Created By: ThreeferFAQMinorityChickJanuary 30, 2012 Last Edited By: Eric119July 30, 2014

Wooed By Unwitting Relative

Being romantically pursued by an unknowing blood relative.

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I don't know what it is, but when I kiss you, it's like kissing my brother.
Young Lorraine to Marty McFly, Back To The Future

While it can be flattering or pleasing to be the target of romantic attentions from someone else, this is usually not the case when your admirer is actually a blood relative who is ignorant of who you really are in relation to them. This trope involves a character unknowingly falling in love with a parent, offspring, sibling or other relative. It differs from Surprise Incest in that the object of affection is well aware of the consanguinity, and generally the audience is too. This sets up a potentially delicate situation rife with Dramatic Irony if the target is compelled to keep the blood relationship a secret and tactfully ward off the romantic advances.

There are many possible reasons for this situation. Sometimes the two relatives begin the story in a normal family relationship with a significant age gap, and then something happens which interferes both with their age gap and with one's ability to recognize the other: maybe one has travelled back (or foward) in time to when the other was (or will be) of a similar age, or maybe they have undergone a Fountain Of Youth or Overnight Age Up, so that these previously age-separated family members are now interacting as peers, but only one is aware of their familial ties. Alternatively, Applied Phlebotinum may have altered the appearance of one to the point of being unrecognizable, or amnesia or a Separated At Birth scenario may be involved.

The upshot is that one of the two people sees the other person as a potential mate and consequently unknowingly falls for their own relative. Thankfully, this crush generally remains unrequited, but if the two of them do end up having and consummating a relationship, it may lead to My Own Grampa. If Time Travel is involved, then this will be an incestuous Time Travel Romance.

Why, and for how long, the target keeps the familial ties a secret varies between stories, but in Time Travel or Applied Phlebotinum situations it generally has to do with not wanting to change the future or mess the other person up psychologically. The blood relationship may never even have to be revealed, especially if the object of affection can walk out of the other person's life and revert to their original situation.

A variation on this trope trope can also occur when a third party who is likewise ignorant of the two characters' kinship is encouraging them to get together.

The Trope Maker is Back To The Future, in which Marty McFly accidentally travels back 30 years in time, where his teenaged mother falls for him. Compare Surprise Incest and My Own Grandpa.

Examples

Anime And Manga
  • In Galilei Donna, Galileo falls in love with Hozuki (his descendant) who accidentally traveled in the past. Unlike most examples she isn't horrified by this.

Comics
  • One of the strips from 2000 AD involves a Chronocop who got arrested by his partner for attempting to marry his own grandmother, inverting this trope.

Film
  • Back to the Future is the Trope Maker and one of the most famous examples. After Doc invents a time machine and he's testing it out with Marty in 1985, Marty accidentally sends himself back in time to 1955, where he meets his mother as a teenager by way of accidentally displacing his father in the scenario that had previously led to their first meeting. The rest of the film revolves around Marty fixing things so that Lorraine is dissuaded from her crush on him and gets together with George McFly so that Marty and his siblings won't disappear out of existence.
  • One result of Mike O'Donnell getting to be 17 Again is that he has multiple teenage girls chasing after him, including his daughter Maggie.
  • Played with in Meet the Robinsons. Lewis time travels to the future with Wilbur Robinson and likes Wilbur's family so much that he wants Wilbur's parents to adopt him. It then turns out that Wilbur's dad is Lewis, with the mom as his future wife. She then meets him as a young girl around his age at the science fair. Despite the fact that Lewis had spent a good amount of time thinking of Franny as, and hoping she'd agree to become, his mom, he presumably doesn't do anything to fight the possibility of romance between them. Thankfully, they aren't blood related, but still.

Literature
  • Time Enough For Love: Lazarus Long goes back in time to when he's a young boy and ends up having an affair with his mother. It starts when she flirts with him, not knowing that he is her son. He is well aware of this fact, but is perfectly willing to accept and return her attentions in this manner.
  • A short story by Edgar Allan Poe called "The Spectacles" plays this for Black Comedy. The narrator sees a beautiful young woman at the theater and subsequently falls hard for and marries her. Once he puts on the eponymous spectacles, though, it turns out that she is a toothless old woman. It is further revealed that she is his great-great-grandmother. Fortunately, though, the wedding ceremony was a fake one.
  • In "A Clash of Kings" from A Song Of Ice And Fire, Theon Greyjoy meets and falls for his sister Asha, who is disguised as a shipwright's wife, and who flirts with him mischievously simply to find out how time has changed him.
  • In Johnny Tremain, the protagonist has a crush on the beautiful and haughty Lavinia Lyte. Later on she reveals that he is related to the Lytes through his mother, making her his aunt. Johnny realizes that he can't have a crush on his own aunt, and it immediately poofs out of his mind.

