Created By: TheTitan99 on September 2, 2013 Last Edited By: TheTitan99 on September 19, 2013
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Renamed The Same

A character's new name is nearly identical, or actually identical, to their old name.

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Gill: Oh, I am no longer Gil, now I am Gill!
Gill: I added an "L". You know, as in gill, as in, these things that grew when I mutated?!

So, Alice and Bob are having a discussion about what Bob's new name will be, since he's grown tired of it. He contomplates for a long time, then eventually figures out the perfect name that'd suit perfectly.

Bob renames himself Robert.

Naturally, Alice is confused by this. The new name is nearly identical to his old name. Nonetheless, he sticks to his "new" name, despite it barely being different at all.

This trope is often times Played for Laughs. Where there would originally be a Meaningful Rename, the character's new name is basically what they always had before. Usually, there is a reaction from others as to the pointlessness of the new name.


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     Anime 
  • In one episode of Pokémon anime, when Ash Ketchum needs a fake name, he sees Pikachu with a bottle of ketchup, and almost takes the name Ash Ketchup. He eventually comes up with "Tom Ato".

     Comic Books 
  • Three different Robins have gone by the name Red Robin.
  • Pre Crisis Superboy renamed himself Superman while he was in college as shown in the miniseres Superman: The Secret Years.
  • When Henry Pym stopped becoming small and started becoming large, he changed his name from Ant-Man to Giant-Man.

     Film 
  • In the backstory of King Kong 1976 Dawn changed her name to Dwan so it'd be more memorable.
  • In the film In the Bleak Midwinter (U.S. title A Winter's Tale), people think that Fadge's name is somewhat odd; eventually she changes it to Fah.

     Literature 
  • In the Bloody Jack books Jackie ends up working as spy undercover in a ballet in France (Long Story) and picks out a new name so the French don't figure out the legendary lady pirate Jackie Faber is within their boarders. She decides to go with Jacqueline...her fellow dancers quickly shorten it to Jackie.
  • Lampshaded in the first The Stainless Steel Rat book, when the protagonist manages to find Angelina:
    "The man you wanted to see, Engela." So she was still an angel, though under a different name. That was a bad habit she should watch, only I wasn't going to tell her. A lot of people have been caught by taking an alias too similar to their old one.note 
  • In Men at Arms, Cheery Littlebottom changes the spelling of her name to "Cheri" after defying dwarf tradition to "come out" as a female. Angua suggests she could pronounce it "Sherie" as well.

     Live Action TV 
  • In one episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, Tom Servo changes his last name to Serveaux. It's pronounced exactly the same, but Tom thinks he can tell when people aren't pronouncing it right.
  • In one episode of Monty Python's Flying Circus, Adolph Hitler is hiding out in Minehead as Adolph Hilter. His cronies Von Ribbentrop and Heinrich Himmler are similarly renamed Ron Vibbentrop and Heinrich Bimmler.

     Myth and Legend 
  • There's an old Russian urban legend about a merchant woman named Semizhopova (lit. of Seven Arses). She wrote a petition to Catherine the Great to allow her to change her name. The empress answered: "Five is enough" and changed the merchant's name to Pyatizhopova (of five arses). In other versions of the legend the trolling monarch is Nicholas I or Nicholas II.

     Religion 
  • The Bible:
    • Abram (Hebrew, exalted father) is renamed Abraham (Hebrew, father of many nations) by God.
    • Post-conversion Saul renames himself Paul, which is just the Latin version of the Hebrew name.

     Theatre 
  • In The Importance of Being Earnest Jack, an adopted man, refers to himself as Earnest when in town. His love interest feels she can only marry a man named Earnest and can only marry a man with a strong family social standing (which being adopted, Jack does not). After some misunderstandings and Hilarity Ensues, Jack's birth certificate surfaces at the plays's end he was named Earnest all along.
  • In Wicked, Galinda changes her name to Glinda.

     Toys 
  • The Matoran Universe in BIONICLE does this for its You Mean Xmas equivalent, Naming Day. In addition to the day off and exchanging gifts, certain Matoran would have the spelling of their name slightly altered as a way to thank them for their good deeds. Jala became Jaller note , Huki became Hewkii, and Maku became Macku. Takua, who didn't get this honor, renamed his Ussal Crab Puku into Pewku. The meta reason for such a thing being a big honor is due to LEGO coming under fire for the names of certain BIONICLE characters being taken wholesale from Oceanic languages.

