Created By: GavsEvans123 on June 27, 2013
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No Godzilla, No Buy

The absence of a particular feature is a dealbreaker.

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When a new work is released and people announce they will check it out purely because of one element of the work, such as the presence of a specific character, we have Just Here for Godzilla. This would be what happens when people announce that they're staying away from a work because a particular element is absent, regardless of whatever else is present in the work. Some examples I came up with would be:
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  • June 27, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    Isn't this pretty much just They Changed It Now It Sucks?
  • June 27, 2013
    SharleeD
    ^ Seems like a specific subtrope of that. I think it's worth exploring; let's see what kinds of examples it gets.
  • June 27, 2013
    StarSword
    EDIT: Nvm.
  • June 27, 2013
    acrobox
    So it's like a YMMV fan reaction They Changed It Now It Sucks but for the absence of characters, rather than elements in gerneal
  • June 27, 2013
    Stratadrake
    The title alone sound like it's duplicating Just Here For Godzilla. Besides, JHFG itself can extend to meaning that without the big G, people will refuse to see it.
  • June 27, 2013
    KingZeal
    Missing The Star Attraction?

    While I think this is a good trope, the examples thus far seem a bit weak. I was expecting it to be something more like, a sequel or adaptation is missing a key character or element and either sales or critical reception fall as a result. Like if they abandon the main cast, or one half of an Official Couple returns without the other.
  • June 28, 2013
    Chabal2
    The Simpsons: Homer is transported into an Alternate Universe where his family is rich and respected, and he doesn't have to work at all, essentially a dream come true. He asks for some donuts, and on learning no one has any idea what a donut is, leaves for his own universe. Just after he leaves, Marge looks out the window at the rain of donuts and says "Oh, it's raining again".
  • June 28, 2013
    Paradisesnake
    ^ Did you even read the description? This is an Audience Reaction trope to changes in fictional works.
  • June 29, 2013
    DracMonster
  • June 29, 2013
    MetaFour
    In-universe example:
    • In Unwinders Tall Comics, Unwinder swears off the After Dark book series after the reveal that his favorite character is a shapeshifter (not a saxophone-playing skeleton, as the earlier books had depicted him).
  • June 29, 2013
    GavsEvans123
    @ King Zeal I hadn't thought of that. Your suggestion would work too. @ Chabal2 The Simpsons example would work as an in-universe example.
  • June 29, 2013
    Chabal2
    While I recognize that this is an Audience Reaction, I think it has as much potential as an in-verse trope, and the correlation of "X didn't show up" to "lowered sales" might be difficult.

    Another in-verse:
    • Misery: the plot revolves around a Loony Fan discovering what the author plans to do to her favorite character, and she does not take it well.
  • June 29, 2013
    arbiter099
    Sounds too close to They Changed It Now It Sucks to me
  • July 1, 2013
    Arivne
    The title No Godzilla No Buy has no chance of being understood unless the reader is already familiar with Just Here For Godzilla, so it's a Bad Snowclone.
  • August 10, 2013
    Noah1
    I think this is a great potential trope, and is versatile enough to be expanded to cover both the "Opposite Trope to Unexpected Character" the OP proposed and the "sequel without an element seen as essential" King Zeal proposed.
  • August 10, 2013
    Madrugada
    Moderator note: I removed the hat this was given. It is nowhere near ready to launch in its present state, and that's what a hat means.

    Please do not give hats unless the write-up, exactly as it stands is ready to launch. A Hat does not mean "I think this is a good idea in general" or "I like this" or "We should have this." It means "I think that this could be put onto the wiki as a page right now, in the condition it's in at this moment."
  • August 31, 2013
    Alucard
    I'll try to differentiate these from They Changed It Now It Sucks.

    In-universe examples
    • Lee Chaolan in Tekken entered the 5th King of Iron Fist tournament for the express purpose of finding Kazuya Mishima and taking revenge on him. He later found out it was Jinpachi running the event, lost interest and went home.
    • Albel Nox in Star Ocean Till The End Of Time decided to join the party on their adventures in space after determining that Elicoor II (his planet) is boring with his rival Duke Vox dead (he was tied to his home via the chance to kill one and only one man). Being the Blood Knight he is, the chance to fight other-dimensional entities was just more exciting than living out his days on a peaceful world.
    • In Dragon Ball Multiverse, Vegeta works out a graph to determine the best outcome of the matches in order for him to fight the Goku of his own dimension, despite the opportunity to battle any number of former enemies (Cell, Bojack, Future Trunks, etc). This happened quite a bit: the Androids of Universe 14 entered for the chance to finally kill Goku, Android 16 of Universe 12 wanted the opportunity to kill at least one of the several Kakarots involved in the tournament, and Dr. Raichi specifically entered to wipe out as many Saiyans as possible (having already done so in his own universe).