Live Action TV
  • In one episode of Dollhouse, a woman's personality was uploaded into a much younger Active's body so she could solve her own murder. As she looks nothing like her real self, her own son tries to make out with her. However, it is subverted when it turns out that the son knows that his mother was imprinted in Echo's body, and still wanted her.
  • In the Doctor Who serial "Father's Day", Rose goes back in time and meets her father, Pete, while he was still alive (and while the original Rose was just a baby). She reacts with horror when he flirts with her.
    Rose: I think he left me.
    Pete: What, a pretty girl like you? If I was going out with you...
    Rose: Stop right there.
    Pete: I was just saying…
    Rose: I know what you're saying, and we're not going there. At no point are we going anywhere near there. You aren't even aware that there exists. I don't even want to think about there, and believe me, neither do you. There for you is like, like the Bermuda Triangle.
    Pete: Blimey, you know how to flatter a bloke.
  • Star Trek DS9 Trials and Tribbleations: Bashir identifies a woman as his great-grandmother by her surname, and wants to get intimate with her to ensure his own birth. Partly played straight in that she seems to be flirting with him, but it's more of an inversion because he is the one who is more clearly eager for them to get it on.
    Bashir: No one ever met my great grandfather. This could be a Predestination Paradox. Come on, Chief, surely you took elementary temporal mechanics at the Academy? I could be destined to fall in love with that woman and become my own great-grandfather.
    O'Brien: You're being ridiculous.
    Bashir: Ridiculous? If I don't meet with her tomorrow I may never be born!... You saw the way she looked at me. You can't just dismiss this.
    O'Brien: I can try.
    Bashir: All right - fine! But I can't wait to get back to Deep Space Nine and see your face when you find out that I never existed!

Western Animation
  • The eponymous character of American Dragon Jake Long time travels to his parents' high school years and accidentally causes a falling out between them. When Jake meets his grandfather in the past, his grandfather is so pleased that his daughter Susan brought home a Chinese boy rather than a white boy like Jonathan that he eagerly suggests that she date Jake rather than Jonathan. Neither are keen on this idea (Susan because she still has feelings for Jonathan and Jake because of the whole Parental Incest thing)
  • The main character of Futurama, Fry, goes back in time to Roswell, New Mexico as it was in 1947. He meets the people he's known his whole life to be his paternal grandparents, Private Enos Fry and his fiancee Mildred. Fry does everything possible to ensure Enos's survival and procreation with Mildred, only to accidentally cause his death. After Enos dies, Mildred becomes attracted to Fry because he reminds her of Enos. Fry correctly deduces that since Enos died without impregnating anyone with his father, then Enos is not his grandfather. He then decides that because Enos is not his grandfather, Mildred is not his grandmother, and starts having sex with her without any qualms, subverting this trope. It turns out to be a double subversion, as Mildred is indeed his grandmother and Fry has conceived his father with her, making himself his own grandfather in the process.
  • In Dragon Ball Z Abridged, Bulma quickly develops a crush on her future son Trunks when he time travels to the past, much to his private horror.