     Video Games 
  • Thanatos, in the game Kid Icarus: Uprising, use to be called Tanatos, until he added an "h" to his name. This doubles as a throwback to the original Kid Icarus, where the character, due to a translation error, actually was called Tanatos.
    "Actually, I go by "Thanatos", now. The extra "h" is for HAMAZING!"
  • Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII changed her name to her current one after she lost her parents so that she can be strong. Later her birth name was revealed, Eclair, French for...well, lightning. Only in the Japanese version, in the English version her real name was changed to Claire.
  • Any time you can name a character in a Video Game, there is a chance for this to happen. For instance, in Chrono Trigger, there is a character originally named R-66Y before joining your team. After he joins, you can name him whatever you want, and it'll be treated as his new name... including the name R-66Y.

     Visual Novels 
  • In Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors, every character, besides the main character, takes on a numerical code name to hide their true identity. It later turns out that the character Clover actually used their real name as their code name, since it fit with the numerical system.

     Web Video 
  • In The Website Is Down #4: "Sales Demolition", Web Dude/Derrick is assigned to update the corporate username of employee Nancy Johnson, who got married and is now named Nancy Johnson-Johnson. All this entails (at least until Derrick gets distracted and screws up) is changing the entry "NancyJ" to "NancyJj".
  • In the Mega Man (Classic) Flash animation "Mega Man's Revenge 2", Bass had changed his name to Ass. Yeah, yeah, we know...

     Western Animation 
  • In The Simpsons, one episode deals with Homer J. Simpson trying to learn what the "J" in his name stands for. He eventually learns that it stands for, of all things, Jay.
  • In Kim Possible, the minor villain Gil remaned himself Gill after becoming a mutant fish person.
  • In an episode of Family Guy, Peter Griffin has to give an alias, so he makes up a Line-of-Sight Name. Owing to a bizarre and improbable selection of objects within his line of sight (a pea, a tear, and a griffon), his alias winds up being "Peter Griffin".

     Real Life 
  • When General Mills revived Fruit Brute and Fruity Yummy Mummy in the 2013 Halloween season, Fruit Brute is renamed Frute Brute, possibly because it can't legally be called "Fruit" any more due to changing USDA truth in labelling standards, hence Frute. Even the retro edition sold exclusively at Target carries the new name.
  • C.J. Cherry sounded like a name for a trashy romance writer, so the science fiction authoress styled herself C.J. Cherrryh.
  • In Real Life, when a cover story is necessary, spies and the like provide a cover story that is similar to their own life to avoid unnecessary slip-ups and cover blowing. When this includes an alias, they usually pick one that sounds similar to their own, so Tom Robinson may go undercover as Tim Robertson, for example. It makes acclimating to the cover story and name as easy as possible.
    • For a specific example, Adolf Eichmann took the alias "Otto Eckmann" when he went underground.
  • Marrying someone who had your same last name could lead to this.


Rolling Updates

Community Feedback Replies: 53
  • September 2, 2013
    DennisDunjinman
    Often a lampshade of Steven Ulysses Perhero.
  • September 2, 2013
    TrueShadow1
    • Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII changed her name to her current one after she lost her parents so that she can be strong. Later her birth name was revealed, Eclair, French for...well, lightning. Only in the Japanese version, in the English version her real name was changed to Claire.
  • September 2, 2013
    paycheckgurl
    • In the Bloody Jack books Jackie ends up working as spy undercover in a ballet in France (Long Story) and picks out a new name so the French don't figure out the legendary lady pirate Jackie Faber is within their boarders. She decides to go with Jacqueline...her fellow dancers quickly shorten it to Jackie.

    • In The Importance Of Being Earnest Jack, an adopted man, refers to himself as Earnest when in town. His love interest feels she can only marry a man named Earnest and can only marry a man with a strong family social standing (which being adopted, Jack does not). After some misunderstandings and Hilarity Ensues, Jack's birth certificate surfaces at the plays's end he was named Earnest all along.
  • September 2, 2013
    MetaFour
    • In one episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000, Tom Servo changes his last name to Serveaux. It's pronounced exactly the same, but Tom thinks he can tell when people aren't pronouncing it right.
  • September 2, 2013
    randomsurfer
    • In the backstory of King Kong 1976 Dawn changed her name to Dwan so it'd be more memorable.

