Created By: Kersey475 on April 23, 2012

Positive Deconstruction

Deconstruction doesn't have to be dark and cynical

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The main Deconstruction page clearly says that "Note that while deconstructions often end up darker, edgier, sadder and more cynical than the normal version, with the deconstructive process often producing catharsis or seeming satirical by revealing the Fridge Horror inside a given instance of Trope, there is no reason they have to be."

However, in this very wiki, every single Deconstruction trope treats it as a purely dark and cynical way to play with a trope. This is a list of examples of positive Deconstructed tropes that aren't Reconstructions.

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  • April 23, 2012
    Koveras
    The only thing that comes to mind is Kingdom Come, which is a deconstruction of The Dark Age Of Comic Books. However, it is also a reconstruction of the earlier ages, so it doesn't fit the requirements.
  • April 24, 2012
    ScanVisor
    Video Games
  • April 24, 2012
    Damr1990
  • April 24, 2012
    peccantis
    If Deconstruction is "this is why the trope/genre wouldn't work"), Reconstruction is the trope/genre reimagined/restructured in a way to "make it really work".

    Deconstruction takes a trope/genre, dissolves its unrealism (to take an example, "Humongous Mecha piloting teens don't show signs of trauma despite being Child Soldiers") and illustrates the results: "being a mecha pilot is highly traumatic for the teen pilots and has jarring PTSD effects that last for the rest of their life".

    In reconstruction, deconstruction is a part of the creation progress, but an additional step is added: to explain how the genre/trope could conceivably function in its original form. Perhaps "every mecha pilot teen has a personal support squad and goes under extensive psychological preparations before piloting", or "only the physical presence of a teen is required to operate a mecha, so the kids can be under anesthesia while an adult pilots the mecha"...
  • April 24, 2012
    peccantis
    The reason why there only seem to be Darker And Edgier deconstructions is that there are so few tropes/genres that depict things as heavier, sadder or crueler than logic would dictate. Can you name any? I can't.

    Perhaps grim hopeless apocalypse horror would as deconstructed be "actually survival would be easier because X, and factor Y would prevent many people from becoming total Jerk Asses under pressure" but yeah :P

    My bottom line: this isn't needed. If someone manages to find a "darker than IRL" trope/genre, and a deconstruction of that, it's still a deconstruction, and can be listed as such.
  • April 24, 2012
    Damr1990
  • April 24, 2012
    TwinBird
    I don't really see how this is splittable. Dark deconstruction is generally itself a mix of light (hey, people thought of this!) and dark - it's just that the negative aspects hit harder because people are loss averse.
  • April 26, 2012
    TBeholder
    The Same But More Specific without necessity
  • April 26, 2012
    aurora369
    I really can imagine light deconstruction, if the original genre is unrealistically dark by itself. For example, Post Cyberpunk is a light deconstruction of cyberpunk. Also, anything written in a world like Warhammer 40000 with even a little drop of reason and logic is bound to be a light deconstruction. Take the novel series about Ibram Gaunt or Ciaphas Cain. The WH 40 K Commissar as written in the game books is a strawman political/religious tyrant. Ibram and Cain, on the other hand, are real persons who strive to create a better time (the former for his regiment, the latter for himself), and that's what makes their stories more interesting and their characters more likable than the stock cardboard blam-blam commissar.
  • April 26, 2012
    aurora369
    Also, not only entire genres can be deconstructed, but also individual tropes. Take, for example, Always Chaotic Evil. A light deconstruction would be a work where Those Wacky Nazis, Legions Of Hell or other evil-weevil guys behave like people, not like black horned toothy grinning cackling cardboard standies.
  • April 26, 2012
    ShanghaiSlave
    I agree, this seems to just be a case of an unnecessary The Same But More Specific.

    for an example, there's Megamind. it clearly is a deconstruction of The Bad Guy Wins plot (mentioned in the film's page) yet until now hasn't been (or was removed) from the deconstruction trope page simply because it's comedy. thats is just me assuming though.

    but the point is: deconstruction doesn't have to be grim. maybe we should just put something up in the Deconstruction page showing how some deconstructions don't have to be so negative?
  • December 19, 2013
    ShanghaiSlave
    bump. what will this one's fate be?
  • December 19, 2013
    DAN004
    Reconstruction doesn't have to be followed by Deconstruction (especially when dealing with Unbuilt Trope). We also have Deconstructive Parody.
  • December 19, 2013
    aurora369
    Well, I can recall exactly one example of positive deconstruction on our wiki's Playing With pages. It's on the "Playing With" page for Unperson, and points out that it's not always logically possible to both erase records of persons and physically remove all said persons, which results in "lost" victims joining La Resistance.

    Also, I've seen somewhere criticisms for Orwell's 1984, which logically deduce that the totalitarian society described in the novel will not be easily governable and there'll be a lot of freedoms slipping through the cracks. Like, bribing a TV repairman to report your broken Big Brother camera as working. Which will result in a less regulated, more messy and chaotic, but freer and happier life.

    I think positive deconstruction is entirely possible for Grim Dark tropes such as these. If the trope or genre in question is too Grim Dark to be logical, applying logic will make it Lighter And Softer.
  • December 19, 2013
    kjnoren
    First, I think our current write up on Deconstruction is a mess, and doesn't fit with the analysis page. Second, I don't think this proposal will help in fixing the troubles with the misuse of the Deconstruction page.
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