Indices: Incest Is Relative, Time Travel Tropes
Community Feedback Replies: 100
  • January 30, 2012
    KTera
    May develop into My Own Grampa.
  • January 30, 2012
    c0ry
    Needs A Better Title. Unfortunately, one escapes me at the moment.
  • January 30, 2012
    GuyIncog
    • In one episode of Dollhouse, a woman's personality was uploaded into a much younger Active's body so she could solve her own murder. As she looks nothing like her real self, her own son tries to make out with her.
  • January 30, 2012
    Rognik
    Based on the second example, I would think Time Travel Incest would be better, considering in 17 Again, he doesn't actually travel through time but just regresses in age. Besides, "Back to the Future Homage" is kind of wordy. I can't really think of any other examples at the moment without it being My Own Grampa.
  • January 31, 2012
    randomsurfer
    Time Enough For Love: Lazarus Long goes back in time to when he's a young boy and ends up having an affair with his mother.
  • January 31, 2012
    SalFishFin
  • January 31, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    @c0ry: I wrote in that it Needs A Better Title in the introduction itself because I'm well aware that Back to the Future Homage Incest is not particularly descriptive, snappy, or (in the case of readers who are unaware of the Parental Incest aspect of Back to the Future) effective. I don't think Time Travel Incest or Incest By Time Travel are very effective because, as the 17 Again example demonstrates, it doesn't always involve time travel. This also can work if a third party suggests it but neither party is into it (As with American Dragon Jake Long.
  • January 31, 2012
    Rognik
    "Hot for Mommy"? "Jocasta Complex", based on the Oedipus complex, but where the parent is in love with the child instead? This trope also seems to apply to a male time traveller solely, although I suppose it's possible to happen to a girl for her father.
  • January 31, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    How about Accidental Intergenerational Incest? Examples tend to take place between relatives of different generations who then interact with each other on a (relatively) similar-age basis.
  • February 1, 2012
    Glyndwr
    Star Trek DS 9 Trials and Tribbleations Bashir want to **** his grandmother to ensure he gets born.
  • February 1, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    ^ What media does that Star Trek example go under?
  • February 2, 2012
    randomsurfer
    ^Live Action TV. Although it's not 100% certain that the woman is his ancestor - she just has the same surname as his great-grandmother.
    Bashir: No one ever met my great grandfather. This could be a Predestination Paradox. Come on, Chief, surely you took elementary temporal mechanics at the Academy? I could be destined to fall in love with that woman and become my own great-grandfather.
    O'Brien: You're being ridiculous.
    Bashir: Ridiculous? If I don't meet with her tomorrow I may never be born!... You saw the way she looked at me. You can't just dismiss this.
    O'Brien: I can try.
    Bashir: All right - fine! But I can't wait to get back to Deep Space Nine and see your face when you find out that I never existed!
  • February 2, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    ^ I just added that example. I added some stuff for witty humor and my assessment of the situation based on your description. What do you think?
  • February 3, 2012
    drakkensdatter
    The name Back to the Future Homage Incest is kind of long. Maybe call it "Like Kissing My Brother" (from the Back to the Future line "Kissing you feels like I'm kissing my own brother")
  • February 3, 2012
    OmarKarindu
    "Like kissing my brother" doesn't work because it's usually something of a Stock Phrase used to justify Better As Friends sorts of things. The movie was playing off of that.

    I still can't tell from the description if this trope requires time travel, or just a big age gap. Cleaning that up will help a lot with titles and examples.
  • February 3, 2012
    c0ry
    IIRC, in the episode of Dollhouse mentioned above, the son knows that his mother was imprinted in Echo's body, and still wanted her.
  • February 3, 2012
    JonnyB
    ^^ How about "Grandfather Paradox Incest" then?
  • February 3, 2012
    randomsurfer
    This probably doesn't count, but...
    • Buffy The Vampire Slayer: In a Flashback we see the origin of Spike. William, a lower-aristocratic young Englishman, gets turned. He then turns his mother, to whom he was devoted - and still is, even though he's not William any more. (In the Buffy verse, a vampire isn't really the same person as the person who was turned into a vampire, even though they have the same memories as the pre-vamp version of themselves.) After Mom gets turned though, she turns into quite a different creature indeed, and comes on to him and Squicks Vamp!William out. He's forced by circumstances to kill her.
  • February 4, 2012
    Rognik
    I think some form of age-tampering is needed for this to be a trope. The above example is just an Oedipus Complex, where Spike is devoted to his mother. Sadly, the demon that took over her body destroyed her soul and mocked his obvious love for her in more than just a family way. The point is that the character, through becoming an age closer to the relative, becomes attractive to the relative although the hero is still squicked out by it.
  • February 4, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Criteria for this trope:

    1. There are two people who are related to each other and who we know to have a gap between them comprised of at least a decade, often accompanied by a separation by at least one generation.
    2. Something happens to at least one of the two people to tamper with the age gap aspect of it so that the two people end up interacting with each other ostensibly as members of the same age group.
    3. Whatever has happened to change the age gap aspect of their relationship has also made it so that one party doesn't know that they're related, but the other knows perfectly well that they are.
    4. Not knowing that they are related, the ignorant party either develops a crush on the other person or else is encouraged to get involved with them by someone else who is likewise ignorant of their kinship.
  • February 6, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Bump. Anyone think it would be a good idea to have a Playing With page? Anyone got any ideas for better titles?
  • February 6, 2012
    FreeHat
    Mack to the Future? Oedipus in a De Lorean?