    Now for some Audience Reaction examples:

    • The King Of Fighters XII excluding fan-favorite Mai Shiranui rubbed a number of people the wrong way.
    • In general, many fighting game designers fear this trope whenever they have to get rid of a character for story-line purposes, because they know someone out there likely got attached to that character's move-set. It isn't uncommon for these characters to get replaced by a functionally identical fighter, sometimes a Legacy Character. When Kazuya Mishima in Tekken proved too popular on a story-line level, he was revived and his replacement, Jin Kazama, learned to fight differently. Later on, that version of Jin would receive a replacement in Devil Jin, who uses many "classic" attacks Jin had in his Tekken 3 play-style , combined with some supernatural additions.
    • Many fans of the Devil May Cry series refused to take to Dm C Devil May Cry in part because of the new aesthetic, and how they just generally prefer the classic Dante (though that was hardly their only complaint). DmC mostly failed to transfer over the previous installments' fan-base.
      • The older fans also banded together to support anything with classic Dante in it, such as the HD collection and Project X Zone, in an attempt to show Capcom how willing they were to buy something so long as classic Dante is in it.
    • Speaking of Project X Zone, many weren't pleased with the lack of Sonic on the Sega side.
    • Many concert tours will see a good number of tickets refunded should any of the bands cancel their involvement (due to sickness or other personal problems). No matter how obscure the act, someone bought that ticket specifically to see them and them alone.
    • Related to the above-concept, any Revolving Door Band will have this reaction eventually, most likely because one of the members was key in their attachment to the band (Guns N Roses being a good example). It isn't uncommon for "refugees" from other fanbases to join each other as fans of whatever act that members works under next.
      • There's a weird case of this with Queensryche, who eventually fired their lead singer Geoff Tate for being too controlling, and he continued to tour under the Queensryche name. Now there's two Queensryches out there, both playing very different material. Which is these shows you choose to attend depends on which member was your personal Godzilla.
    • A related concept happens whenever a long-time actor leaves a show.
    • Some people unsubcribed from Game Grumps after Jon Tron left the show and Danny joined in his place.
  • August 31, 2013
    Trejo
    • Many people are saying that they won't buy Metal Gear Solid V because of David Hayter's absence.
  • August 31, 2013
    randomsurfer
    Some comic book fans follow a creator rather than a character, picking up or dropping books as the writer or artist switches from project to project.
  • August 31, 2013
    DAN004
    Technically the Marvel Vs Capcom 3 example isn't covered by They Changed It Now It Sucks. :P
  • September 19, 2013
    Alucard
    So, any new name ideas? Missing The Star Attraction gets the point across, but it doesn't really roll off the tongue.
  • September 20, 2013
    DAN004
    Does this count?
    • Another example of someone getting too popular to be omitted: Kyo Kusanagi of King Of Fighters series. In the NESTS Saga (KOF 99-2001) the title of "story hero" is given to K', who is an augmented human with Kyo's DNA added. Kyo himself, though, has little bearing to the story (he's only remotely important in 99). Then the Ash Saga (or Those From The Past Saga) comes and gives Kyo (as well as Iori and Chizuru) a little more focus, but the "hero" is still Ash.

    BTW, if it's the creator rather than a character or element, it's Only The Creator Does It Right.
  • September 20, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    name suggestion: Wont Buy It Without Godzilla or Wont Sell Without Godzilla, sure they sounds like stock phrases and are pretty long, but they're a bit clear at least.
  • March 1, 2014
    Noah1
    For what it's worth, Martian Manhunter did get a DLC release for Injustice Gods Among Us.
  • March 1, 2014
    xanderiskander
    I'd get rid of the references to Godzilla in the titles. They're all bad snowclones, because you're not going to get why it's even related without referring people to Just Here For Godzilla, and it just sounds shoehorned here. Replace the Godzilla references with "X", please.
  • March 1, 2014
    TheHandle
    • As of the end of Series 7, is a fear that the young female fandom Doctor Who attracted with its young, attractive doctors and its romantic plot-lines will disappear with a new, older Doctor played by Peter Capaldi.
  • March 1, 2014
    ShanghaiSlave
  • March 1, 2014
    DAN004
    I was going to say They Didn'tIncludeXNowItSucks. Problem is, X is too broad.
  • January 3, 2015
    DAN004
    Bump to see if this goes anywhere
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