Created By: AFPSeptember 7, 2012 Last Edited By: AFPSeptember 9, 2012
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Challenge The Master

An Apprentice completes his training when he is able to best his Master.

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Many training programs have pre-defined criteria for completion, such as completing so many college classes, or completing various tests with certain minimum scores, and so on. But sometimes, the only way to show that the apprentice is ready to leave and go forth into the world is for him to go up against the Old Master and show that he is now capable of besting him.

This could take several forms. It could be a duel to the death, or simply a sparring match. Sometimes it might take the form of When You Snatch The Pebble, or simply a competitive display of craftsmanship. Often serves as the culmination of an extensive Training From Hell.

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Community Feedback Replies: 11
  • September 7, 2012
    WaxingName
    Subtrope of Surpassed The Teacher.
  • September 7, 2012
    AFP
    Actually, Surpassed The Teacher sounds exactly like what I'm thinking of, but maybe this isn't quite the same trope. Maybe Challenge The Master for when the final requirement to completing the training is to take on the Master and prove to him that you have mastered his teachings? I can think of a few examples where the Master still came out on top, but declared the student ready nonetheless.
  • September 7, 2012
    AFP
    Either way, if this isn't that trope, it's closely related.
  • September 8, 2012
    Q
    This might also be a Klingon Promotion, particularly in the duel to the death format. Note the Sith "Rule of Two" example on that page.
  • September 8, 2012
    WaxingName
    ^^^Challenge The Master sounds like a better title if you don't intend this to be a subtrope of Surpassed The Teacher.
  • September 8, 2012
    AFP
    Renamed it.
  • September 9, 2012
    XFllo
    This is an important plotpoint in Krabat.
  • September 9, 2012
    randomsurfer
    Would When You Snatch The Pebble be an example?
  • September 9, 2012
    Damr1990
    • Ikki (the phoenix Saint) from Saint Seiya, since unlike most saints, he was trained by an Evil Mentor, killing him was part one condition he needed to finish his training, the fact that he killed Ikki's Love Interest probably helped him to clear any doubt he might have to do it
  • September 9, 2012
    JonnyB
    ^^ I was going to mention When You Snatch The Pebble myself. I think it would be.
  • September 9, 2012
    AFP
    When You Snatch The Pebble would be a subtrope, I think.

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