Created By: Raw Power on June 29, 2010 Last Edited By: Reflextion on June 29, 2010
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Sometimes in Sarcasm Mode, othertimes a Badass Boast. This is when the chances of survival, or the level of opposition, are presented to an individual and they are clearly at a disadvantage. They respond that they wouldn't have it any other way or that they claim it is actually in their favor. For an added bonus, they might boast about giving themselves a handicap just for fun.

Compare Never Tell Me the Odds.


Examples

Anime and Manga
  • As part of the big Flashback in Mahou Sensei Negima!, The Red-Headed Hero is saving the princess; meanwhile, the rest of Ala Rubra has to hold off the forces overseeing the execution, leading to this exchange:
    Head Mook: Do I have the necessary forces? You Fool!. The guards for this event are more numerous than those you see here. There are two entire fleets stationed over a surrounding area of tens of kilometers, not to mention elite troops numbering around three thousand. Tou may be powerful, but even you cannot...
    Jack Rakan: Like I said. Are you seriously telling me you think that's gonna be enough?!

Comic Books
  • As a student, Largo Winch once got in a fight with a bunch of upper-class douchebags, and when asked what he had to say for himself, he admitted to using an unfair advantage like a true coward by outnumbering them: "They were only three."

Film
  • The ending dialogue of 300. "The enemy outnumbers us three-to-one, good odds for any Greek."
  • Star Trek: Generations, which is certainly a common attitude Kirk has since he enjoys bluffing his way out of the unwinnable scenarios.
    Kirk: "I take it the odds are against us and the situation is grim."
    Picard: "You could say that."
    Kirk: "If Spock were here he would call me an illogical, irrational human being for taking on a mission like that... Sounds like fun."
  • The 2009 Star Trek movie:
    Cadet: "There's four of us and one of you."
    Kirk: "Well get some extra guys and then it'll be a fair fight."
  • Return of the King has Gimli do this when it's announced that Gondor's army will attack the Black Gate to provide a distraction for Frodo and Sam.
    Gimli: Certainty of death, small chance of success... What are we waiting for?
  • In Batman Begins, Ras al Ghul motions for two of his henchmen to fight Batman as he makes his getaway. Batman says, "I can't beat two of your pawns?", to which Ras says, "As you wish", and motions for two more henchmen to join the fight.
  • In the Kurt Russell movie Soldier, Russell's superior is having his Soldier in a fight with one more "evolved". The evolved soldier's superior says they're not fair odds and asks the other (general?) to bring 2 more.

Literature
  • The entire House of the Dzur in the Dragaera novels. Tazendra gets most of them on the page, but that's just because she's the most prominent Dzur character.
  • In The Colour of Magic Hrun the Barbarian declares he'll fight both dragonlords at once:
    Liartes: That's pretty uneven odds, isn't it?
    Hrun: Yah. I outnumber you one to two.
  • In The Vicomte de Bragelonne, d'Artagnan proposes to raise his own army of forty men and restore Charles II to the English throne (for profit!). Planchet, who is putting up half the money, protests: "Forty against forty thousand! that is not enough. I know very well that you, M. d'Artagnan, alone, are equal to a thousand men; but where are we to find thirty-nine men equal to you?"

Live-Action TV
  • Done twice in Angel; the second time in the finale.
    Gunn: I'll take the twenty thousand on the left....
  • A Running Gag in the sixties Batman series, as the Dynamic Duo faces hordes of Mooks. In one episode it got inverted: either the Riddler or the Joker said to Batman "There's six of us and only two of you. But we're not afraid!"

Video Games
  • In the ship level of Command & Conquer: Renegade, a prisoner Havoc just freed asks him if he intends to take on the ship's crew alone.
    Havoc: Don't seem fair does it? Maybe I'll shoot with my left hand.
  • Guild Wars: Nightfall has this in the first mission, when you get a good look at the opposing forces:
    Player Character: There sure are a lot of them.
    Koss: No, there are three of us [[hottip:*:(the PC, Kormir, and himself)]], and only two corsair ships. We outnumber them!
  • In Kingdom Hearts 2, Leon and Cloud do this during their Back-to-Back Badasses moment while surrounded and vastly outnumbered by Heartless.
    Leon: Think you can handle this many?
    Cloud: Well, might be tough if one more shows up.
    Leon: Then that'll be the one I take care of.
    Cloud': What, you're fighting, too?
  • From Halo 3:
    Elite: "Sir, the Brute ships outnumber us three-to-one."
    Arbiter: "Then it is a fair fight."