  • February 6, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Time Travel Incest: Only works for examples that involve time travel, which is not all of them. Incest By Time Travel: Doesn't work for the same reason that Time Travel Incest doesn't. Accidental Intergenerational Incest: A bit wordy and not very snappy Mack to the Future: What do you mean by "Mack"? Oedipus in a DeLorean: Could work, but not quite, because Marty was more of an Oedipus in reverse.

    For all examples, there is an element of dramatic irony in that one of the two people involved is unaware that they are related and for this reason the other person is considered an acceptable romantic or sexual partner for them either by the ignorant party or one of their friends.
  • February 8, 2012
    JonnyB
    ^^ Mack To The Future, now that's funny.

    ^ Mack: ghetto slang meaning to kiss or make out.
  • February 8, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    @Jonny B: I saw your reply about what it really means to mack and then I found it funny myself. I changed the title to "Mack to the Future" because I think it's the best alternative title that's been put out there so far.
  • February 8, 2012
    X2X
  • February 9, 2012
    nitrokitty
    Mack To The Future is the best trope name ever. Period. End of story. Fourthed.
  • February 9, 2012
    Stratadrake
    Yes it's funny, but don't sacrifice clarity for wittiness. Me, I have never heard the term "mack" used as anything but a proper given name.
  • February 9, 2012
    JonnyB
    It's a rather common term in hip-hop culture as well. But a brief explanation of the term in the description of the trope might be in order, i.e.: "The trope title comes from the ghetto slang term, "to mack", meaning to kiss, make out or have relations with." The description needs a bit of a rewrite anyway; it could use some paragraphing, at the very least.
  • February 9, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    @Jonny B: I paragraphed it and added in an explanation of the term "macking" that I think works very well for where I put it.
  • February 10, 2012
    fulltimeD
    Agree with Stratadrake. Ghetto slang varies place to place. "Mack To The Future" an example of clarity is not, however funny it may be.
  • February 10, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    @fulltimeD: As someone who needed the joke explained to them, I get what you mean about it not being an example of clarity on its own, which is why I inserted an explanation of what "macking" means in the intro.
  • February 10, 2012
    Tiiba
    I came here to say that Mack To The Future is a terrible name. -1ing. I had no idea what this is about.
  • February 10, 2012
    fulltimeD
    Shit, I didn't mean to start a war. Whatever, go with Mack To The Future.
  • February 11, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Anyone got any ideas for a page quote?
  • February 16, 2012
    JonnyB
    ^^ Maybe some redirects might help, also.
  • February 16, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Any ideas for redirects? I think Time Travel Incest would be a good redirect.
  • February 16, 2012
    X2X
    That could work.
  • February 17, 2012
    Tambov333
    "Mack" is very obscure. Needs A Better Name.
  • February 18, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    Maybe Lorraine And Marty or Marty And Lorraine? All these examples involve a pair of people consisting of a person with a crush and their crushee, who happens to be related to their crusher and who is generally the one of the two who is aware of their familial ties.
  • February 19, 2012
    Arivne
    ^ @Threefer FAQ Minority Chick: Our Naming A Trope policy advises against Trope Namer Syndrome, which includes trope names based on a specific character (or characters).

    The reason is that readers won't know what the trope is about unless they're familiar with the character.
  • February 19, 2012
    Sackett
    Against Mack To The Future. I had no idea what it meant.
  • February 19, 2012
    HaggisMcCrablice
    Is this just a time-travel trope? In an episode of Private Practice, a couple who wished to have a child was revealed to be brother and sister, via a sperm donor. They were still willing to go through with it, until the husband revealed that he Knew It All Along that they were related, because he had secretly done a DNA test years ago. Cue tearful gross-out from his sister/wife: "You took my virginity!"
  • February 19, 2012
    JonnyB
    The new title doesn't make it clear it involves time travel, so it now can include most inbred rednecks.
  • February 19, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    "it now can include most inbred rednecks." Lol to this.

