Created By: DragonQuestZ on November 3, 2009
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Sensible Heroes Skimpy Villains

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Guess who is the villain.

Just as good and evil can sometimes be Color-Coded for Your Convenience, you can also sometimes tell them apart when villains dress in outfits that are overall far skimpier and sexier than what the heroes wear.

Although it's not that common nowadays, this likely started as a form of Getting Crap Past the Radar. "It's okay if they dress immorally. They're the bad guys! (wink)"

This trope doesn't require the good guys to dress up like prudes, nor that they never put on sexy clothing (because, you know, Fanservice). It's just that their regular outfits are significantly less skimpy than what the villains wear (and the heroes can dress like that with an Evil Costume Switch).

The exact way an outfit is skimpier can vary. It could be anything from more revealing necklines to being outright Stripperific.

This often overlaps with Evil Is Sexy, except this doesn't require the villain to actually be sexy, just dress sexy (there is a difference, as sometimes the skimpy dressed villain can just be a skank or just not attractive). Furthermore that trope often has the villains dress just as sensibly as the heroes, or the heroes to dress just as sexy as the villains (most Super Hero comics). Neither of those are this trope.

Compare Good Eyes, Evil Eyes.

Rolling Examples:

  • The picture comes from Yaiba, where the moon empress dresses like a Playboy Bunny (she's apparently an anthropomorphic rabbit possessing a human), while the heroes dress sensibly.
  • The Dark Queen of Battletoads. Even though the toads were technically naked, it's not really skimpy due to them being obviously anthropomorphic.
  • Lunar The Silver Star. Luna wears a peasant dress at first, then practically nothing after her (apparent) Face–Heel Turn.
  • Compare Rinoa and Ultimecia in Final Fantasy VIII. Rinoa may be prettier, but evil gets a dress where the neckline ends at the crotch. And then it's slit up to the crotch.
  • Dr. Frank N Furter who often dresses in nothing more than a corset, fishnets, heels, and short shorts (or panties...). When others "succumb" to his power, they start dressing this way.
  • Harribel, Grimmjow, Loly, Lillinet from Bleach.
  • In Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose, the dark witch's outfit are even skimpier than those of her good sister, and that's really saying something.
  • The Tin Man recent sf fi original film with Neal Mcdon(something) and Zoey Deschanel, the evil sis had some costumes.
  • Pricess Aura's metal bikini with shoulders & cape from Flash Gordon.
  • I-NO of Guilty Gear is... improperly dressed. Works for "That Man", who appears to be The Man Behind the Man.
  • The Mirror Universe in Star Trek
Community Feedback Replies: 19
  • November 3, 2009
    DarkSasami
    Wow, another trademark DQZ "dump the old discussion where people pointed out the obvious flaw" move. Here is the old discussion.

    Still not splittable from Evil Is Sexy.
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    I dumped it because I changed the picture and description, but the replies from before that were just making confusion. In case you hadn't noticed, that's actually worked when I've done it before, because I fixed the flaw pointed out.

    And how is this not "splittable"? What about Evil Is Sexy states that it's a way to tell the good and bad guys apart? Until you show that, your claim this isn't its own trope has shaky ground.
  • November 3, 2009
    Machiavellienne
    'Not completely identical to another trope' and 'good trope' are not synonymous.
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    Where did I claim this was "good"? Tropes Are Tools means most tropes aren't anyway.

    And how is it merely not completely identical? I mean that. How is it barely different that it doesn't stand out?
  • November 3, 2009
    Machiavellienne
    "Good" as in "This is a good trope, we should launch this."
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    "some villains are just gorgeous. They ooze sex appeal and carnality in a way that represents how seductive and tempting evil can be."

    "Just as good and evil can sometimes be Color Coded For Your Convenience, you can also sometimes tell them apart when villains dress in outfits that are overall far skimpier and sexier than what the heroes wear."

    How are those barely distinct? If it's so clear, you should be able to point out what parts of it I'm missing.

    And I chose those lines because those are basically the theses of these tropes. They are the core definitions.

    If what makes them look the same is a secondary (and optional) point in the EIS description, that DOES give room for splitting, as the trope clearly covers a lot more ground than just the core description. Not to mention it's clearly a Super Trope already.
  • November 3, 2009
    Aminatep
    Dress Coded For Your Convenience.

    There are rules not only for villains, you know.
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ Almost works. It's a good way to make it clear it's about both sides (which you know, Evil Is Sexy is not), but I need a word about showing skin in clothes, since just "dress coded" could mean it's about good and evil costuming in general.
  • November 3, 2009
    Aminatep
    Does anything stop you from launching Dress Coded For Your Convenience and describing typical villains' clothes there?
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    Not those arguments (since this could cover villains that are unattractive and dress less), but the word "dress" implies other forms of costuming (like villains wearing black and heroes wearing white) that could cause a case of Square Peg Round Trope.

    So I need a word at the beginning that makes the trope clear, with "Coded For Your Convenience" at the end.
  • November 3, 2009
    Unknown Troper
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    That makes it seems like a movie rating. I replaced the Xs with question marks.
  • November 3, 2009
    Frodo Goofball CoTV
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    Would Sensible Heroes Skimpy Villains do the trick?
  • November 3, 2009
    Unknown Troper
    ...The X-Rating makes sense, actually.
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ No, because this doesn't involve outright porn (save for rare examples).
  • November 3, 2009
    Earnest
  • November 3, 2009
    Aminatep
    > but the word "dress" implies other forms of costuming

    Of course. Dress code means this. There are dress codes for heroes and villains. There are dress codes for Knight Templars and Obi Wans. Dress Coded For Your Convenience implies that you can say something about the character according to its overall dressing style. Color Coded For Your Convenience works exactly the same. Your pic illustrates it perfectly.

    The subject is "Dress Coded For Your Convenience meets Evil Is Sexy"Ā¯.
  • November 3, 2009
    DragonQuestZ
    Dress Coded For Your Convenience would be the Super Trope for this. So I think I'll go with Sensible Heroes Skimpy Villains, and then go with that name for the super trope.
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