Created By: VictorDamazio on January 24, 2013 Last Edited By: VictorDamazio on January 29, 2013
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Multimillion-Dollar Failure

Millions of dollars spent on the production of the movie, yet everyone seems to hate anyway

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Hollywood is the ultimate proof that it doesn't matter how much money you spend to make something, without human talent, the money doesn't mean nothing, so, there are many, many examples of media works, that had high or even astronomic budgets, yet, they met with huge disapproval both from the public and the professional critics.

This is very common in films, after all, the most important part of a movie is the script, and that requires only papers, a pencil and a talented mind, yet it is still kinda overlooked by executives that decide what movies will be made and how, often accompanied by trying to make an adaptation that simply won't work in a new medium, this can also happen thanks to a Troubled Production.

Not all of those examples are necessarily bad however, there are some works that were considered decent and have their fans, yet it's amazing to see so much money being spent on something that it's just OK or divides opinions.

Not to be confused with Box Office Bomb, where the movie is a financial failure, but not necessarily a reception failure.

Since this is an Audience Reaction page, to prevent flame wars and personal opinions, most examples should have only the title, the budget, and two collective ratings (Tomatometer, Metascore), one from professional critics, and one from the public, don't remove an example just because you like it and don't add something just because you personally hate, just add examples where there's a huge dissonance between the production values and the general opinion of people, also, the score from the critics and the public shouldn't be much different, to prove there is no Critical Dissonance.

Films

  • Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever - Budget: US$70 million | Tomatometer: 0% | Audience: 25% liked it
  • Batman & Robin - Budget: US$125 million | Tomatometer: 12% | Audience: 28% liked it
  • Batman Forever - Budget: $100 million | Tomatometer: 41% | Audicence: 42% liked it
  • Battlefield Earth - Budget: US$44 million | Tomatometer: 2% | Audience: 14% liked it
  • Cars 2 - Budget: US$200 million | Tomatometer: 39% | Audience: 54% liked it
  • Catwoman - Budget: US$100 million | Tomatometer: 9% | Audience: 34% liked it
  • Showgirls - Budget: US$45 million | Tomatometer: 14% | Audience: 35% liked it
  • Stealth - Budget: US$138 million | Tomatometer 13% | Audience: 48% liked it
  • The Adventures of Pluto Nash - Budget: US$100 million | Tomatometer: 6% | Audience: 19% liked it
  • Waterworld - Budget: US$175 million (Most expensive movie at the time it was made) | Tomatometer: 43% | Audience: 46% liked it
  • Wild Wild West - Budget: US$170 million | Tomatometer: 21% | Audience: 39% liked it
Community Feedback Replies: 39
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Has potential, it is tropeworthy, looks easy to make, the most important is adding more examples, and I found a way to avoid flame wars.

    Just need to know now if this exists already.

    Edit: To make easier to add film examples, follow this pattern:

    [[LinkToTVTropesPage Title]] - Budget: US$X million | Tomatometer: [[LinkToRottenTomatoesPage X%]] | Audience: X% liked it
  • January 24, 2013
    StarSword
    Film:
    • Stealth - Budget: US$138 million | Tomatometer 13%, worldwide box office US$77 million
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yeah, I guess the box office can be posted too.
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Nope, Box Office Bomb means financial failure, this means critical failure.

    Some movies listed here were successful at the box office, but still considered bad.
  • January 24, 2013
    StarSword
    This isn't really a trope. It's a Trivia item.
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yep, it's trivia.

    Trivia pages can't be here?

    Edit: No, it isn't trivia, it's audience reactions.
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Changed my mind again, better not add the box office, after all, we're talking about failure at the reception, not at the box office, and box office bomb is sometimes a vague term because it only covers the money earned on theaters and not on the home videos.
  • January 24, 2013
    StarSword
    ^^No, they can, I'm just saying it for clarity's sake. When launched, this goes on the trivia tab.
  • January 24, 2013
    StarSword
    Also, minor stylistic advice: I think the budget numbers look better as "x million" rather than with a string of zeroes.
  • January 24, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    ^OK, thanks.
  • January 24, 2013
    mew4ever23
    This is probably going to end up being very much YMMV as well - just because the critics don't like it, doesn't there aren't people who do enjoy it. I personally very much enjoyed Pirates 3.
  • January 24, 2013
    captainpat
    I don't think we need another complaining page.
  • January 25, 2013
    Arivne

  • January 25, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    Yeah, unlike Box Office Bomb this is an Audience Reaction. And a complainy one at that.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yep, it's another Audience Reaction page.

