Created By: magic9mushroom on August 10, 2011 Last Edited By: TippyToeZombie on October 4, 2011
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Good Powers Good People

I have good powers, ergo I will be good.

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Every so often, a bad person--be it a villain, a Mook, or just an average Jerkass--gains superpowers. Frequently, these will be powers of darkness and evil (or at least moral ambiguity), reflecting their possessor's personality. However, sometimes these will be powers more often associated with light and good, such as healing and empathy. When a bad character is faced with the acquisition of such good powers, they have two choices:

  1. Stay the way they are, and exploit their new powers as best they can.
  2. Choose to embrace their new-found powers as a chance to start over, turn from their evil ways, and become good people.

If they choose the second option, you have Good Powers Good People.

This is the inverse of Bad Powers, Bad People, where a good person gains bad powers and turns bad.

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  • August 10, 2011
    Nocturna
    People Sit On Chairs. It's expected that people with good powers use them for good; therefore it's only notable when they don't.
  • August 15, 2011
    magic9mushroom
    That's not People Sit On Chairs. People Sit On Chairs would only apply to a power like, I dunno, radiating an aura that destroys evil and creates good.

    It's certainly very prevalent, to the point that an example listing might be pointless, but that doesn't make it chairs. We have The Protagonist, Good Powers Bad People, and Bad Powers Bad People.
  • August 15, 2011
    kjnoren
    Compare also Good People Have Good Sex and Bad Powers Good People.

    Good examples of such powers could be Healing Hands, The Empath. One interesting case would be villains who get a Heel Face Turn once they develop a good power.

    Another way to handle this is to look at the character development. If you have two people who develop powers concurrently, one with bad powers and one with good powers, and then they turn to the The Dark Side or stay in the light, you also have this trope (and Bad Powers Bad People, too).
  • August 15, 2011
    Bisected8
    Given that people having powers in the first place isn't accurate to the real world, super power related tropes can never be PSOC.
  • August 15, 2011
    Earnest
    The argument would probably be that this shouldn't be troped because it's an Omnipresent Trope, and so we tend to be more interested in the inversions (Bad Powers Good People) and the aversions (Good Powers Bad People). Alternately, that because of Personality Powers this is not suprising to see happen.

    However, it would be worth having this at least as a list of "good powers", and as an analysis on how a previously morally indifferent character feels compelled to use positive powers in a positive way because Good Feels Good.

    I'm not sure this ought to have examples, since it's an omnipresent trope and the inversions/aversions already have their own pages.
  • August 15, 2011
    CommanderPanda
    Compare/contrast, in Darker Than Black, the contractor Havoc had a highly destructive power, and her price was to drink baby blood. Donning The Cape was never really an option for her.
  • August 22, 2011
    magic9mushroom
    Yes, Omnipresent Trope / Undead Horse Trope.

    Highly destructive powers with evil connotations go under Bad Powers Bad People or Bad Powers Good People.
  • August 23, 2011
    MasterHand
    If this is considered too prevalent, why isn't Bad Powers Bad People?

