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Music To Invade Poland To
(permanent link) added: 2010-01-03 22:24:07 sponsor: StudiodeKadent (last reply: 2010-01-04 07:31:07)

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Unfortunate Implications are rather common regarding the nation of Germany, for obvious reasons. After World War II, every single piece of media produced in Germany has had a startling tendency to be viewed by non-Germans through the prism of is this Nazism or not?

This especially applies to German music. And, unfortunately, to any music that "sounds German" regardless of whether or not it was made in Germany.

Music to Invade Poland To refers to any music that gets accused of being Nazist (or National Socialist) because it sounds "Germanic," "Teutonic," "Wagnerian" or the like.

For the most part, Music to Invade Poland To does not advocate National Socialism. Unfortunately, the use of big, dramatic, "German-sounding" music as soundtracks in World War II films has cemented the association between grandiose, pretentious music set to relatively steady tempos and authoritarian and/or racist political movements.

This is not yet a Discredited Trope. The Trope Namer is a particularly infamous review of Rammstein's album Mutter; the review described the album as "Music to Invade Poland To."


  • Rammstein, for obvious reasons.
    • The band later wrote Links 1-2-3 as a response to accusations of Nazism.
  • Industrial Metal bands other than Rammstein are also accused of this. German band KMFDM was accused of this in the aftermath of the Columbine Massacre.
  • Richard Wagner is perhaps a justification for this trope, given that he was anti-semitic and arguably advocated a form of fascism. Thus, any music with a similar penchant for the dramatic will tend to get unfairly associated with his political views.
  • Ludwig Von Beethoven also gets, at times, used as the background music for scenes of German fascism.
  • Industrial music, which is relatively popular in Germany, often gets accused of being National Socialist. In particular, bands like Front 242 and Nitzer Ebb (the latter of which deliberately cultivated a militaristic, Germanic image (and neither of which were actually German)) were on the receiving end of this accusation regularly.
    • Industrial project C-Drone-Defect subverts this in their latest album Dystopia. The man behind the project is dressed in very severe garb and photoshopped into Orwellian-Retro-Futuristic dystopian backdrops that seem ripped out of Equilibrium and 1984 and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. The music is very epic, hymnal and Wagnerian with signficant use of orchestral sounds, yet the whole concept behind the project is an anti-authoritarian one.
    • Industrial act Laibach very deliberately invoked this trope and made dramatic, Germanic-sounding, Martial music. They pushed the nationalism angle further by issuing passports and claiming to have formed their own state.
  • Industrial Metal project Hanzel Und Gretyl (which usually sings in German, but is composed of Americans) deliberately invoked this in their album Uber Alles. They wanted an album that invoked every single German cliche imaginable, so they went for what they called the "obvious German cliche." Some song titles include "Third Reich From The Sun" and "SS Deathstar Supergalactik." The album was banned in Germany.
  • Chopin's Polonaise Op. 53 is an inversion of the trope, "music to be invaded by Nazi Germany to."
  • The genre of Power Metal is also Music to Invade Poland To. The Power Metal band Blind Guardian, for instance, are basically Fantasy Geeks that make bombastic, Tuetonic-sounding Heavy Mithril. Unsurprisingly, but unfortunately, they are accused of Nazism.
    • There are some actual National Socialist metal bands, some of which who indulge in Viking mythology to the point of practicing racist variants of Asatru (Norse neo-Paganism). But these acts are a minority of metal acts.

  • Triumph of the Will. Justified because the film is actually Nazi propaganda and deliberately appeals to the audiences passions with dramatic, soaring music.
  • Manhattan Murder Mystery invokes and lampshades this trope when Woody Allen's character Larry says "I can't listen to that much Wagner, ya know? I start to get the urge to conquer Poland."
  • Arguably, the Imperial March from Star Wars invokes this. The tempo is steady, the chord progressions are solemn and grandiose, and the music accompanies scenes of a totalitarian regime with a great sense of theatrical panache.

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  • Any film, cartoon or live-action TV show that has used a "German-sounding" song as background music for scenes of Nazi activities has perpetuated this association.

[[folder:Real Life]]
  • During the Vietnam War, the Army actually did use music like Wagner to intimidate North Vietnamese forces. The iconic scene in Apocalypse Now is indeed based in fact.

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