    But keep it please, I think it has potential, and I'm not making this YKTTW to complain, I never watched some movies posted here.
  • January 25, 2013
    Larkmarn
    Needs a new name. I can't for the life of me figure out why it's Millionaire.
  • January 25, 2013
    robinjohnson
    Million Dollar Lemon?

    • In an early episode of The Simpsons, Homer's millionaire car tycoon half-brother Herb puts Homer in charge of designing a new car, thinking that an everyman will know what the people really want. The car puts the company out of business and makes Herb homeless.

    Edit: oh, I thought this was an in-universe thing for some reason.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Million Dollar Lemon? Is this a term? Does it have any meaning?
  • January 25, 2013
    robinjohnson
    A lemon is a term for a commercial failure. But it took a couple of tries to Google, so maybe not as widely understood as I thought.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yep, then it's not a good name because the page means reception failure, not commercial failure.

    Maybe another word that defines reception failure is better.
  • January 25, 2013
    StarSword
    Millions Spent; Critically Crap?
  • January 25, 2013
    marcoasalazarm
    This is definitely a 'Trivia' Trope. Especially if it just focuses on 1) the money spent on the movie, 2) the money obtained by showing the movie (which probably doesn't includes DVD sales, but that's besides the point), and 3) the general consesnus that it was not a good movie-or So Good It's Average, or So Bad It's Good, but seriously not worth the money spent on it (like the votes at Rotten Tomato).
  • January 25, 2013
    captainpat
    Rotten Tomatoes scores or metacritic scores are not always general consensus. I'm still not seeing a point to this page. "a select group of people thought this high budget movie was bad" doesn't sound like a worthwhile page.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Ah, I forgot to say, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End, is the most expensive film ever made to this date, and that's the point of the page, I know that a lot of people like this movie, but seeing so many people hate it even tough it had such a high budget is the point of this page.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    ^^ Yeah, how about switching to IM Db then? There the users can pick their ratings.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Changed my mind, Rotten Tomatoes also has an audience meter.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    There, now the page has also the Rotten Tomatoes score from the users.

    Sure, the score can also be flawed, since anyone can go there and give a rating just to raise and lower it for it's own intentions, but I can't see any better way to know the average opinion of the public.
  • January 25, 2013
    Talvieno
    I like this for trivia pages... It has a good name, too. However, just a thought - might you include other things besides movies? Things like TV series and video games, for example. Duke Nukem Forever would fall into this category, as the developers spent around $30 million on it, and it was a total flop, for the most part.

    As to movies, a couple of possibles: "Sucker Punch" ($82 mil, 24%) and "Resident Evil: Retribution" ($65 mil, 31%).
  • January 25, 2013
    SeptimusHeap
    A few clarifications:
    1. If it's about box office returns, it's Trivia.
    2. If it's about critical receptions, opinion of the public or any other permutation of this, it's an Audience Reaction. No exceptions.
    3. "Negative" Audience Reactions AKA complaining pages are not wanted in YKTTW.

    How do these apply to this page?
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yep, it is about Audience Reactions.

    But I'm trying my best so this page won't be a complaining page.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    ^^^ Yes, I also want other mediums in there, like TV Shows and Games, but those are harder to find the real budgets.

    I was looking for the PS3 game "Lair", I think it had a huge budget but still was hated.
  • January 25, 2013
    captainpat
    "Millions of dollars spent on the production of the movie, yet it still sucks"

    This is complaining.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    ^ It's just the laconic version.

    But thanks anyway, going to edit.
  • January 25, 2013
    JonnyB
    Agreed that title needs work. Has nothing to do with millionaires.
  • January 25, 2013
    Larkmarn
    I'm increasingly feeling like this doesn't really need to be included... there's a kernel of a trope in here (almost an aesop about how spending money on something doesn't necessarily make it better... do we have that one?), but as-is this doesn't seem... worthwhile.

    And the name is still completely inexplicable.
  • January 25, 2013
    VictorDamazio
    Yeah, it really needs a better name, but it's very hard to think of one.
  • January 25, 2013
    Larkmarn
  • January 25, 2013
    spacemarine50
    The trope must be broadened if that name happens.
  • January 29, 2013
    Catbert
    Another complaining audience reaction. We don't need it.
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