Created By: pcw2727 on May 15, 2012 Last Edited By: pcw2727 on June 24, 2013
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Not Top Level Enough

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The Men in Black meet another high level government operative. The Men in Black claim something is classified. The lesser operative claims to have top level clearance. The Men in Black claim his clearance is "not top level enough"

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F Ilm

Can't remember but I think this actually happens in one of the Men in Black films.

TV

Happens at least once in SG-1

Zig-Zagged on Bones. The Victim of the Week was ex-CIA, and the CIA won't tell Booth & Brennan anything because they don't have high enough clearance. Booth points out that he does have high enough clearance. The CIA man makes Brennan leave the room though, because she doesn't. As she's leaving (and in full view of the CIA man) Booth assures her that he'll fill her in later.
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  • May 16, 2012
    randomsurfer
    Zig Zagged on Bones. The Victim Of The Week was ex-CIA, and the CIA won't tell Booth & Brennan anything because they don't have high enough clearance. Booth points out that he does have high enough clearance. The CIA man makes Brennan leave the room though, because she doesn't. As she's leaving (and in full view of the CIA man) Booth assures her that he'll fill her in later.
  • July 9, 2012
    Koveras
    Is this really splittable from Classified Information?
  • July 9, 2012
    wanderlustwarrior
    I think it's splittable, as it's something I myself was thinking of launching. It just needs to be written much better, and with a better title, and such.

    Film
  • July 9, 2012
    desdendelle
    ^^ That's probably a Sub Trope of Classified Information.
  • July 9, 2012
    Omeganian
    In Seven Days:

    The project itself is so classified the President knows nothing about it. After a couple of encounters with Parker he does know he is part of something and is determined to find out. His clearance is insufficient

    There was an episode where Parker had a run in with some unit, and stated he had a very high clearance level. A soldier from the unit stated he has a level high enough to shoot Parker on the spot.
  • July 9, 2012
    wanderlustwarrior
    I think it's splittable, as it's something I myself was thinking of launching. It just needs to be written much better, and with a better title, and such.

    Film
    • In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, One-Shot The Consultant sees SHIELD Agent Jasper Sitwell realizes this, then lets it slide, since he's talking to a right-hand man of the director, they're both highly ranked, and considering the nature of secrets kept, there are some things better off not known.
    Sitwell: ...And they think we have him?
    Coulson: What's your clearance level?
    Sitwell: Heh, level 6, same as you.
    beat.
    Oh come on, there's a level 7?
    • In Men In Black 3, this and the lack of trust it implies was the major plot point.
    Agent K: It's above your pay grade.
    Agent J: I'm your partner. We have the same pay grade.
  • July 9, 2012
    kjnoren
    Beyond Top Secret?

    Literature:
    • In The Laundry Series, the Laundry is classified under a portion of the British Official Secrets Act that is itself classified.
  • July 9, 2012
    abk0100
    Found this in the examples on the Classified Information page, seems relevant:

    "This is a common misconception of Security Clearances. Just because one has a "Top Secret" security clearance doesn't mean you can read through the files of Area 51 at your leisure. You still need to demonstrate a "Need to Know". When someone talks about having "Code Word Clearance" they mean that the code-word of a particular project or operation is listed in their security file, which means they can access any information filed under that code-word. This is also was anyone talking about information being classified "Above Top-Secret" is ridiculous since you can use the same compartmentalizing system to isolate especially sensitive information."
  • June 22, 2013
    wanderlustwarrior
    That would work in a description for a distinct trope. So does anyone else think this is splittable?
  • June 23, 2013
    StarSword
    We already have Over the Top Secret.
  • June 23, 2013
    Stratadrake
    Yeah, the other YKTTW has this covered.
  • June 24, 2013
    wanderlustwarrior
    Huh... that's a good name...

    Well, this one was started (by someone else) almost a year earlier, but that one has come much farther, so I'll roll this into that and discard this, at some point soon.
  • June 24, 2013
    wanderlustwarrior
    Rolled into that trope, going to discard here.

Three days must pass before this YKTTW is Launchworthy or Discardable

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