    From the examples submitted so far, I'd say that it is mostly a time travel trope, except that the 17 Again example fits this trope very well except for the fact that it involves Applied Phlebotinum instead of time travel. I think a name that doesn't specifically refer to time travel would be best, but if it does come to such a name, then it should be made clear that it still counts even if it involves a certain kind of Applied Phlebotinum instead of time travel.
  • February 20, 2012
    OmarKarindu
  • February 20, 2012
    pawsplay
    Phlebotium Assisted Incest may be one of the worst titles I've ever seen. not only does it embed a piece of jargon in the title, it completely fails to mention time travel. Based on the title, it could be about using magical green rocks to mind control your auntie.

    Of course, the current version of this, My Own Grampa, isn't a great title, either, since it references a song that isn't this trope. But this does already exist, maybe Needs A Better Name.
  • February 21, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    "it completely fails to mention time travel." Even though most of the examples do involve time travel, this can happen with other types of Applied Phlebotinum that have a similar effect of tampering with the age gap, as in 17 Again. "Based on the title, it could be about using magical green rocks to mind control your auntie. " Lol to this. What about the title implies this to you?
  • February 21, 2012
    pawsplay
    17 Again is probably a different trope.
  • February 23, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    ^ I wouldn't say it's so different because it plays out pretty much the same as straight examples such as Back to the Future except that in this case, the daughter doesn't recognize her father because he's been aged down to 17 without any time travel.
  • February 23, 2012
    pawsplay
    But he's still actually her dad. In time travel stories, the person's child hasn't been born yet. This could be troped pretty broad, throwing in Freaky Friday type scenarios as well.
  • February 26, 2012
    HaggisMcCrablice
    I still think it could dovetail with Genetic Sexual Attraction, if we're talking cases of adoption or sperm donation instead of time travel.
  • February 26, 2012
    peccantis
  • February 27, 2012
    KingZeal
    Okay, what is this trope? Because you don't actually need phlebotinum to commit incest.

    If anything, this seems like a case of trying to make a trope that stretches too far where multiple subtropes would do a better job. (Namely, Time Travel Incest, Body Swap Incest, Immortality Incest and Incest By Proxy.)

    If anything, this can and should be an exampleless supertrope.
  • February 27, 2012
    Stratadrake
    Instant Incest Just Add Phlebotinum is too strong, it makes it sound like any phlebotinum may result in incest when that's not the case; in the time-travel version, the phlebotinum has no direct responsibility for the situation. It's also a snowclone of "Instant Awesome Just Add X", which itself was derived from "Everythings Better With X".

    Maybe Phlebotinum Assisted Incest?
  • February 28, 2012
    Frank75
    What on Earth has this to do with phlebotinum???
  • February 28, 2012
    ScanVisor
    The infamous example from Avengers #200 where Ms Marvel falls in love with the baby she has. NO ONE wants to talk about it further than that, other than to say she got better.
  • February 28, 2012
    Lumpenprole
    Is this only where incest occurs because something extraordinary- time travel, age regression, body swapping, etc.- eliminates the age difference or recognition factor between relatives? Or any plot device that causes relatives to inadvertedly have incest?
  • February 28, 2012
    KingZeal
    Reduces the recognition factor, reduces inhibition, eliminates familiarity, evens age difference, or eliminates genetic relation altogether.
  • February 28, 2012
    abk0100
    I feel like I need to mention Yomeiro Choice. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
  • February 28, 2012
    randomsurfer
    I'll chime in to take exception to using the word "incest" in the title, even though I can't think of a better word. As described, and in the former Troper Namer Back To The Future, no incest has to take place. Thinking naughty thoughts about someone you're related to (whether or not you know that you're related) isn't incest. Attempting incest isn't incest. Only incest is incest.

