Created By: crazysamaritan on December 8, 2013 Last Edited By: crazysamaritan on March 25, 2015
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Administrivia/ How To Write An Example # Emphasis For Work Names

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How to Write an Example entry: (modify existing entry)
  • State the source: The name of the work the example comes from should be clearly stated, ideally near the beginning of the example. Work names require emphasis, and should also be put under the proper namespace (ex. ''VideoGame/TombRaider'' will give you Tomb Raider, ''Film/{{Titanic}}'' will give Titanic). Listing a character name, episode name, or actor's name is no substitute for the series name. (No, not even if you Pot Hole it.) Listing a well known quote and leaving it at that is also clumsy. Being clever is always fun but being clear is much more important. Author's names are also acceptable when referring collectively to multiple series by them.
    • Emphasis For Work Names: Most works are considered "Long Works", and their names should be bracketed by two apostrophes (''), which render the work in italic font. Short works like individual songs, essays or chapters use "quotes". There is no emphasis used when referring to personas, sacred texts, and works by a name other than their franchise name. When in doubt, it is better to use italics, and have it fixed later. Italics help to differentiate the work name from other blue links.
    • State the Word Of God source (unchanged)
    • Be Specific (unchanged)

How To Create A Work Page FAQ section:
  • What emphasis do I use for the title?:
    Whatever you do, it does not belong in boldface-font. Most works are in italic fonts, made by typing ''italic fonts''. Shorter works have "quote marks" around them, and a select group have no emphasis added at all. For more information, read How To Write An Example#EmphasisForWorkNames.


Welcome to TV Tropes Editing Articles folder:

  • There is a Standard English way to format examples. Titles of films, series, and albums are italicized. Use two separate apostrophes around the title: ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' for The Price Is Right. Titles of shorter works, such as episodes and songs, are in quotes: "Ride of the Valkyries". Only a few works have no emphasis, and none have boldface font. See How To Write An Example#EmphasisForWorkNames for details. Really, take a look at it.

Community Feedback Replies: 33
  • December 8, 2013
    Koveras
    I think this is a good idea, but I am not sure whether it warrants a separate page, or should be lumped with a more general editing guideline (if we have one).
  • December 8, 2013
    crazysamaritan
    How To Write An Example doesn't have anything about emphasis for work names, and anchor points don't work, so there wouldn't be a way to wick a Predefined Messages in the Edit Reasons.

  • December 8, 2013
    kjnoren
    I think this should rather be part of a general style guide for TV Tropes. How To Write An Example is a starting point for that. I also think we have too many pages under Administrivia, too poorly sorted.

    Just looked, and this looks exactly like it should be part of Text Formatting Rules.
  • December 8, 2013
    crazysamaritan
    Administrivia.Text Formatting Rules tells editors how to use the mark-up code. It doesn't actually explain when it should be used. Administrivia.How To Write An Example is the better page. I'll edit the draft to include a section to go in there, but I still think this needs to go under Predefined Messages, as well.
  • December 8, 2013
    MorganWick
    Is there any work page not in the Recap/ namespace that one would use quotes for?
  • December 9, 2013
    kjnoren
    ^ Short stories and essays, like "A Modest Proposal" or "The Cold Equations".
  • December 9, 2013
    Arivne
    The Editing Articles folder in Welcome To TV Tropes has this:


    There is a standard way to format examples. Titles of films, shows, and albums are italicized. Use two separate apostrophes around the title: The Price Is Right for The Price Is Right. Titles of episodes and songs are in quotes: "Brittle Bullet." See How To Write An Example for details. Really, take a look at it.
  • December 9, 2013
    Prfnoff
    The FAQ on How To Create A Works Page should at least point out that titles aren't supposed to be boldfaced.
  • December 10, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    To be honest, I think a note (they probably exist already) on one of the existing policy pages covers this perfectly.
  • December 10, 2013
    crazysamaritan
    Arivne linked and quoted the entire set of rules this wiki has.

    ((Also, most of the draft is notes for other policy pages))
  • December 17, 2013
    NESBoy
    Is not italicizing a work with a Character Title okay if used in reference to the character him/herself?

    Example:
  • December 18, 2013
    Arivne
    ^ From How To Write An Example - State the source:

    "The name of the work the example comes from should be clearly stated, ideally near the beginning of the example...Listing a character name, episode name, or actor's name is no substitute for the series name. (No, not even if you Pot Hole it.)"

    So the work's name should be separate and clear, like so:

    • Harry Potter. Harry Potter tells Ron and Hermione about the recent developments.
  • December 18, 2013
    NESBoy
    Okay, how about if a character from one work appears in another?

