Created By: klas on January 21, 2013

Disillusioned Idealist

Why conscience leads to pure evil.

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Disillusioned Idealist

Rousso Was Right is based on that generations do not resist socialisation, that biology does not control or influence individuals to a meaningfull degree, nothing which is nonsocial influence individuals to any meaningfull degree, and that technology and knowledge is comprehensive and simply react to social conventions.

Becouse of this, technophobia, the generation X, the generation Y, and general existence of nerds and aggressive self motivated individuals will cause apocalypse.

If someone is a idealist, then even minor dissonance between these things and Rousso was right must mean, total world destruction. If the world is not what the idealist wants it to be, it could as well be dead to him. Therefore people who do not think like the idealist deserve to be killed. At best, the idealist will callously neglect and walk over the corpses of anyone just to drink a cola, sneese his nose or any other mundane activity. Usually the disillusioned idealist is a woobie, destroyer of worlds, a knights templar and a person who is the complete monster just becouse of his conscience, he still has it.

This is a rationale why good creates evil and why having a conscience can be more evil than being beyond good and evil.

This is the opposite of In Your Nature To Destroy Yourselves.
Community Feedback Replies: 10
  • January 22, 2013
    @klas/OP: The description is very confusing. It needs to be re-written so it can be understood by a normal person.

    Some examples that you think fit the trope would be nice too.
  • January 22, 2013
    This trope seems awfully familiar; I wonder if we already have a similar one...
  • January 22, 2013
    Well, we have Fallen Hero. The description on this is too unclear to tell whether it's something meaningfully different.
  • January 27, 2013
    I suspect the writer is a non-native speaker/writer. I understand what he/she means, but it still needs examples.

    Basically, since the world and people can't live up to an ideal of perfection, the world and people are worthless to the overly idealistic character and it doesn't matter if it is destroyed or people are killed. Because they are not the ideal, they are nothing. Is that it?

    Author, can you think of examples from television, movies, books, etc.? Post at least the title of the work and the person you think has become evil because of impossibly high ideals.

    I can actually think of one: In the book Oryx And Crake, a scientist (whose name I can't remember) creates a virus or bacteria that destroys mankind. The only man left, Snowman, lives with a society of "ideal' people that the scientist has created to replace mankind. They are based on human DNA but are not human.
  • January 28, 2013
    "generation X, the generation Y, and general existence of nerds [...] will cause apocalypse."

    WTH? Apocalypse? This sounds like you would have a BIG problem with generation X, Y and nerds in general. On TV Tropes, of all places.
  • January 29, 2013
    My first posts are usually bad. Just wait, I edit after I eat my Tuesday for breakfast.
  • January 29, 2013
    If I understand correctly, you're talking about a character whose lofty ideals or morals not only don't work in the messy real world, they're positively destructive in practice (because they fail to factor in human fallibility or perversity).

    If so, one of literature's biggest examples would be Dostoyevsky's Prince Myshkin, the protagonist of The Idiot. His misplaced gentleness and his well-meant inability to morally compromise himself lead directly to a murder/suicide, and to the ruination of several other lives.
  • January 29, 2013
    In Wanted (the comic, haven't seen the film so I dunno if it's there or not) the entire book is about a Villain Protagonist and his superiors, basically supervillains who've successfully Taken Over The World. Mr. Rictus, the biggest of the Big Bads, was once a highly devout religious do-gooder, until a Near Death Experience informed him that there was nothing after this life.
  • January 29, 2013
    Isn't this just Idealism is for kids?
  • January 30, 2013
    This sounds like Put Them All Out Of My Misery to me, though can't be sure due to that horrible mess of a description...