    Professional Wrestling:
    • Lex Luger declared that "Lex Luger is dead!" and came back with a "new" gimmick: The Total Package Lex Luger. No one could tell the difference.
    • The Road Warriors, aka the Legion of Doom (LOD for short), were repackaged in 1998 as LOD 2000. This involved virtually no change in their gimmick other than they got Sunny as a manager.
  • September 2, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added all.
  • September 2, 2013
    UltramarineAlizarin
    Web Video
    • In "The Website Is Down #4: Sales Demolition", Web Dude/Derrick is assigned to update the corporate username of employee Nancy Johnson, who got married and is now named Nancy Johnson-Johnson. All this entails (at least until Derrick gets distracted and screws up) is changing the entry "NancyJ" to "NancyJj".
  • September 2, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added.

    It seems, based on all the examples, that Is This Tropable has been answered with a yes. So, it's being removed.
  • September 3, 2013
    Arivne
    Italicized a couple of work names, put a blank line between each folder to make it easier to read, and put a space between the asterisk and the first word of each example to make it easier to read while editing it.
  • September 3, 2013
    Omeganian
    Lampshaded in the first The Stainless Steel Rat book, when the protagonist manages to find Angelina:
    "The man you wanted to see, Engela." So she was still an angel, though under a different name. That was a bad habit she should watch, only I wasn't going to tell her. A lot of people have been caught by taking an alias too similar to their old one.

  • September 3, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added, though it may need a rewording. I don't like having a description, quote, then more description later. It confuses formatting.
  • September 3, 2013
    Omeganian
    Yes, perhaps adding it as a note at the end of the quote will be better.
  • September 3, 2013
    Duncan
    In the film In The Bleak Midwinter (U.S. title A Winter's Tale), people think that Fadge's name is somewhat odd; eventually she changes it to Fah.
  • September 3, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Omeganian: I don't know how to add notes to tropes. If you could edit your example, though, I could copy it into the draft.
  • September 3, 2013
    Omeganian
    I tried to add it, but, like folders, it doesn't seem to work in YKTTW.
  • September 4, 2013
    aurora369
    There's an old Russian urban legend about a merchant woman named Semizhopova (lit. of Seven Arses). She wrote a petition to Catherine The Great to allow her to change her name. The empress answered: "Five is enough" and changed the merchant's name to Pyatizhopova (of five arses). In other versions of the legend the trolling monarch is Nicholas I or Nicholas II.
  • September 4, 2013
    DAN004
  • September 6, 2013
    NESBoy
    • When General Mills revived Fruit Brute and Fruity Yummy Mummy in the 2013 Halloween season, Fruit Brute is inexplicably renamed Frute Brute. Even the retro edition sold exclusively at Target carries the new name.
    • In the Mega Man Classic Flash animation "Mega Man's Revenge 2", Bass had changed his name to Ass. Yeah, yeah, we know...
  • September 6, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added all the examples.

    I currently am not including the Steven Ulysses Perhero, as well as Secret Public Identity and Secret Identity Identity, because it does not seem like most of the examples really are that similar to these. Only 1 example here has anything to do with supervillain names and such, so it doesn't seem worth putting them in the description.

    If, however, more examples come in, then I'll add them. It just doesn't seem relevant enough right now.
  • September 6, 2013
    SharleeD
    • In Men At Arms, Cheery Littlebottom changes the spelling of her name to "Cheri" after defying dwarf tradition to "come out" as a female. Angua suggests she could pronounce it "Sherie" as well.
  • September 7, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added.
  • September 7, 2013
    TheTitan99
    I'm removing the Needs More Examples. While it could still use more, of course, I think it's passed the point of needed to beg for examples.
  • September 7, 2013
    randomsurfer
    I'd imagine Fruit Brute can't legally be called "Fruit" any more due to changing USDA truth in labelling standards, hence Frute. See also Froot Loops. Fruity Yummy Mummy would get a pass due to the y in "Fruity," implying it's fruit-like but not actually fruit.
  • September 7, 2013
    TheTitan99
    That makes perfect sense, honestly. It sounds just weird enough to be true.

