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'''If there is no objection, this article will be launched in roughly 24 hours.'''In a Betty and Veronica love triangle, the Betty somehow becomes the Veronica, and vice versa. This can happen in two different ways :
- The Reveal : The sweet, homely Betty is actually Cute But Psycho, and the haughty, fascinating Veronica is actually a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. Archie was a Horrible Judge of Character all along, and really should run before his "wholesome", "soft-headed" girlfriend smashes his brain out with a spoon.
- Character Development (see Hourglass Plot) : Though character developpment, the inaccessible, Tall, Dark and Snarky love interest becomes a sweet pile of cuteness, and the viewers discover that the BoyNextDoor and the Nice Girl Took a Level in Badass and possibly in meanness.
Examples:Anime and Manga
- In the Princess Tutu anime, Fakir appears at first as a male Tsundere, and Mytho the Prince has a case of Chronic Hero Syndrome. They were respectively the Veronica and Betty to Ahiru's Archie Of course until Mytho's heart shard was tainted with the Crow's blood and he becomes evil and potentially violent, and Fakir is seen as the friend and confident who does everything he can to protect Ahiru.
- In the Archie Comics, the Betty becomes a Veronica when she tries to murder Archie out of spite. For Veronica, despite having mistaken herself for a romantic novel heroine after a knock on the head, she never did such a thing, and thus gets the title of Betty in the trope namer for this kind of triangles.
- In Blood And Chocolate, this happens too. The sweet human boyfriend, Aiden, has a case of Fantastic Racism and does a Face-Heel Turn which leaves only the other Love Interest as a worthy pretendant for the heroine.
- Daniel Deronda may make this Older Than Radio. Mirah is jewish, an outcast with an artistic and melancholy disposition, Gwendolene is charming, well-liked and christian. Gwendolene is also too self-involved, though in an understandable and harmful way, while Mirah is sweet and innocent.
- In Harry Potter, this happens with Severus Snape (initially Lily's unpopular best friend on the verge of becoming a Victorious Childhood Friend) and James Potter (initially a Jerk Jock whom she disapproves). She then discovers that James became a Lovable Jock because he Took a Level in Kindness and that Severus is affected with Fantastic Racism.
- Jane Austen loved writing novels where this occurs :
- In Pride and Prejudice, this happens to Elizabeth's love interests, subjectively.
- Mansfield Park has an interesting unmentioned objective variation for the heroine and antiheroine, a quietly depressed, meek andforgiving Love Martyr Woobie and a manipulative, charming-but-dangerous Gold Digger. Turns out the first becomes an Iron Woobie who won't let the others's mean preoccupations go against her morals and knows perfectly well that the treatment born by her gender is unfair, and the other falls in love, wangsts, and consider abandonning her ambitions and also losing integrity. The hero chooses the new Veronica, who throws a proto-feminist speech in his face, making the work Fair for Its Day.
- Moonlight has Kayla with Mason and Lucas. She sees Mason as a Nice Guy and Lucas as a less kind and harmless person. However, the readers can see from early on that Mason is a Manipulative Bastard who is insulting to his rival and tries to make Kayla drunk, while Lucas ignores him and is simply kind to her, but has intimidating manners. It must be acknowledged once Mason does a Face Heel Turn.
- The The Summer I Turned Pretty trilogy by Jenny Han revolves around the heroine Belly's romances with the sons of her mother's best friend. In the beginning, Conrad was the aloof bad boy while Jeremiah was the Nice Guy. In the last book, Jeremiah has become a somewhat obnoxious frat boy who cheats on Belly. Meanwhile, Conrad is mature and studious (and also gets the girl at the end.) Belly only saw them on family vacations in the summer so she's unsure if they (especially Jeremiah) were always like that and she never saw it or if they actually changed.
- Twilight has Jacob and Edward, reaching It Was His Sled status. In book 1, they are respectively the kind younger friend and someone who was Maddened Into Misanthropy by his Dark and Troubled Past and may and may not be a case of "I Am A Humanitarian". But in book 2, Jacob becomes a violent and confident muscular hunk who has Hair-Trigger Temper and Crazy Jealous Guy tendancies, and Edward is the reliable boyfriend who ends up leaving her for what he summarizes in the end as I Want My Beloved to Be Happy.
- In The Dark Knight Rises, it happens between Selina Kyle and Miranda Tate, Bruce Wayne's other Love Interest. One is apparently a sweet clean energy champion, the other is a burglar. The latter saves him despite having been The Mole, the other is The Man Behind the Man.
- The twist in Jim Carrey's The Mask. The mousy coworker is actually a spy for the villain, the seemingly exotic dame he met at a club is actually much more centered than she first appeared.
- Glee apparently has Rachel as Betty and Quinn as Veronica to Finn's Archie. This is subverted in the episode "Original Songs," when Quinn explains to Rachel that, however things might appear, she, Quinn, is actually the girl-next-door whom Finn will end up settling for, and Rachel is really the unattainable fantasy dream-girl.
