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Flat Earth Identity
(permanent link) added: 2011-04-14 16:22:38 sponsor: Xzenu (last reply: 2011-11-04 18:40:59)

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Bob live in a setting where the world is in fact round. However, the Earth is flat anyway: Because that's what Bob believe, and he have a right to his own belief! The Earth being flat is part of his identity, so don't you dare invade his personal space by claiming that the world isn't flat. Just like Gravity Is Only a Theory, the shape of the earth or any other fact should be treated as "only a theory". Whatever Bob believe should be treated as at least equally valid, simply out of respect for Bob and his beliefs.

Of course, it doesn't have to be about believing that the earth is flat. Or about believing the world to be round in a setting where it's actually flat. "The shape of the world" can be replaced with any other issue that has a definite answer within the setting. When the issue is the existence or non-existence of God(s), our Bob is either a Flat Earth Atheist or someone who ought to have Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions.

This trope is about arguing that the world should be considered to work in a certain way simply because some people believe it does. When this is taken to the logical extreme, it becomes I Reject Your Reality. If it actually works, it become Clap Your Hands If You Believe.

Compare and contrast Culture Justifies Anything: Both are about bending a worldview to accomodate someone's (real or pretended) beliefs, but this one is about the laws of nature wile the other is about morality.


  • The logic in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster bounces around a lot, sometimes landing in this position.

  • In Beetle Bailey: The Sarge knows the terrain best. Actual terrain be damned.

  • In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, God doesn't exist because man doesn't believe in him. God himself is actually standing right there, but chose to uncreate himself in a puff of logic rather then making a fuss ofer the issue of his existence.

  • Zinnia Jones has several rants about how claims doesn't become true just vecause you believe in them or have a certain faith. Usually targeting Christians.

  • In Flatland, our two-dimensional protagonist "A. Square" refuse to believe in a third dimension of space, making an argument that boils down to him declaring his subjective perception of reality to be objective reality for everyone - including the three-dimensional character Sphere. Eventually Sphere convince him to abandon his foolishness... but then he want to see the fourth dimension as well... a request that make Sphere burst out with the same kind of egocentric ignorance that he had just helped Square to abandon.
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