Created By: neoYTPism on May 9, 2011 Last Edited By: neoYTPism on May 20, 2011
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DefridgedHorror

A concept that used to be just Fridge Horror is now openly part of the series.

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EDIT: I consider this almost ready to launch, but am still open to further title suggestions.

So let's say some work has a form of Fridge Horror, at least according to fan interpretations of the work. It could be entirely by accident, and just be a product of Fridge Logic. It could be deliberate, but still left to thaw on its own in the audience's imagination through subtle Fridge Brilliance.

Whatever the case, obviously said disturbing aspect of the work is not definitive as of yet, as there could in theory be some way around it. So far it has left explaining it up to the viewers, so you could probably expect that pattern to continue, right?

Well, sometimes you'd be wrong.

This is for when a prior Fridge Horror concept has been turned into an major aspect of the series. They are heating the fridge horror, instead of relying on it thawing on its own.

This is it. Nothing Is the Same Anymore. That disturbing aspect of the series has just gone from ambiguous to absolute, and the series has become Darker and Edgier for it.

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  • The Ecco the Dolphin series does this in Ecco: Tides Of Time, (the sequel to the original game) with the questions the concept of time travel raises. The original had Ecco time travel into the past one time to get a globe from past-Asterite to bring to present-asterite, and another time to save his fellow dolphins from a Vortex invasion. One cannot help but think this left questions about time travel in the minds of fans, because the sequel explored them in horrifying and confusing depth.
  • Pokémon Black and White does this with some of the Fridge Horror of the Pokémon series. They introduced Team Plasma, an organization based on the idea that it's morally wrong to force Pokemon to beat each other nearly to death for sport. The organization has two conflicting leaders -- N, who honestly believes in the organization's mantra, and Ghetsis, who only preaches this to try and convince everyone else in the world to release their Pokemon so that he'll be the most powerful Trainer around. Guess which one has a Heel-Face turn, and which one's the final boss...

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Community Feedback Replies: 39
  • May 9, 2011
    Hodou
    Pokemon Black and White based their plot around this by introducing Team Plasma, an organization based on the idea that it's morally wrong to force Pokemon to beat each other nearly to death for sport. The organization has two conflicting leaders -- N, who honestly believes in the organization's mantra, and Ghetsis, who only preaches this to try and convince everyone else in the world to release their Pokemon so that he'll be the most powerful Trainer around. Guess which one has a Heel-Face turn, and which one's the final boss...
  • May 9, 2011
    KyleJacobs
    This seems like a subtrope of Deconstruction. As such:

    Anime And Manga
  • May 10, 2011
    jaytee
    Is this specifically for when a work examines its own fridge elements? Or is it when one work deals with the fridge from another work?

    Because the former might be tropeable (although the page image is confusing, being from a different work), while the latter is just Deconstruction But More Specific.
  • May 10, 2011
    jaytee
    Also, wouldn't the title just be Thawing The Fridge? Is dethawing just freezing?
  • May 10, 2011
    peccantis
    It is a good idea but I have to second jaytee here, it's Deconstruction. The way this is described, it depends on whether people have had Fridge Horror about what is being deconstructed. However, the nature of deconstruction demands at least one person sees the fridge horror. Deconstruction is an act to make the fridge horror visible for others. The image posted above would make for a great page image for Deconstruction, can we please use it?
  • May 10, 2011
    TippyToeZombie
    Pokemon Black and White does this with quite a bit of the fridge horror of the Pokemon series.
  • May 10, 2011
    elwoz
    Yah, it should be Thawing The Fridge Horror. I'm a descriptivist, so I'm not going to say "unthawing" isn't a word, but it's the same as "freezing", which is not what we want here.
  • May 10, 2011
    ElaineRose
    This does kind of sound like Deconstruction to me as well, but it also looks (at a glance) like a decent article, perhaps for that other wiki. But I could be sleep deprived and confusing this for something related to (Accidental) Nightmare Fuel.
  • May 10, 2011
    Elihu
    Yeah, it sounds like Deconstruction in every way that matters.
  • May 10, 2011
    neoYTPism
    My understanding of deconstruction is shaky, but even based on it, this is very specifically the variety of deconstruction that takes something previously played either mildly or glossed over and turns it into something Played For Drama. Even if it is a variety of deconstruction, it is specific enough to qualify as a subtrope.
  • May 10, 2011
    bluepenguin
    The first possible method of Deconstruction, as listed on that page: "The most common way is to play the element perfectly straight, but to show the kinds of consequences this would have in the "real world", both good and bad and on real people."

    How is that not this?
  • May 10, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Not everything that could be Fridge Horror has a fathomable real-world equivalent. See also my roboticization example. This is simply a way of further exploring dark ideas previously glossed over.
  • May 11, 2011
    Clevomon
  • May 11, 2011
    Chabal2
    About the image: I think the third panel should be changed to Tom in the wheelchair, as it gets the point across better than the judge.
  • May 11, 2011
    peccantis
    ^or the second one.
  • May 11, 2011
    X2X
    You need to edit the link. Put a place in-between the URL and the word "The" so that the comic will display properly when Tropers click on the link.
  • May 11, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^^^ I actually thought the judge looked pretty intimidating. I'll replace the hospital bed with the wheelchair.