- In the BBC's Robin Hood series Marian had the choice between Robin and Guy, who were quickly revealed to be more than they first appeared. Guy is conservative and law-abiding (Betty) but also dangerous and a torturer (Veronica), whereas Robin was an outlaw and a thief (Veronica) but also Marian's childhood sweetheart, Robin Hood, and much more in love than he first appeared (Betty).
- It can also be argued to happen between Isabella and Kate for Robin. The first may be the seductive artistocratic and morally ambiguous antagonist and Angry Sheriff's Beautiful Sister and Kate the Farm Girl who joined the outlaws, but Isabella is a Tragic Villain who tries to get rid of her rival by diminuishing Robin's trust in her... while the Farm Girl simply tries to kill the noble-born rival. Unlike Isabella, Kate didn't have the excuse of growing paranoid due to years of abuse by a sadistic husband, so the line is at least blurred.
- In The Secret Circle, the live-action adaptation of the book series, Cassie initially appears to be a timid and shy Girl Next Door. For Diana, she is a confident and mature witch. As the series progresses, Cassie becomes more extroverted, ambitious, and willing to use her dark magic, but Diana grows more isolated and more cautious about the consequences of their actions. The point is driven home when Diana learns that she has dark magic as well. She makes it very clear that she will not be as reckless with it as Cassie is. This is in contrast to their initial characterizations, Cassie desiring to stay away from the circle, and Diana to embrace their birthright as witches. Adam's interests tend towards which girl is more The Veronica at any given time. He is initially dating Diana, (she is a Victorious Childhood Friend), they break up as the personality shift starts, and he starts dating Cassie a few episodes later.
- It happened in True Blood, following Erik's amnesia (which ended up turning him into an Adult Child, and then into something closer from a Nice Guy) and Bill's acquisition of the title of King (which ended up making him a powerful authoritative villain). The first had Hair of Gold all along, and the second has brown hair from the beginning, so they both ended up filling their new function better than before.
- It happened in the third series of The Vampire Diaries to Damon and Stefan (the former becomes more caring in some scenes, and tries to redeem himself in the eyes of his beloved, the latter gets his emotions switched off and becomes a villain).
- The versions of the myth of the knight Pelleas (from the Arthurian legend) sometimes feature this. Pelleas falls in love with the lady Ettarde. She then pretends to reciprocate in order to have him win something for her in a tornament. She pushes him away when she has it, but he thinks it is all a test and comes to visit her every day. Growing annoyed, she puts him in her gaol and frees him every day. Pelleas then meets Gawain, who decides to help him by visiting Ettarde and later opening the gates, but Gawain falls in love with her, she reciprocates, and he does not follow his vow and Pelleas discovers it. Then, the different versions of the myth diverge :
- A)Either Pelleas goes in his tent, becomes depressed, and is saved by a sweet, ethereal-looking Lady Of The Lake, Elaine, who reveals that she has very powerful magical powers (and a lot of Hidden Depths when she curses who she believes to be her rival, while Pelleas has fallen in love with herself and forgotten Ettarde), Ettarde finds out Gawain's original plan and, furious with him, regrets Pelleas.
- B)... either Pelleas grows mad with rage, and becomes the Red Knight, devoted to prove the hypocrisy of Arthur's court.
- Dragon Age 2 has Merrill and Isabela. The first one is a Cloud Cuckoo Lander with No Social Skills with innocent looking puppy eyes while the other is a promiscuous pirate more open about her preference than the other companions. However, one turns out to be a Blood Mage trying to save her people via consequentialistic methods while the other is a Broken Bird trying to cope with the memory of Parental Abandonment and can be persuaded to fully commit to love.
- In the backstory of Digital Devil Saga, Serph Sheffield appears to care for Sera, but in reality he's a Manipulative Bastard and regards her as little more than a tool for his own gain. Heat O'Brien genuinely cares for her in spite of his hostile exterior. Serph's murder of Heat causes Sera to realise the truth.
- For Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog, Penny has Dr Horrible, the sweet and troubled Mad Scientist with Hair of Gold, and Jerkass Handsome Lech Dumb Muscle Flying Brick Heteronormative Crusader (goes in anoter room, cooks a sandwitch, and eats it as the insults are detailed further) Knight Templar Captain Hammer. Doctor Horrible becomes a straight-up villain and Hammer remains his extreme and offensive but well-meaning self.
- Not a surprise given the source material, but, for Lizzie in The Lizzie Bennet Diaries, Wickham is The Woobie, The Charmer and a Lovable Jock with Hair of Gold whose only bad site is being a Serial Romeo and a Temporary Love Interest who knew she never expected the romance to become serious anyway, and Darcy is the Tall, Dark and Snarky Stalker with a Crush with a terrible case of Small Name, Big Ego, Idle Rich and Card-Carrying Villain. The audience knows Wickham is a Hypocrite Manipulative Bastard who took advantage of her need of companionship in difficult times, and Darcy is a well-meaning Woraholic with a case of No Social Skills, The Proud Elite, Big Brother Instinct and Adorkable.