    • Inversion (does this count?): In Andromeda Nietzean Tyr Anasazi occasionally shows interest in Becca Valentine. In the final season it's shown that the founder of the Nietzean race went forward in time and stole Becca's DNA to help found it, so Tyr has been lusting after his great-great-great-great-great grandmother.
  • February 28, 2012
    Rognik
    People keep getting confused by the term "phlebonium", it seems. At the core, this is a time-travelling trope, and should be mentioned in the name like it was at the start. People keep using 17Again as the counterexample, but it's not; he gets hit by localized time travel, where he gets younger but everything stays in the present. You can try to call it something else, but the old-son-meets-young-mom or vice versa idea is what's key. I say leave it at Time Travel Incest and let explanations do the rest.
  • February 28, 2012
    animeg3282
    Hmm...supertrope - Pheboium Incest sub trope= Time Travel Incest, Body Swap Incest, etc.
  • February 29, 2012
    abk0100
  • February 29, 2012
    peccantis
    The Laconic is really really confusing and I daresay misleading.
  • March 2, 2012
    ThreeferFAQMinorityChick
    I've been involved in a theater production for quite a while and just got some time on my hands. I think I'll change it to Time Travel Incest. The Andromeda example is more like Surprise Incest, in my opinion.
  • April 16, 2012
    Tuckerscreator
  • April 16, 2012
    condottiera
    Maybe I'm missing it... What exactly makes this different from My Own Grampa?
  • April 16, 2012
    nman
    ^There's no requirement to be their own ancestor.
  • April 16, 2012
    randomsurfer
    ^^Or even that the relationship be consummated - which is why I reiterate my objection to the use of the word "incest" in the name.
  • April 27, 2013
    Noah1
    On the Family Guy episode "Valentine's Day in Quahog", Stewie goes back in time to The Sixties and kisses another baby girl his age, only to find out that she was his mother, Lois, when she was little. Que the Vomit Indiscretion Shot.
  • May 10, 2013
    Raconteur
    .

  • May 10, 2013
    Surenity
    Web Original
    • In Dragon Ball Z Abridged, Bulma quickly develops a crush on her future son Trunks when he time travels to the past, much to his private horror.
  • May 11, 2013
    WeAreAllKosh
    The current title of this trope (Accidentally Incestuous Crush) doesn't indicate that it must be a crush from a different generation (as versus siblings for instance). I was thinking from just the title that something along the lines of these would fit:

    Western Animation

    • In an episode of American Dad, Roger paints a portrait of a nude Hailey in an art class. The portrait did not show the nude's face, just everything below it. Steve sees it and pays Roger money for it, and it's implied he uses it for Rosie Palm fuel. When Hailey finds out he has the portrait (and Steve finds out she's the subject), they are both mortified and disgusted.
    • When Meg on Family Guy is at a costume party with some teenagers, and they play "spin the bottle", she is paired with a costumed boy and they go into the dark closet to make out. When the closet door is opened, they are both out of their costumes and kissing, and it turns out the boy was her brother Chris, to their mutual horror and embarrassment.

    (Of course in both of these, neither is aware going in, but the title doesn't indicate that either--although the laconic does. But I think there's a good trope in what the title does describe--accidental incest or incestual crushes. The given definition is far narrower than that though.)
  • May 11, 2013
    VincentQuill
    Literature: a song of ice and fire: a clash of kings: Theon Greyjoy falls for his sister Asha until he realises that she's his sister.
  • May 11, 2013
    VincentQuill
    but she knew all along.
  • May 11, 2013
    Olaf_Merchant
    Film example- Star Wars, Luke and Leia.

    EDIT: Oh snap. Must involve time travel. Nevermind, then!
  • June 23, 2014
    Hero_Gal_2347
    Bump.
  • June 23, 2014
    DAN004
    I get the feeling that while "incest by time travel" or "incest by age-changer" is similar, it is hard to pin them down to one blanket title. So I'm suggesting a split.
  • June 23, 2014
    Tuckerscreator
    • In Johnny Tremain, the protagonist has a crush on the beautiful and haughty Lavinia Lyte. Later on she reveals that he is related to the Lytes through his mother, making her his aunt. Johnny realizes that he can't have a crush on his own aunt, and it immediately poofs out of his mind.
  • June 26, 2014
    yisfidri
    I read all the name suggestions above and I'm inclined to second Anachronistic Incest. Or even Accidental Anachronistic Incest?
  • June 26, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    ^ To me it's a bit ambiguous to what the word "anachronistic" is referring in that title. It kind of makes sense in the context of Time Travel, but simply using a title like Time Travel Incest would be so much simpler.
  • June 26, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ But it doesn't always involve time travel...
  • June 26, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    ^ Right, kinda missed that part. Eh... I guess it's the best option then.
  • June 26, 2014
    justanotherrandomlurker
    I think there's a Russian movie called A Sister's Kiss, or something like that, involving two women developing a romantic relationship, and then later learning that they're long-lost sisters.

