Created By: KingZeal on June 2, 2013 Last Edited By: KingZeal on August 26, 2014

Thor the Greek God

When a god-like being in a work is named after a being from an unrelated mythology.

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Suggested Alternate Titles: Thor In Name Only, Misplaced Mythical Moniker, The Greek God Thor.

An In-Universe deity is given the same name as a Real Life deity, with the source myth nowhere to be seen.

For example, let's say we have a Guardian Angel named "Thor"—is this guy the same Thor from Norse Mythology? If so, where are the rest of the Norse pantheon? Are they Angels too?

Related to All Myths Are True, in that it seems certain aspects of various myths are all present in the setting. Where this trope differs, however, is that Anubis and Susanoo know each other, but the rest of their mythologies are missing in part or whole. Also related to Crossover Cosmology, but in this case the only guy named "Apollo" happens to be Tonatiuh's little brother.

Examples:

  • The Persona series often uses various gods and deities from multiple mythologies. Orpheus, Nyx, Izanagi, Amaterasu, Thor, Loki, Lucifer and Samuel, and even Nyarlahotep are all present, although some have more plot importance or have more fleshed-out personalities than others.
    • Taken to a logical extreme in Persona 4, where you have to sit through a plot-mandated lecture on the Japanese legend of Izanami and Izanagi (the latter of which is ''the name of the main character's primary summon!) and after it's revealed that Izanami is the primary villain, the main characters have a brief discussion over whether or not she is actually THE Izanami.
  • In the Marvel Universe, we have a few examples:
    • Eros, named after the Greek god of love, who happens to be one of The Eternals from the moon Titan.
    • Medusa, of The Inhumans, who live in Attilan and are a bioengineered subspecies of humans experimented on by Ancient Astronauts.
  • Both versions of Clash of the Titans misapply the name "Kraken" to a sea monster in a story inspired by Greek Mythology. The Kraken is a Scandinavian creature.
  • In One Piece, in the Level 2 (the Wild Beast Hell) of Impel Down, there's a monstrous chicken-like being called Basilisk. You'd expect it to be named Cockatrice, but either way, the monster doesn't have a Taken for Granite gaze anyways.
  • Devil May Cry 3: Beowulf's description is nearly perfect... for another demon entirely. Four wings? Check. Scorpion tail? Check. Claws and talons? Check. Lion-like face? Check. Beowulf, aside from his light powers, is a nearly perfect depiction of the demon Pazuzu.
  • Dante's Inferno:
    • Geryon, in Greek mythology, was a hideous giant that looked like three men fused into one. In this game, which revolves around a fictional interpretation of The Bible, he is a serpent-like creature with wings and a human face.
    • Also borrowed from Greek Mythology is Cerberus, who's usually a three-headed dog. Here, he's some kind of parasitic worm with human teeth living in the corpse of a giant.
  • Parodied in El Goonish Shive with the Immortals, who tend to name themselves after figures from mythaology, such as "Zeus" or "Pandora". Apparently, fights often break out when two Immortals with the same name happen to meet.
Community Feedback Replies: 24
  • June 2, 2013
    MorningStar1337
    The Marvel universe had both The Mighty Thor and The Incredible Hercules.

    Also the link to Greek Mythology in the Persona wick is missing a t. And while we're on that subject, this trope applies to Shin Megami Tensei as a whole.
  • June 2, 2013
    StarSword
    Difference from Crossover Cosmology?
  • June 2, 2013
    KingZeal
    Fixed.

    Marvel's characters are specifically supposed to be the characters of the source myths, though. They don't count for this trope.

    ^ Crossover Cosmology is about cases where religions/myths with mutually exclusive philosophies/concepts interact. For example, a world where the Abrahamic God exists alongside other deities like Thor, when Abrahamic religions make it VERY clear that God is the ONLY deity in their religion.

