Created By: JoeBentley on November 25, 2011

How Did We Get Here from There?

When a franchise finds itself in a radically different genre or with a radically different tone then where it began.

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Surely at some point if you take parts 2-9 away, it's hard to imagine how Parts 1 and 10 can be part of the same franchise.

Case in Point:

Friday the 13th Part 1: An almost Agatha Christie style murder mystery where a bunch of camp consulars are killed by off one by one by the revenged crazed mother of a young disabled boy that died at the camp years before.

Friday the 13th Part X: A undying hulking zombie gets unfrozen in the future, turned into a cyborg, and fights a Fembot and a bunch of Space Marines on a Space Ship.
Community Feedback Replies: 14
  • November 25, 2011
    Tuomas
    This is Genre Shift. As mentioned on that page, it can apply to a change of genres between a work and its sequel(s).
  • November 25, 2011
    Spitfire71
    Isn't this Cerberus Syndrome or something related? I Swear We Have This. But in case we don't, I have another example.

    • The original Dragonball anime was more of an action/adventure show with some bits of fighting (think One Piece). Dragonball Z, on the other hand, is the anime equivalent to a Beat 'Em Up video game: it makes liberal use of the Sorting Algorithm Of Evil, and in the few episodes where someone isn't fighting, they're either preparing for the next fight, recovering from the last one, or running away from one that's inevitably going to happen in a couple of episodes because they aren't fully prepared or recovered.
  • November 26, 2011
    Abodos
    I'd say that Cerebus Syndrome and Genre Shift are Sub Tropes of this; a work can have its premise drastically change without a change in genre or tone.

    • Doctor Who started off as a time travel show meant to educate viewers about history, with the more science fictiony stories being more sporadic. Eventually, the science fictiony stories became what distinguished the series.
  • November 26, 2011
    Insignificant
  • November 28, 2011
    Abodos
    Maybe something along the lines of Premise Shift?
  • November 28, 2011
    randomsurfer
    In Universe, in a Flash Forward episode of The Simpsons set in 2010.
    Marge: Fox turned into a hardcore sex channel so gradually I didn't even notice.
  • November 29, 2011
    Tuomas
    I'd say that Cerebus Syndrome and Genre Shift are Sub Tropes of this; a work can have its premise drastically change without a change in genre or tone.

    Then the description needs to be edited, as it specifically mentions change of genre or tone, and those are covered by Genre Shift and Cerebus Syndrome.
  • November 29, 2011
    oztrickster
    Early Installment Weirdness seems to be this trope.
  • January 11, 2013
    Thecommander236
    That sounds more like the opposite. Ealry Installment Weirdness is when the BEGINNING was weird and screwed up. Friday the 13th was a regular horror/mystery. Part X was a horror/sci-fi. Think about Jason for a second. Does a mentally handicapped zombie-man-child who somehow grow into a giant AFTER he died seem to fit in a Sci-Fi movie? Said giant somehow possessed his mother (her vocal chords somehow sounding like his voice when he was a kid) and seemed to have a relationship that smelled vaguely of incest. That is too silly even for Warhammer 40 K and that's saying a lot.
  • January 11, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    An abrupt genre shift within a single work:

    Film

    From Dusk Till Dawn started as a movie about a creepy serial-killer type hijacking a motorhome with a family and taking them to Mexico. About halfway through, it abruptly turns into a vampire movie.
  • January 15, 2013
    randomsurfer
  • January 15, 2013
    Chernoskill
    This trope is about entire franchises, not about single movies. So FDTD would not fit here.
  • January 15, 2013
    TonyG
    @Thecommander236: Early Installment Weirdness doesn't mean that the series starts weird; it's that the early installments seem weird compared to the latter installments.
  • January 15, 2013
    Thecommander236
    So what would differentiate that from this?

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