    Examples:
  • December 20, 2013
    AlphaDog13
    what about a section that explains about stock phases... since I ran into that problem, although the recent one wouldn't count since the trope namer in there calmly answered the question before being reminded of his role.
  • December 27, 2013
    Arivne
    I just realized that we have no guidance for poems. I would suggest treating them as appropriate for their length. Short poems (which is most of them) would be in quotes, long epic poems would be in italics.
  • December 27, 2013
    crazysamaritan
    ^^^ From the State the source rule, I'd say those were all incorrect. Kirby and Sonic are regular characters in Super Smash Bros, so there's no need to link their franchises. Peter arm-wrestled the titular character of Popeye, while the picnic-loving bear from Yogi Bear served him drinks.

    ^^ This is about works pages, not trope pages.

    ^ I wasn't being exhaustive because I think listing every work type would make the page unreadable. But do you think poems are enough of an exception to warrant explicit instruction?
  • December 29, 2013
    MetaFour
    "But do you think poems are enough of an exception to warrant explicit instruction?"

    I'd say they are. Also, we have enough novels and short stories on the wiki that they ought to be mentioned in the OP writeup as well.
  • December 29, 2013
    crazysamaritan
    We have "enough" pinball machines, video games, and weboriginal works, too. That argument leads to listing every work type.
  • December 31, 2013
    MetaFour
    I don't see a problem with making an exhaustive list. Especially since I frequently see people incorrectly format the titles of extremely common media, like novels and music albums.
  • January 1, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    Because tropers have been incorrectly emphasizing works, I thought this page was important to create, and incorporating references across the Administrivia pages.

    Here is the exhaustive list of Long Works, as far as I am aware exist:
    • Advertising Campaigns
    • Games
    • Animated movies/shows/shorts
    • Radio shows
    • Podcast channels
    • Audio-only stories
    • Blogs
    • Movies / Films
    • Comics (Comic books, comic strips, and webcomics)
    • Fan-made Fictional stories
    • Franchise names
    • Let's Play groups
    • Magazine titles
    • Machinima
    • Graphic novels / Manga / Manhua / Manhwa
    • Albums
    • Pinball machines
    • Concerts
    • Theme Park Rides
    • Roleplay communities/campaigns
    • TV series
    • Theatre Plays, Operas, and Musicals
    • Toylines
    • Novels (traditional, eBook, Lightnovel, Video novels)
    • Websites
    • Sculptures
    • Paintings
    • Newspapers
  • January 7, 2014
    Telcontar
    This is a very small guideline for an easy-to-fix problem. I really don't think it warrants a whole page; rather, we can add explicit notes to several pages, inclucing How To Write An Example and possibly Text Formatting Rules. The note on Welcome To TV Tropes is good.

    Anchor points do work on How To Write An Example, they just sometimes show up as redlinks (but not in edit reasons, at least at the moment). Example: I frequently link to How To Write An Example#KeepItAnExample when removing some items. The same thing could be done when we make a bullet point for this guide.
  • January 7, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    Ah! That does show as blue!

    On everywhere else, forum posts, pages, and here, it shows up as a Red Link. I never knew it worked in the edit reasons.
  • January 7, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    I've finished changing the draft from a page to an entry under How To Write An Example. How does it look, now?
  • June 3, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    Bump: looking for approval to make the edits.
  • June 3, 2014
    TonyG
    What about theatrical shorts? Would the series name (say, Looney Tunes) be the long work and the individual shorts within them (say, "Duck Amuck") be short works? Or could the individual shorts be also considered long works? I imagine that stand alone shorts would be considered long works.
  • June 3, 2014
    crazysamaritan
    Although they're called shorts, in this case they'd also be termed long works, except when they're referenced as part of a collection. That's also the rule that applies to Short Stories.

    So the Looney Tunes short "Duck Amuck" is also referenced as the Theatrical Short Duck Amuck.

    Have you read the short story Liar!? It was collected in I Robot and called "Liar!". Grok the pattern?
  • June 29, 2014
    MercenX
    I wonder if there is some Truth In Television to this in that shaking one's head enough can cause disorientation which may be used to stir up memories by association through sensation. One does not necessarily have to remember being shaken.
  • September 28, 2014
    Prfnoff
    This has five hats. The edits should have been made already.
  • September 28, 2014
    SeptimusHeap
    I pulled a hat, because while the writeups for the rest of the articles is fine, the writeup for How To Write An Example is far too long.

    Replacing the parenthese "(if you're not sure which to use, see what someone else did for a work in the same medium)" with "(Italics for works, "quotes" for short works like songs, essays or chapters and no emphasis at all for personas, sacred texts and works that are referred not by their franchise name)" is sufficient. Making the text longer will not render it more effective, and it's an issue too minor to warrant 4 long bullet points especially given that most of that text is unnecessary.
  • March 24, 2015
    crazysamaritan
    I took the part of your advice which said I shouldn't use four bullets, and condensed it into one subbullet of State the source. I'll grant that I was probably going overboard, but a single line in parentheticals is not conducive to making the rule easily found.
  • March 24, 2015
    SeptimusHeap
    Huh. A parens for me is always a clearly delimited rule. Style preferences, I guess?
  • March 24, 2015
    crazysamaritan
    I think so.
  • March 25, 2015
    FuzzyBoots
    This got launched as a blank page.
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