    In this trope, "Thor" just happens to be the name of a being with no relation to the source myth.
  • June 2, 2013
    SharleeD
    • Both versions of Clash of the Titans misapply the name "Kraken" to a sea monster in a story inspired by Greek Mythology. The Kraken is a Scandinavian creature.
  • June 2, 2013
    MorganWick
  • June 2, 2013
    KingZeal
    I like the suggestion--I prefer my original one, though. Nonetheless, I'll add yours to the description.
  • June 3, 2013
    StarSword
    How about something more general such as Misplaced Mythical Moniker?
  • June 4, 2013
    maxwellsilver
    I think Thor Is A Popular Name On Olympus might count as a stock phrase, and there are No New Stock Phrases, for whatever reason.
  • June 4, 2013
    StarSword
    ^It's not really a stock phrase (I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it), but it is pretty wordy and could be misunderstood.
  • June 4, 2013
    somerandomdude
    Subtrope of Sadly Mythtaken.
  • June 9, 2013
    Astaroth
    • One of the angelic antagonists in Dogma is named Loki.
  • September 13, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    agreeing with Misplaced Mythical Moniker. nice alliteration.

    also, Persona is Crossover Cosmology, not this. the gods are separated by mythologies there. the marvel examples are not examples too, as they seem consistently on greek mythology.
  • September 13, 2013
    somerandomdude
  • September 14, 2013
    DAN004
    • In One Piece, in the Level 2 (the Wild Beast Hell) of Impel Down, there's a monstrous chicken-like being called Basilisk. You'd expect it to be named Cockatrice, but either way, the monster doesn't have a Taken For Granite gaze anyways.
    • Devil May Cry 3
      • Beowulf's description is nearly perfect... for another demon entirely. Four wings? Check. Scorpion tail? Check. Claws and talons? Check. Lion-like face? Check. Beowulf, aside from his light powers, is a nearly perfect depiction of the demon Pazuzu.
      • Also, Geryon, in Greek mythology, was a hideous giant that looked like three men fused into one. In Dantes Inferno, he is a serpent-like creature with wings and a human face. There's never been a depiction of him as a horse.
  • September 14, 2013
    PapercutChainsaw
    • Parodied in El Goonish Shive with the Immortals, who tend to name themselves after figures from mythology, such as "Zeus" or "Pandora". Apparently, fights often break out when two Immortals with the same name happen to meet.
  • September 14, 2013
    Chabal2
    Also from Dantes Inferno, Cerberus, who's usually a three-headed dog. Here, he's some kind of parasitic worm with human teeth living in the corpse of a giant.
  • September 14, 2013
    DaibhidC
    If Starfox/Eros counts, then what about the other Eternals, who have the names of Greek gods only spelt wrong? Orion of the New Gods probably counts as well.
  • September 14, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    ^^^ not this trope, consistent in the myths. unless i'm the one understanding it wrong in the first place.

    ^^ i think that's pretty questionable, since that's consistent with Dante's version who guards the third gate of hell, not Hades' pet. if that counts then would a Greek Olympian pantheon consisting of Jupiter, Minerva, Mars, Apollo, etc. count? since it's just a different canon version of the same thing.

    ^ i'm not sure if this trope is about artistic leeways on how mythological creatures names are spelt. as they'er not usually consistent anyway.
  • September 14, 2013
    KingZeal
    On the second point: In that case, Dante's Divine Comedy would be an example, because it uses a Greek creature in a story about the Biblical Hell. Roman version of Greek gods doesn't count, however, because there was a conscious effort to blend the two myths together.
  • August 25, 2014
    KingZeal
    Bump.
  • August 25, 2014
    Chabal2
    • Golden Sun has this in spades: The vast majority of summons involve deities from many religions (Greek, Norse, Mayan, Babylonian...), none of which are actually worshipped in-game and some of which have nothing to do with their Real Life counterparts.
      • One of the summons is a mage in Japanese dress who summons a bunch of flying... trap things that paralyze enemies, and for whatever unfathomable reason, is named Ulysses.
      • One of the Mercury summons is Neptune, a giant sperm whale that attacks via Wave Motion Gun breath. In the second game, you fight Poseidon (who looks more like Triton, his son in Greek myth), and it is entirely possible to have what is basically the same god attack itself.
      • The best Venus (earth-elemental) summon in the first game is Judgement, which is basically supposed to be the biblical Apocalypse unleashed on your enemies.
      • Averted in Dark Dawn when it turns out that the Cybele summon, a weird frog-like creature with trees growing out of its head, is in fact Cybele's pet, Cybele appearing like a much more classical Greek goddess.

    See also Sadly Mythtaken.
  • August 25, 2014
    HeavyTony
    Comic Book
    • In the Belgian comic series Cupidon, the title-character is Cupid, an angel who's working from Heaven and who's subordinate to Saint Peter. Sometimes, we can also see ghosts, centaurs or sirens.
  • August 25, 2014
    DAN004
    Does the Final Fantasy Example As A Thesis count here? I think so.
  • August 25, 2014
    KingZeal
    I'll rewrite that when I have more free time.
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