    And you might want to include a note about how this isn't an unheard of occurence in Real Life: I recall seeing a news story not too long ago where couples were interviewed and they had learned much later into their relationship that they were long-lost siblings, or half-siblings who didn't know each other, or other circumstances like that... and they didn't care, because they still were in love with each other.
  • June 26, 2014
    yisfidri
    Another thought based on one of the OP's original suggested titles: how about something like Crush From Clueless Relative? I feel that this title shifts the focus and POV to the target of affection, and implies through this POV focus that he/she is aware of the situation. It does not cover the criterion of tampering with the age gap between the two though.
  • June 26, 2014
    randomsurfer
    ^^But per the description one of the two participants must be aware of the incestuous nature of the crush. Otherwise Star Wars A New Hope would be the poster child.
  • June 27, 2014
    yisfidri
  • June 27, 2014
    yisfidri
    Does it matter if the title does not cover the idea of "age gap tampering", but simply makes clear that one relative is in love with another, and the latter and not the former is aware of the blood relation?
  • June 27, 2014
    yisfidri
    The OP hasn't posted for over two years so I've added the Up for Grabs tag. I would vote against splitting this one now because there are too few examples.
  • June 27, 2014
    yisfidri
    Playing With page:

    Basic Trope: A character unwittingly develops, or is unwittingly encouraged to pursue, a romantic/sexual attraction to a blood relative who is aware of their consanguinity.
    • Straight: Bob knows he's really Alice's nephew, but she doesn't, and she falls for him.
    • Exaggerated:
      • Alice doesn't take "no" for an answer, and becomes a Stalker With A Crush, unaware of her consanguinity with Bob.
      • Bob is Alice's future self who underwent a sex change and travelled back in time; she, unaware of this, falls for him
    • Downplayed:
      • Bob is Alice's half-cousin once removed.
      • Alice flirts casually with him, but does not seriously fall for him.
    • Justified:
      • Bob has traveled back in time to a point before he was born, so that Alice has no foreknowledge of him.
      • Bob has undergone a Fountain Of Youth that brought him to a similar age to Alice and made him unrecognizable to her.
    • Inverted: Bob hits on Alice in full knowledge of their blood relation. Alice, however, is unaware of how they are related.
    • Subverted:
      • Bob was mistaken about being Alice's nephew...
      • Alice knew about the blood relationship all along.
    • Double Subverted:
      • ...and he is instead her long-lost brother.
      • ...but then she suffered amnesia.
    • Averted:
      • Alice doesn't fall for Bob at all.
      • Alice and Bob are not blood relatives.
    • Enforced: "We want to test Alice to see how much she intuitively picks up about Bob with no foreknowledge that he's related to her."
    • Invoked: Bob knows that Alice went into a disastrous marriage based on an infatuation, so he travels back in time to use his charms to steer her away from the wrong man.
    • Defied: Bob tells Alice of the blood relationship, or breaks her heart to nip any romantic interest in the bud.

  • June 27, 2014
    yisfidri
    Laconic: Being romantically pursued by an unwitting blood relative.
  • June 27, 2014
    DAN004
    ^ Wondering if you wanna grab this. :p
  • June 28, 2014
    yisfidri
    OK.. I'll make a new title and laconic. Also rewriting the description. Opinions welcome of course.

  • June 28, 2014
    DAN004
    I wonde why it is necessary to have one being aware of their relative relation. More often than not, they're unaware of it.
  • June 28, 2014
    yisfidri
    If they are unaware then it's Surprise Incest. This trope is different, adding drama to the situation of the "aware" character, of how they are going to deal tactfully with the situation of being hit on by someone they know to be a relative, and not being able or willing to reveal it for whatever reason.
  • June 28, 2014
    Paradisesnake
    EDIT: Nevermind. Surprise Incest was in the description all along, I just didn't see it.
  • June 28, 2014
    KantonKage
    In Galilei Donna, Galileo falls in love with Hozuki (his descendant) who accidentally traveled in the past. Unlike most examples she isn't horrified by this.
  • July 30, 2014
    jormis29
    This is a bit too close to Surprise Incest
  • July 30, 2014
    tryrar
    Yeah, between My Own Grandpa and Surprise Incest, I think we have this covered

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