Created By: Gannetwhale on January 7, 2012 Last Edited By: Arivne on August 13, 2016
Nuked

Moral Sociopathy

Thinks s/he is doing the right thing, but doesn't care about you.

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Sociopaths are essencially the human version of Always Chaotic Evil in media. Since we consider morality to be good, they are naturally depicted as amoral and selfish.

While it is somewhat Truth in Television, sociopaths are still human, and it's not unnatural that sociopaths have a sense of right and wrong, even though it is completly different from what other people consider that to be. Many diagnosed sociopaths are known to have moral codes, either unique to them or already established.

Naturally, since these types of morality focus more on abstract concepts rather than the people themselves, expect some rather nasty extremism.

This is not to be confused with ‹bermensch. Moral sociopaths can have their own unique moral codes, but they are just as likely to adhere to already established things like Christianity and Communism.


Examples:

Anime and Manga
  • Fullmetal Alchemist. Kimblee is perhaps the most iconic example in anime. While he is an Ax-Crazy Mad Bomber, it is well established that he does have a sense of honour, although a rather twisted one.

Film

Literature

Tabletop Games

Webcomics
  • Kore from Goblins. He does sincerely believe he is doing the right thing by mercilessly slaughtering everyone that has been in contact with "evil races", even children of his own species that were with said "evil races".

Real Life
  • Countless religious extremists. No specific examples are needed, because chances are that you have crossed with someone like this on your life time.

Community Feedback Replies: 13
  • January 7, 2012
    Xandriel
    Some of the worse types of Principles Zealot can be this, since they care more about ideals than about people.

  • January 7, 2012
    Gannetwhale
    Thanks for the suggestion! Indeed, some of the examples here are indeed Principles Zealots
  • January 7, 2012
    Xandriel
    You're welcome. Just wondering, does this cover heroic sociopaths and villains who have standards/virtues but are nonetheless uncaring, or is it just about Knight Templar types?
  • January 7, 2012
    Gannetwhale
    Technically it's mostly about characters who have morals and yet have no empathy. When I came up with it, it was as a villain trope, but I suppose heroic sociopaths could be examples.
  • January 7, 2012
    Xandriel
    Okay, then in that case, here's another example.

    • Jade Curtiss in Tales Of The Abyss is a heroic version. He has no empathy whatsoever, but is troubled by this, and always tries to do the right thing even though his concept of right and wrong can be a little skewed.
  • January 7, 2012
    jate88
  • January 8, 2012
    Gannetwhale
    Well, maybe a subtrope, but this applies to normal morality as well. There's a difference between empathy and morality, and this trope examplifies that: these people care about ideals, but have no empathy for fellow human beings.
  • January 8, 2012
    Hadashi
    "Countless religious extremists."

    We need to shorten this to 'Countless extremists' as there are very many extremists who are not religious (communist regimes, political extremists, etc, etc)
  • January 8, 2012
    Gannetwhale
    Indeed.
  • January 9, 2012
    razorrozar7
    This seems to me like it's Playing With Anti Villain somehow, but I can't quite work out how. Opinions?
  • August 13, 2016
    Morgenthaler
    This looks like an abandoned draft for the trope we already have under Moral Sociopathy. What should be done with this?
  • August 13, 2016
    Arivne
  • August 13, 2016
    DAN004
    ^^ nuke this, of course
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