    Regardless of the reason, it fits into this trope, though. If you wanna reword the example, be my guest.
  • September 7, 2013
    randomsurfer
    I'd just remove the word "inexplicably." And maybe add to the end of the example "Possibly because it can't legally be called "Fruit" any more due to changing USDA truth in labelling standards, hence Frute."
  • September 8, 2013
    MetaFour
    For more on that issue, see Lite Creme.
  • September 9, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Changed.
  • September 10, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Yay! A hat! That calls for a YKTTW Bump!
  • September 11, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Yay! Another hat! That calls for a YKTTW Bump!
  • September 11, 2013
    Kain
    In Wicked, Galinda changes her name to Glinda.
  • September 12, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added.
  • September 12, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Linked General Mills to its own page.
  • September 12, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Thank you.
  • September 13, 2013
    TheTitan99
  • September 15, 2013
    MetaFour
    • In an episode of Family Guy, Peter Griffin has to give an alias, so he makes up a Line Of Sight Name. Owing to a bizarre and improbable selection of objects within his line of sight (a pea, a tear, and a griffon), his alias winds up being "Peter Griffin".
  • September 15, 2013
    MonaNaito
    The Simpsons example should be removed, as nobody is actually being renamed...
  • September 15, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added Family Guy example.

    The Simpsons example may not have Homer literally being renamed, but, he didn't know what his real name was. To him, his actual name WAS Homer J Simpson. Learning his real name being Homer Jay Simpson may not be a legal name change, but it's a name change to him personally.
  • September 15, 2013
    remande
    Real Life: C.J. Cherry sounds like a name for a trashy romance writer. So the science fiction authoress styles herself C.J. Cherrryh, and the rest is history.
  • September 15, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added, though reworded a little bit.
  • September 15, 2013
    randomsurfer
    • The Bible:
      • Abram (Hebrew, exalted father) is renamed Abraham (Hebrew, father of many nations) by God.
      • Post-conversion Saul renames himself Paul, which is just the Latin version of the Hebrew name.
    • DC Comics: Three different Robins have gone by the name Red Robin.
    • Pre Crisis Superboy renamed himself Superman while he was in college as shown in the miniseres Superman: The Secret Years.
    • When Henry Pym stopped becoming small and started becoming large, he changed his name from Ant Man to Giant-Man.
  • September 16, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added.
  • September 17, 2013
    Noah1
    • The Matoran Universe in Bionicle does this for its You Mean Xmas equivalent, Naming Day. In addition to the day off and exchanging gifts, certain Matoran would have the spelling of their name slightly altered as a way to thank them for their good deeds. Jala became Jaller note , Huki became Hewkii, and Maku became Macku. Takua, who didn't get this honor, renamed his Ussal Crab Puku into Pewku. The meta reason for such a thing being a big honor is due to LEGO coming under fire for the names of certain Bionicle characters being taken wholesale from Oceanic languages.
  • September 17, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Added folder control.
  • September 17, 2013
    somerandomdude
    In Real Life, when a cover story is necessary, spies and the like provide a cover story that is similar to their own life to avoid unnecessary slip-ups and cover blowing. When this includes an alias, they usually pick one that sounds similar to their own, so Tom Robinson may go undercover as Tim Robertson, for example. It makes acclimating to the cover story and name as easy as possible.

    For a specific example, Adolf Eichmann took the alias "Otto Eckmann" when he went underground.
  • September 17, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Added both.

    Woo-hoo! Only 1 more hat needed!
  • September 17, 2013
    TheTitan99
    I guess now is the time to ask... is there anything this really needs before it can launch? I'll wait for the 5th hat regardless, but, still... does anything come to mind that it may be missing?
  • September 17, 2013
    randomsurfer
  • September 17, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Can't believe I forgot about Mr. Hilter! Added!
  • September 18, 2013
    TheTitan99
  • September 18, 2013
    Nocturna
    Y'know, you can just edit the draft without making changes (open the edit screen and hit save) to bump it; you don't need to make contentless replies.
  • September 18, 2013
    TheTitan99
    I tend to prefer giving replies, even if they're technically pointless. I've found in other YKKTW pages, it's weird when topics just get bumped, but it's hard to tell exactly what changed.
  • September 19, 2013
    DAN004
    ^ Zero edit is better than "YKTTW Bump!!!!11"
  • September 19, 2013
    TheTitan99
    Hmm... Well, I personally prefer it, but, I guess if multiple people are saying it's a bad thing, I guess I'll stop. I don't really see what the problem is, though.

    AND, that being said of trying to avoid pointless messages, this has reached 5 hats. One last call to see if any other little changes are desired. If not, this is launching soon.

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

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