Created By: JonnyB on September 8, 2013 Last Edited By: JonnyB on September 19, 2013
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Pirates Versus Ninjas

For some reason, pirates and ninjas are perennial enemies.

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The eternal battle continues.

Perhaps the most obvious subtrope of Cool vs. Awesome (because as that trope says, pirates are cool, and so are ninjas, so pirates fighting ninjas must be awesome!). Compare also Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot.

Pirates' most hated enemies usually seem to be ninjas, and vice-versa, even though in real life Caribbean pirates and Japanese ninjas didn't even live in the same time period, much less the same hemisphere. Apparently its just for the Rule of Cool.

An Ascended Meme which started out on Real Ultimate Power as a parody movie script and soon took on a life of its own, now appearing in vastly varying media.


Examples:

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Anime and Manga
  • An episode of Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger has all three core members of Ninpuu Sentai Hurricaneger turn up, demanding their powers back. The episode is actually called Pirates vs Ninjas.
  • In the Samurai Champloo episode "Bogus Booty", Mugen (who isn't a stereotypical pirate but has done some 'pirating') squares off against some ninjas.

Fan Work

Film

Live-Action TV
  • Deadliest Warrior averted and defied this trope. While the aim was to solve rivalries like this, they didn't do this one, though both pirate and ninja were featured (Pirate vs Knight and Ninja vs Spartan).

Video Games
  • Saints Row 2 has a minigame where you're a Cop on a reality TV show, and you have to stop randomly generated crimes. One of them is to "Stop the Fight of the Century," which when you arrive at the checkpoint, you find out is a gang of pirates fighting a gang of ninjas.
    "Attention all cars, this is dispatch, we have Pirates vs Ninjas, repeat, Pirates vs Ninjas."
  • On one quest in World of Warcraft ("Our Mortal Enemies") where you've infiltrated a pirate band, the pirates send you on a mission to attack their mortal enemies... ninjas!
  • A Google search reveals multiple Flash games on the theme.
  • There is a game for Nintendo Wii called "Pirates Vs Ninjas Dodgeball".
  • Atari's 1989 game Skull & Crossbones is the Ur-Example; it allowed the players to play as pirates fighting against ninjas.

Web Animation
  • This trope is a major plot point of How to Kill a Mockingbird, where Boo Radley's pirate crew has to battle armies of ninjas in order to uncover the secret to killing the mockingbird.

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Western Animation
  • One episode of the animated TV series Ninjago has the ninjas fight undead pirates.


Community Feedback Replies: 24
  • September 8, 2013
    dalek955
    • In The Adventures Of Doctor Mcninja, according to the doctor, pirates and ninjas originally became rivals because the ninjas thought it would be funny.
      • And the Mc Ninja clan got started when a pirate band attacked Ireland in winter and the villagers counterattacked using frozen four-leaf clovers as shurikens.
  • September 9, 2013
    Arivne
  • September 9, 2013
    JonnyB
    Related to, definitely; not sure if it's a subtrope though.
  • September 9, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    This is already covered by Cool Versus Awesome (which even has Pirates Vs Ninjas as a redirect). I'm not sure if we need this as a subtrope.
  • September 9, 2013
    JonnyB
    I thought that there was enough of this specific kind of Cool Versus Awesome to warrant a breakout. It seems to be a specific meme in itself.
  • September 9, 2013
    DragonQuestZ
    ^ I even suggested that before, and while it didn't go anywhere, that was for lack of trying. No one really seemed to object.
  • September 9, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Since Weblinks Are Not Examples, the Deviant Art example and the short film under Fan Work both fall in the Zero Context Example territory.
  • September 9, 2013
    JonnyB
    ^fixed.
  • September 10, 2013
    XFllo
    ^ Same thing with the wikipedia link. It needs some explanation. And it shouldn't have the second level indentation (double bullets). It makes it look like Conversation On The Main Page. It should be separate because these two are independent articles. See Example Indentation. :-)

    Similarly, the indentation needs to be fixed in the webcomics section.

    • In Show X, example B happens in...
      • And example B occurs when...

    CORRECT:
    • Show X:
      • Example A
      • Example B

    However, we need to established if it's tropeworthy. If it's only a meme, then the article wouldn't be justified because we don't really trope internet memes.

    I have another example, though.

    Web Video
  • September 11, 2013
    JonnyB
    Fixed what you pointed out, and added your example. Appreciate the help.

    I think it's an obvious example of an Ascended Meme. It started out as an Internet meme and has become a trope in its own right.
  • September 11, 2013
    DAN004
    Got something called "Pirates Vs Ninjas Dodgeball", a Wii game. Do we have it here?
  • September 11, 2013
    JonnyB
    Added it, thanks.

    Needs hats now, I think.
  • September 11, 2013
    XFllo
    I hate to be that person who complains all the time, but the examples from the wikipedia and know your meme still have no context. We need a brief summary of that. (Explained here Weblinks Are Not Examples and Explain Your Examples.)

    Ascended Meme sounds about right. I'll hat it once the example write-ups are in Ordnung. :-)

    Others agree that this is tropewhorthy?

  • September 11, 2013
    JonnyB
    My bad on that, I intended to flesh out the Wiki examples and got sidetracked. Fixed. And don't worry, I welcome the constructive criticism.

    Question: If/When this goes live, should the mentions of Pirates vs. Ninjas in Cool Versus Awesome then be removed?
  • September 11, 2013
    DA
    • This trope is a major plot point of How To Kill A Mockingbird, where Boo Radley's pirate crew has to battle armies of ninjas in order to uncover the secret to killing the mockingbird.
  • September 11, 2013
    spacemarine50
    • A ad (think it's for Juicy Drop Pop) had a pirate vs ninja fight it out using said product.
    • (Averted Trope: Even though the aim is to solve rivalries like this, Deadliest Warrior didn't do this one. But both pirate and ninja got featured. note 
      • Host Max Geiger stated that the show would not attempt a Ninja vs Pirate episode because of the inevitable Internet Backdraft.
    • can someone fix the note thing on above?
  • September 11, 2013
    JonnyB
    I think it would have fixed itself when the trope got added. Some tags don't work in YKTTW. I rewrote it in the description though.
  • September 14, 2013
    DAN004
    Does this count?
  • September 14, 2013
    JonnyB
    ^ Do they specifically fight each other? If so, then it probably counts. Although I am unfamiliar with the game, but looking at the description on here, it looks more like it would fit in Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot as they are just part of the mix.
  • September 15, 2013
    Dcoetzee
    Definitely agree that this needs to be broken out as its own trope.
  • September 18, 2013
    DragonQuestZ
    Crop the main part of this picture, use some of the text for the caption, and that could make a kickass page picture.
  • September 19, 2013
    m8e
    Would Samurai Champloo episode 15 "Bogus Booty" count? Mugen isn't a stereotypical pirate, but he have done some 'pirating' in the past. Actually, episode 13 and 14("Misguided Miscreants") shows him returning to this 'pirating'.

    The character page have Pirate in his description.
  • September 19, 2013
    JonnyB
    I haven't seen the episode. Does he fight ninjas in that episode?
  • September 19, 2013
    m8e
    Yes he fight ninjas. The question is if he count as a pirate or not. If he is 'piraty' enough.
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