Created By: MoG2 on July 11, 2011 Last Edited By: FastEddie on August 19, 2011

Hater Playing

Actors in the role of someone who'd hate their race/religion/sexuality/whatever

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A Casting Trope. An actor belonging to group X playing a character who hates X.

Can be divided into several groups:

  • Jews playing Nazis. (There must be a lot of examples around.)
  • Homosexuals playing people who hate gays. (Neil Patrick Harris, Sue Sylvester in Glee)
  • Unconventional people playing squares. (Straw Squares? I guess there must be many examples too, since most actors are rather on the left/liberal end of the political spectrum.)
  • Very rarely however related to skin color, because it wouldn't make sense.
Community Feedback Replies: 23
  • July 11, 2011
    SmashingMelons42
    I could be wrong, but I don't really see how this is a trope unless there's some sort of in-show "wink wink nudge nudge" about it. Based on that, the only example I can think of is a Chappelles Show sketch about a (black) white supremacist.
  • July 11, 2011
    Aielyn
    Mel Brooks is a big fan of having Jews play as Nazis. Any of his movies that have Nazis (or equivalent) in them, they're always played by Jews.
  • July 12, 2011
    Fanra
    • Hogans Heroes. All the major recurring German army characters were portrayed by Jewish actors. (An old story claims that Werner Klemperer would only do the show when assured that the Nazis would never be anything close to successful or competent.) And Robert Clary (Cpl. Lebeau), born Robert Max Widerman, survived Buchenwald. 12 other family members didn't.

    Note that this is averted, as all of the main German characters were not Nazis and would often state their distaste for it. Only the minor characters, and only one reoccurring one (Major Hochstetter of the Gestapo), were Nazis.
  • July 12, 2011
    Bisected8
    This overlaps with N Word Privileges; if someone group A discriminates against plays a member of group A then they can't be accused of glorifying them.
  • July 12, 2011
    DaibhidC
    Apparently, this was common in contemporary WWII movies; the actors with convincing German accents in the US and UK were people who'd been forced to flee Germany.
  • July 12, 2011
    Aminatep
    One Christian martyr, I don't remember which, used to be a Roman actor playing a Christian in a comedy mocking them, but got converted, leaving to him announcing his faith during that very play and being executed immediately.
  • July 12, 2011
    Trotzky
    Konrad Weidt Major Strasser in Casa Blanca.
  • July 12, 2011
    FastEddie
    Hater Playing works for a title. This one is too long.
  • July 12, 2011
    SonofRojBlake
    Anton Diffring left Germany before the war under mysterious circumstances possibly related to his homosexuality, and was best known for playing Nazi officers.
  • July 13, 2011
    AgProv
    Warren Mitchell - a Jewish actor- played uberracist and default anti-semitic Alf Garnett in 'Series/'Till Death Us Do Part''. I know nothing of the actor who did Archie Bunker in the American version.
  • July 23, 2011
    MoG2
    OK, we can call it Hater Playing, and we also have enough examples. I may start this soon.
  • July 23, 2011
    hotrods4ben
    Would this be a Trivia trope?
  • July 23, 2011
    69BookWorM69
    Sir Ian McKellen played a Nazi in Apt Pupil.
  • July 24, 2011
    terrafox
    • Alec Baldwin, whose well known opinion of corporations is summed up by the Corrupt Corporate Executive page, plays a corporate exec in 30Rock with a huge dose of "wink-wink, nudge-nudge".
  • July 24, 2011
    Jordan
    This is pretty much an omnipresent trope, isn't it? I mean you couldn't expect that Casablanca would have actual Nazis would you? And I would think rightly, Neo-Nazis and various supremacists probably don't get a lot of acting work (and I wouldn't know if there are any great racist actors whose talent the world is missing).

    I'd think if this was a trope, it would have to be restricted to the very nudgy examples like Sue Sylvester.
  • July 24, 2011
    Premonition45
    Played for laughs in a Simpsons episode as Duffman is at an Oktoberfest, he says "This Reich will last a thousand beers! Oh, Ja!". But under his breath, he mutters "I do this, and I'm Jewish...".
  • August 11, 2011
    MoG2
    @Jordan: A Communist, Jew or homosexual (and maybe Slav) playing a nazi would be this trope, someone who's just "not a nazi" isn't.
  • August 11, 2011
    JonnyB
    • Henry Gibson (Jewish) played a neo-Nazi in The Blues Brothers.
    • Mel Brooks (Jewish) played Hitler in a couple of his comedies.
    • Besides Hogans Heroes, Werner Klemperer also played a Nazi in the movie, Judgement at Nuremberg.
  • August 11, 2011
    Bruxist
    An amusing subversion in a Polish comedy film Vabank 2: one of the German soldiers the villains encounter on their escape from Poland turns out to be a German actor living in Poland, who always gets cast as a German and is quite annoyed that he never gets a chance to be the good guy. His German accent kills any chances he might have at playing a Pole...
  • August 11, 2011
    Duncan
    Troper Tales: The first production of one of my plays had an Israeli playing a Nazi, a Muslim playing a Jew, a Gay guy playing a semi-homophobe, and a Straight guy playing his Gay brother.
  • August 11, 2011
    Heatherly
    Oded Fehr, a Jewish Israeli actor and former member of the IDF, played Faris al-Farik, a Muslim Saudi Arabian terrorist, in the show Sleeper Cell. (He even commented on this phenomenon himself, noting in an interview with TV Guide, "Playing Farik was so challenging. I'm just the opposite: a peace-loving Jewish guy!")
  • August 11, 2011
    oztrickster
    Which Neil Patrick Harris character was homophobic? the character on How I Met Your Mother isn't homophobic.
  • August 19, 2011
    MoG2
    I thought about Harold And Kumar.

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