    I don't see why this can't be a trope.
  • August 23, 2011
    NoirGrimoir
    It's not so much as not a trope as it is an Omnipresent Trope. The entire reason we Have Good Powers Bad People, is because it subverts this, which is the automatic association.
  • August 23, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^^Bad Powers Bad People is about good people (or at least neutral people) getting bad powers and thereby turning bad. I suppose if enough examples could be found (which I doubt) of bad people getting good powers and thereby turning good, this could be made into a trope. But that's not how it's written; it's written as the Omnipresent Trope "good people have good powers", which doesn't need to have a page because it's what people automatically expect.
  • August 24, 2011
    larynxist
    Yes. Bad Powers Bad People works because it's a trend for bad powers to turn otherwise good people sour; Good Powers Good People would work if there were many examples of villanous people turning good from their powers...but I can't think of a single instance of that.
  • September 2, 2011
    TippyToeZombie
    I'm kind of surprised we don't have this one.
  • September 4, 2011
    Nocturna
    As this is listed as Up For Grabs, I'm grabbing it and seeing if there's actually a trope here.
  • September 4, 2011
    Merlo
    I would support making it into "bad person gets good powers and turns good" as an analogue to Bad Powers Bad People, but I don't know if that has enough examples to trope.
  • September 4, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^Whether or not it has enough examples is exactly what I'm trying to see. If it can gather enough examples, I'll launch it. If not, it's obviously Too Rare To Trope and I'll discard it.
  • September 4, 2011
    nightelf37
    I think examples of this should go to Bad Powers Bad People as an inversion of it.
  • September 4, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^If we even get any examples, they probably will end up there, simply because I don't think we'll get enough to have them on their own page. (If an inversion is common enough, it justifies having its own page.)
  • September 5, 2011
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    A reverse example of this, i.e., person gets good powers because of becoming good, might be The Winter Wizard in Santa Claus Is Comin To Town. He undergoes such a severe Villainous BSOD that he looses not only his powers, but temporarily, even the ability to walk. Later, the Winter Wizard discovers some of his powers - those least associated with evil - remain, and uses them to help Santa.
  • September 6, 2011
    Tifforo
    In certain video games, like Knights Of The Old Republic, certain powers are easier to use based on your alignment. Specifically, certain healing and defensive force powers cost less force energy for light side characters to use, while several offensive powers (like choke and lightning) cost less force energy for dark side characters to use.
  • September 6, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^ That's related, but it's not an example of this trope unless repeated use of those healing and defensive powers causes a formerly dark side character to become a light side character.
  • September 10, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    How about listing what are considered "good" powers?
  • September 10, 2011
    Nocturna
    You mean make an index of the "good" powers? I think that would be better off started as a different YKTTW, rather than redefining this one again.
  • September 10, 2011
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    In The Bible, IIRC, Jesus suggests that it is better to do a good deed, even with poor intentions, than to have good intentions yet do nothing. The implication is that doing good deeds teach those who do them good morals.

    Then again, maybe it was just my sunday school teacher's interpretation... :P
  • September 10, 2011
    DragonQuestZ
    ^^ No, I meant make a list so that we know what qualifies for this trope.
  • September 10, 2011
    Nocturna
    ^The ones I can think of off the top of my head would be healing and empathy (as mentioned in the description), some sort of good aura, blessing abilities...

    I'm really not sure what else, and to be honest, I'm not sure we need it. Most people would be able to identify whether a power is "good" or "bad" when they see it. And I'd also be hesitant to put such a list up simply because it's guaranteed to miss something, and might prevent people from listing legitimate examples because the power isn't on the list. Bad Powers Bad People has no equivalent list and is doing fine.

    All that said, I don't honestly think it matters much, because I don't think this is going to get enough examples to become a page. The revised form has been around for almost a week now, and all we have is one sorta-kinda-but-not-really example.
  • September 26, 2011
    Nocturna
    Last call. If there's no sudden influx of examples, I'm going to discard this in about a week.
  • September 28, 2011
    TippyToeZombie
    I think healing would qualify as a good power, are there any villains with healing powers?
  • October 1, 2011
    FrodoGoofballCoTV
    ^OK, thought of one two. Rather marginal example, but probably close enough for the first one.

    Anime and Manga:
    • In Inu Yasha, Sesshomaru is a medium - dark grey in Black And White And Grey Morality. He has a sword that brings dying people back to life instead of killing them. His father gave him the sword in his will. At first, Sesshomaru deeply resents such a useless gift. Later, he finds a reason to use it, and it steers him toward A Lighter Shade Of Grey, just as his father had planned.

    Webcomics:
  • October 4, 2011
    Nocturna
    Discarding as Too Rare To Trope.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=96che451jmywluk88tdlf2kn&trope=DiscardedYKTTW