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Informed Real Life Fame
Bob must be famous because that's what the TV show he's guest-starring on is telling us.
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Informed Real Life Fame is a type of Audience Reaction that occurs when the luster of a real-life "superstar" is oddly contained to the universe of a particular TV program or movie in which he is appearing As Himself.

Sometimes, The Informed Real Life Fame can arise in retrospect such as when a One-Hit Wonder manages to land a guest-shot as himself or herself on a popular TV show just before his or her 15 minutes expires. At the time the episode originally airs, the One Hit Wonder may actually have a fair amount of fame and public recognition but in the reruns aired years after the One Hit Wonder has ceased being even the punchline to flash-in-the-pan jokes, people seeing the show will have no idea who the One Hit Wonder is and will be puzzled about why he (or she) is being presented as such a big deal. (This also makes the episode of the TV show an Unintentional Period Piece.)

Another way Informed Real Life Fame comes into play is when the "celebrity" depicted in the TV program as a hot new star is, in real life, a One Hit Wonder Without a Hit. Even people seeing the show when it's initially aired have little idea on who this heavily-hyped newcomer is and why he (or she) is being presented as such a big deal. In some cases, this example of Informed Real Life Fame comes about when a campaign of money, publicity, and hype to launch an unknown performer into superstar status fails spectacularly.

Increasingly, Informed Real Life Fame has become intermingled with Fan Myopia and Popcultural Osmosis Failure. As popular culture gets more fragmented, a person who's famous with one particular demographic may be completely unknown by another. Something similar can be experienced if someone from "Country A" is watching a TV show from "Country B" featuring a guest-star who's not known outside of "Country B".


  • A commercial example: back in the 1970s, Alberto VO 5 hair products had a series of ads starring "international superstar" Rula Lenska. While she was recognizable as an actress in the UK, in North America she was famous chiefly as "that woman on the shampoo commercials nobody's ever heard of."

  • A 1980s Archie Comics story guest-starred, and featured on the cover, one Glen Scarpelli as a Teen Idol that the characters just couldn't stop gushing about. In fact, while Scarpelli wasn't completely obscure—he had a recurring role as Alex Handris on One Day at a Time—he wasn't known for his music. However, his father, Henry Scarpelli, had been an Archie Comics artist for decades, so draw your own conclusion.

  • In an in-universe example, Miranda in When You Reach Me sees this at work while watching a taping of the $20,000 Pyramid. ("The celebrities take the stage. I've never heard of either one of them.")

Newspaper Comics
  • Mallard Fillmore did a week-long series of strips promoting the drafting of conservative economist Walter E. Williams as the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. In the strips, the groundswell of popular support for Williams' drafting is depicted as being so huge that it causes then-Chairman of the DNC Howard Dean to throw a tantrum out of fear and frustration. In reality, Williams was little-known other than by hardcore listeners of the Rush Limbaugh Show where he sometimes guest-hosted when Limbaugh was on vacation.

Live-Action TV
  • Probably the best example of this occurred when the short-lived late 70s sitcom Hello Larry made a desperate attempt to garner higher ratings by getting Joey "Not John" Travolta to guest-star on the show as himself. Although efforts were made during the episode to convince viewers he was every bit as hot and famous as his older brother, even then people knew he was a lesser-known sibling trying to ride on his coattails.
  • During the 1970s, there were several variety specials aired starring an unknown singer named Dora Hall. Hall was the 70-something wife of Solo Cup Company CEO Leo Hulseman who used his fortune to bankroll her recording career and produce her TV specials even though she hadn't performed publicly since the 1920s. Hulseman even lined up some recognizable-at-the-time guest stars for Hall's shows even though they were as much in the dark about who she was and why she was being presented as such a big deal as the TV viewers.
  • The Muppet Show had this to an extent in the first season, when no-one knew how big it was going to be, and the special guests were mostly doing Lew Grade a favour. So there were several British celebs that American audiences had never heard of, but Kermit would still try and convince everyone that Bruce Forsyth was an international megastar.
  • Not so much in the show itself, but NBC's advertising for The Master (aka Master Ninja) hyped co-star Timothy van Patten as "the supreme heartthrob." As our own page notes, "Timothy van Patten was never a supreme heartthrob, even in 1984."
  • On reruns of What's My Line, the mystery celebrities are often long-forgotten teen heartthrobs or Broadway stars. (Oh my gosh, it's...Van Johnson?)
  • Parodied on one The Weakest Link special, which specifically used B list celebrities (or "People who are famous for one reason or another." as Anne Robinson put it).
  • Also parodied on Mystery Science Theater 3000 with "TV's Frank". "TV's Frank" is not famous for anything even though his name would suggest he's a well-known television star. The creators just thought the convention of adding "TV's" or "Hollywood's" to an actor's name is funny.

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