Created By: thefranDecember 8, 2011 Last Edited By: AgaresJune 29, 2014

Humans VS Aliens VS Monsters

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In a Standard Sci Fi Setting, when an interplanetary conflict occurs, it is often three-way and involves:

  • The humans. You might have heard of guys somewhere. They are whatever humans usually are in sci fi settings.
  • The aliens. They are usually humanoid and very high-tech. Their technologies commonly employ robots, energy control, psionic powers and so on. What they seek from humanity is slavery, obedience, territories and resources. In other words, they want to conquer.
  • The monsters. They can be aliens as well, but aren't necessarily so. They are very rarely humanoid, their technology is mostly organic, they are often mutants or a hive mind species. What they want from humanity and just about everything else is proteins, fats, sugars and water. In other words, they want to eat.

A subtrope of The Good The Bad And The Evil, related to Angels Devils And Squid. See also Melee A Trois

Examples

  • Starcraft has Terrans, Protoss and Zerg.
  • Warhammer40000 has Humans in Imperium and Chaos (the human half of it), Aliens in Tau, Orks and Eldar, and Monsters in Tyranids and Necrons.
  • Maelstrom has Remnants, Ascension, and Hai Genti.
  • Alien Vs Predator has Predators as Aliens, and Aliens as Monsters.
  • Giants: Citizen Kabuto has the Meccaryns (Humans), Sea Reapers (Aliens), and Kabuto (Monster).
  • Halo would fit this, as you have Humans vs. The Covenant (aliens) vs. The Flood (Monsters)
  • Mabinogi has humans, giants and elves as Human, Fomors as Alien, and savage/Fomor-controlled wildlife as Monster.
  • Monsters Vs Aliens.

Community Feedback Replies: 32
  • December 8, 2011
    zarpaulus
  • December 8, 2011
    TechUnadept
    For the supernatural counterpart, see Angels Devils And Squid
  • December 9, 2011
    TBTabby
    Giants: Citizen Kabuto has the Meccaryns (Humans), Sea Reapers (Aliens), and Kabuto (Monster).
  • December 9, 2011
    Koveras
  • December 9, 2011
    Chabal2
    Terminator vs Alien vs Predator.

    How are Tau monsters? Or are you counting Kroot and vespid as monsters? And are Chaos monsters or aliens?
  • December 9, 2011
    Ekuran
    Chaos humans are humans, while Chaos Daemons are monsters.
  • December 9, 2011
    Shnakepup
    Halo would fit this, as you have Humans vs. The Covenant (aliens) vs. The Flood (also aliens but would fit your 'monsters' definitino above since they're very zombie-like and organic).
  • December 9, 2011
    Cider
    I think this is Too Rare To Trope, Star Craft is just humans and aliens for example. Warhammer as way more than 3 factions, Melee A Trois would take most examples anyway.

    Then again, I don't really care for Angel-Devil-Squid either...it seems more like grasping for one Melee A Trois again.(the setup itself is questionable but the page already addresses that)
  • December 9, 2011
    dalek955
    These are roles, not factual descriptions. It's entirely possible for a species to fill the Monsters role despite being aliens. In fact, it's also possible for a species to be Aliens even if all three are from the same planet, and it's possible for several species to share one role.

    • Mabinogi has humans, giants and elves as Human, Fomors as Alien, and savage/Fomor-controlled wildlife as Monster.
  • December 9, 2011
    thefran
    @ How are Tau monsters

    I meant Necrons.

    @ Cider

    No, Starcraft is precisely humans aliens and monsters. Monsters can be aliens in a sense that they come from another planets, it's that there are regular aliens and very freaky monster looking ones. Angels, Demons and Squid is a legitimate trope - it is a thing that occurs.
  • December 9, 2011
    moocow1452
  • December 9, 2011
    dalek955
    Are you saying the trope is taken (wrongly), or are you listing the film Monsters Vs Aliens as an example?
  • December 10, 2011
    thefran
    I'll go with the second option.
  • December 10, 2011
    TonyG
    To expand on it; At first humans are against the monsters and imprison them, despite the fact that they are not particularly hostile. When the aliens show up and prove unstoppable, the humans feel they have crossed the Godzilla Threshold and release the monsters to attack them.
  • December 25, 2011
    dalek955
    Bump.
  • December 25, 2011
    nman
    • Dragon Age Origins: The kossith arrived in Thedas very recently, use gunpowder, cannons and advanced ships, and are slowly trying to seize control of the continent from the humans/elves/dwarves. Meanwhile, a massive army of hive-minded darkspawn is trying to overrun everyone.
  • October 6, 2012
    Noaqiyeum
    Bump.
  • October 6, 2012
    captainpat
    Make sure all the examples make it clear which role each faction takes.
  • January 17, 2013
    dubey
    Stargate could have an example of this, with the Asgard [Hightech aliens], Humans/Jaffa and the Goa'uld [Monsters who only want humans for breeding/slaves]

    Though this would be an aversion
  • January 17, 2013
    robinjohnson
    Isn't this just a sci-fi setting that has more than one sort of aliens, and some of them are Starfish Aliens?
  • January 17, 2013
    arromdee
    I don't think Stargate is an example. Goa'uld generally want to conquer. They may be technically parasites, but they otherwise have familiar motivations and goals.

    Beware of what happened with Five Man Band--we shouldn't squeeze every show into this.
  • January 17, 2013
    McKathlin
    In the Monsters Vs Aliens film, the aliens are high-tech and bent on world domination as this page's description indicates, but the monsters don't match the page description of monsters at all. The film's monsters are mutants, feared by humans yet willing to fight on humanity's behalf. The Monsters Vs Aliens example should mention this, and if this kind of depiction of monsters is common enough in Humans Vs Aliens Vs Monsters, then it bears mentioning in the trope description itself.
  • January 17, 2013
    MetaFour
    Would Outlander be an example, or is that stretching it too far? The humans are ancient Norse. The alien is a Human Alien (in fact, it's implied that humanity is descended from prior colonies of this alien species) Space Marine who joins the Norse and goes native. The monster is a Moorwen, an intelligent carnivore from another planet.
  • June 13, 2014
    DAN004
    I guess the "alien" can sometimes cooperate witbthe "humans", or even be a neutral faction.
  • June 14, 2014
    Snicka
    In the Alien Vs Predator example it should be mentioned that the names of the species are Non Indicative Names, since the species called Aliens are the Monsters rather than the Aliens in this trope's sense.
  • June 14, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ title needs to change then.
  • June 14, 2014
    Snicka
    ^ I think the title is fine. It should just be pointed out that in this one specific example, the term "alien" refers to a monstrous species rather than an advanced hi-tech one, while the "Predators" are less monstrous and more advanced.
  • June 14, 2014
    randomsurfer
    Andromeda: Humans are humans, Nietzscheans (genetically enhanced humans) are the Aliens, and the Magog (creatures which swarm any & all other lifeforms, killing, eating and laying eggs in their corpses) are the Monsters.
  • June 14, 2014
    Snicka
    Monsters Vs Aliens is Zero Context Example; and while its title suggests this trope, the monsters, as explained above, don't fit the description at all (see Mc Kathlin's comment).
  • June 14, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    ^ All of them are Zero Context Examples. Examples need to explain how each faction fits the categories mentioned in the description. Otherwise they are automatically zero-context.
  • June 29, 2014
    MercenX
    Is this up for grabs?
  • June 29, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ looks like it.

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