Western Animation
  • Mighty Max has Norman say "Six against one, hardly fair. I'll fight with my eyes closed."
  • In the first episode of Megas XLR, a large number of Glorft surround Megas and Kiva's mech. Coop's response is to agree that the fight isn't fair... and smashes Kiva's mech. "Now it's fair."
  • This is evoked verbatim in an episode of The Simpsons called "Lisa's First Word," where Krusty the Clown vows (on TV) to "spit in every fiftieth burger" and Homer replies, "I like those odds!" Actually a subversion, in that Homer really does think those odds are pretty good.
  • The Penguins of Madagascar, "Roger Dodger":
    Private: So, after Rico trounces the rats inside Roger's body, we switch them back?
    Skipper: Exactly. It's 100% fool-proof.
    Kowalski: More precisely, it's 2.7% fool-proof. There's a 97.3% chance that this will backfire and result in a horrific abomination that will be an affront to the most elemental laws of nature and the universe.
    Skipper: I like those odds.
    • A similar exchange in "Snakehead":
    Kowalski: I have an idea, but I'm not sure how safe it is.
    Skipper: I like it already!
  • In Family Guy: Something Something Something Dark Side: (Quotes not exact)
    C3PO (Quagmire): The odds of successfully navigating through an asteroid field are two to one!
    Han Solo (Peter): Never Tell Me the Odds!...oh, wait, that's actually pretty good. I'll take that.


Community Feedback Replies: 26
  • April 22, 2010
    Chabal2
    Lord Of The Rings has Gimli do this when its announced that Gondor's army will attack the Black Gate to provide a distraction for Frodo and Sam.
  • April 22, 2010
    randomsurfer
    In Family Guy: Something Something Something Dark Side: (Quotes not exact)
    C3PO (Quagmire): The odds of successfully navigating through an asteroid field are two to one!
    Han Solo (Peter): Never Tell Me The Odds!...oh, wait, that's actually pretty good. I'll take that.
  • April 22, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    The entire House of the Dzur in the Dragaera novels. Tazendra gets most of them on the page, but that's just because she's the most prominent Dzur character.
  • April 22, 2010
    Reflextion
    • Guild Wars: Nightfall has this in the first mission, when you get a good look at the opposing forces:
      Player Character: There sure are a lot of them.
      Koss: No, there are three of us, and only two corsair ships. We outnumber them!
  • April 22, 2010
    Doug S. Machina
    The end of Penny Arcade's "Paint The Line", with Gabe playing table tennis against two Russian champions:
    "That's hardly fair. There's only two of them."
  • April 23, 2010
    Medinoc
    • In the ship level of Command And Conquer: Renegade, a prisoner Havoc just freed asks him if he intends to take on the ship's crew alone.
      Havoc: Don't seem fair does it? Maybe I'll shoot with my left hand.
  • April 23, 2010
    HawktureShorts155
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  • April 23, 2010
    HawktureShorts155
    This is evoked verbatim in an episode of The Simpsons called "Lisa's First Word," where Krusty the Clown vows (on TV) to "spit in every fiftieth burger" and Homer replies, "I like those odds!" Actually a subversion, in that Homer really ''does'' think those odds are pretty good.
  • April 23, 2010
    Jonny B
    This might be a version of this trope:

