page. Sometimes the core of the trope is hidden among all the straw.
  • December 30, 2011
    Lyendith
    Something They Would Never Say is frequently misinterpreted as a counterpart of Something Only They Would Say. It's not. I was recently a victim.
  • December 30, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    Yeah, names that look like Opposite Tropes, but the tropes are not, definitely count for this.
  • December 30, 2011
    MorganWick
  • January 9, 2012
    razorrozar7
    As far as snowclones go, what about Names Not The Same?
  • January 9, 2012
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ You do not encourage snowclones. Those at best are for Sister Tropes.

    And that name does not indicate that this is about trope titles.
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