    ^ Ah, I didn't even bother to check my own link, so I didn't realize until you pointed it out that the comic didn't display properly. I'll fix that.
  • May 13, 2011
    hevendor717
    I'm not sure Deconstruction is all that suitable here. After all, Fridge Horror is more of a trope of audience reaction than storytelling. So it's not deconstructing a narrative aspect.
  • May 13, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^ What is that in response to?
  • May 13, 2011
    deuxhero
    Also for Pokemon, Pokemon Special makes use of the "Pocket Monsters have the power to seriously injure or even kill" Elephant In The Living Room.
  • May 15, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Mentioned @ deuxhero
  • May 15, 2011
    EdibleComplex
    Maybe "Reheating the Fridge Horror"? Something smarmy involving a microwave goes here.

    Anyway, the trope seems sound. While I think those who think it's merely deconstruction have a point, I don't think they have a right one; there's a good argument here for it being a subtrope or special application of a deconstruction, not for it being *equivalent" to deconstruction. Reheating would be deconstructing the work by having the work accept a fridge horror (does it have to be a horror already recognized by fans?), and thus removing one of the expected suspensions of disbelief in the narrative. Removing these blind-spots amounts to re-writing the rules of the fantasy universe to accord more with the rules of reality (or what the critic, audience or author thinks are the rules of reality), which is a big part of what the practice of deconstruction is.

    The selectivity of the removal of these rules generates the surreality - above we have a cartoon mouse dealing with real world consequences.

    I think part of the problem with the argument about whether this is "just deconstruction" is that we don't have a tight grip on what "deconstruction" actually is.
  • May 15, 2011
    arromdee
    A lot of the examples of deconstruction we already have are being very selective about what is given real world rules. In fact just about every example does so. That's why Watchmen has Rorschach be unable to evade the police, yet still has him give a Hannibal Lecture.
  • May 16, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Something about "reheating" seems to imply it was heated before though @ Edible Complex
  • May 18, 2011
    Madrugada
    The "Fridge" in Fridge Horror has nothing to do with the fact that refrigerators are cold. It's referring to the fact that the horror only sinks in later, for instance, when you're standing at the fridge getting a snack after the show is over. For this reason, I don't think Reheating, Thawing or Unfreezing is a good choice for the name.
  • May 18, 2011
    SonicLover
    Give us a good summary of the trope and I'll try to come up with a name.
  • May 18, 2011
    X2X
  • May 18, 2011
    Otakukun
    From The Fridge Defriged Horror Leftover Horror My personal Favorite or maybe something to do with Tv dinners

  • May 18, 2011
    StarryEyed
    The way I see it, Fridge Horror is when the audience realizes something that makes the implications of the work a lot darker than it first seemed. But it's usually assumed this was unintentional on the part of the creator. This trope is when later events basically make the Fridge Horror into canon.

  • May 19, 2011
    hevendor717
    Pulled From The Fridge Horror, It Came From The Fridge (Horror), Fridge Horror Meal, Fridge Horror Leftovers, Not Just Fridge Horror, Reaching Into The Fridge Horror, Straight Out of the Fridge Horror...

    But I like Defridged Horror best so far...even though it has a major flaw- sounding much like it's a variety of lessened horror, like Defanged Horrors.
  • May 19, 2011
    hevendor717
    Related to Ascended Fanfic.
  • May 19, 2011
    neoYTPism
    I will go with Defridged Horror for now, as it seems reasonably witty and concise. It only very vaguely sounds like Defanged Horrors, and should not be too difficult to tell apart from it to those who are paying attention.
  • May 19, 2011
    peccantis
    So this is when the horror cannot be "fridged" i.e. audience doesn't get a chance to go "oh, that thing--!!" at the fridge later on, because the creator includes in the work the elements of a trope/plot/something that would otherwise be included in the fridge realisation. Based on that, Defridged Horror isn't too bad. Pre Fridge Horror? Stolen Fridge Moment? Pre Emptive Fridge Horror? Fridge Horror Pre Emption (is that even a word?)?
  • May 19, 2011
    ginsengaddict
  • May 19, 2011
    neoYTPism
    Thawed Horror could just as easily apply to Fridge Horror left to thaw on its own in the minds of the audience; see also the "thaw" metaphor on the Fridge Horror page itself. That's why I'm trying to make a metaphor that emphasizes that this is being MANUALLY thawed by the WRITERS. Thanks for giving a suggestion anyway though.

    EDIT: And peccantis, "pre" and "stolen" don't really seem connected to this concept at all.
  • May 19, 2011
    Otakukun
    If this becomes a trope we should make a corresponding "Defridge" Super Trope for all non horror instances
  • May 19, 2011
    Otakukun
    Another title idea Ascended Fridge Horror
  • May 19, 2011
    Rolf
    ^voting for above. it may be snowclone but hey its great name.
  • May 20, 2011
    neoYTPism
    ^^ Oh wow, that is TOO perfect. I am now ready to launch it with that title. Thanks.
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