    In Batman Begins, Ras al Ghul motions for two of his henchmen to fight Batman as he makes his getaway. Batman says, "I can't beat two of your pawns?", to which Ras says, "As you wish", and motions for two more henchmen to join the fight.
  • April 24, 2010
    Chabal2
    As a student, Largo Winch once got in a fight with a bunch of upper-class douchebags, and when asked what he had to say for himself, he admitted to using an unfair advantage like a true coward by outnumbering them: "They were only three."
  • April 24, 2010
    ccoa
    In Kingdom Hearts 2, Leon and Cloud do this during their Back To Back Badasses moment while surrounded and vastly outnumbered by Heartless.
    Leon: Think you can handle this many?
    Cloud: Well, might be tough if one more shows up.
    Leon: Then that'll be the one I take care of.
    Cloud: What, you're fighting, too?
  • April 24, 2010
    the grene kni3t
    In The Vicomte de Bragelonne, d'Artagnan proposes to raise his own army of forty men and restore Charles II to the English throne (for profit!). Planchet, who is putting up half the money, protests: "Forty against forty thousand! that is not enough. I know very well that you, M. d'Artagnan, alone, are equal to a thousand men; but where are we to find thirty-nine men equal to you?"
  • April 24, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    Similar to the Batman version, in the Kurt Russell movie Soldier, Russell's superior is having his Soldier in a fight with one more "evolved". The evolved soldier's superior says they're not fair odds and asks the other (general?) to bring 2 more. But I think this is a diverging a bit, because there are so many examples like that that it would fit into an "I want more" trope.
  • April 24, 2010
    repicheep22
    From Halo 3:
    Elite: "Sir, the Brute ships outnumber us three-to-one."
    Arbiter: "Then it is a fair fight."
  • June 25, 2010
    Reflextion
    YKTTW Bump strike one.
  • June 25, 2010
    Fanra
    Lord Of The Rings has Gimli do this when its announced that Gondor's army will attack the Black Gate to provide a distraction for Frodo and Sam.

    Certainty of death, small chance of success... What are we waiting for?
    -- Gimli, The Lord Of The Rings: The Return of the King (movie)
  • June 25, 2010
    henke37
    Talking about odds, do we have the one where the odds aren't fair, for the enemy.
  • June 25, 2010
    Darkmane
    • Done twice in Angel; the second time in the finale.
      Gunn: I'll take the twenty thousand on the left....
  • June 26, 2010
    FalconPain
    In the first episode of Megas XLR, a large number of Glorft surround Megas and Kiva's mech. Coop's response is to agree that the fight isn't fair... and smashes Kiva's mech. "Now it's fair."
  • June 26, 2010
    Unknown Troper
    • The Penguins Of Madagascar, "Roger Dodger":
      Private: So, after Rico trounces the rats inside Roger's body, we switch them back?
      Skipper: Exactly. It's 100% fool-proof.
      Kowalski: More precisely, it's 2.7% fool-proof. There's a 97.3% chance that this will backfire and result in a horrific abomination that will be an affront to the most elemental laws of nature and the universe.
      Skipper: I like those odds.
      • A similar exchange in "Snakehead":
        Kowalski: I have an idea, but I'm not sure how safe it is.
        Skipper: I like it already!

  • June 26, 2010
    Reflextion
    Ok, done Serial Tweaking the updated YKTTW for now. Think this is launchworthy yet?
  • June 26, 2010
    DaibhidC
    • In The Colour Of Magic Hrun the Barbarian declares he'll fight both dragonlords at once:
      Liartes: That's pretty uneven odds, isn't it?
      Hrun: Yah. I outnumber you one to two.
    • A Running Gag in the sixties Batman series, as the Dynamic Duo faces hordes of Mooks. In one episode it got inverted: either the Riddler or the Joker said to Batman "There's six of us and only two of you. But we're not afraid!"
  • June 27, 2010
    the grene kni3t
    The Vicomte de Bragelonne example is from the book. Sorry about that! It looks like Largo Winch is predominantly a Belgian comic series, although this example might have come from one of its other media adaptations...
  • June 28, 2010
    Reflextion
    ^ No problem, thanks :)
  • June 28, 2010
    DorianMode
    As part of the big Flashback in Mahou Sensei Negima, The Red Headed Hero is saving the princess; meanwhile, the rest of Ala Rubra has to hold off the forces overseeing the execution, leading to this exchange:
    Head Mook: Do I have the necessary forces? You Fool. The guards for this event are more numerous than those you see here. There are two entire fleets stationed over a surrounding area of tens of kilometers, not to mention [[Elite Mooks elite troops numbering around three thousand. Tou may be powerful, but even you cannot...
    Jack Rakan: Like I said. Are you seriously telling me you think that's gonna be enough?!
  • June 28, 2010
    KJMackley
    An inversion in the Star Trek Deep Space Nine episode "Way of the Warrior." Up until now Deep Space Nine was a run-down old mining station that no one really paid attention to. When a Klingon fleet approached the station ready to attack Chancellor Gowron told Captain Sisko that there was no way they could hold their own against them. Sisko responded that not only was a fleet of Federation vessels coming to their help but because of the Dominion threat they had spent the last 18 months overhauling the weapons systems and they had 5,000 photon torpedoes ready to use. Gowron turned to General Martok and both did a double-take.
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